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Casing experiments...
    #2647797 - 05/06/04 11:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ah shit u guys... i forgot to get pictures, but here goes!....

i took 2, 1 1/2" metal cooking pans CHEAP ONES.. and made 2 casings...

1st. = 80% wet vermiculite, squeezed all water till just droplets came out, spread about 3/4 - 1" on bottom, and broke up the cakes and just plopped them into a layer ontop...

2ns. = same as above, but cased with a top layer of manure/compoust CHEAP like $2.15 for 10 lbs. about 1/4 on top of casing... NOT STERILIZED! ... and it seems to be doing good.. im going to go uncover them right now and peek.. its been 3 days. will post again..


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Re: Casing experiments... [Re: TripleB]
    #2647814 - 05/06/04 11:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

the whole point of casing to to give a hydrating layer with no nutrients so no contams can grow. Your manure casing sould be cased with verm/coir. And your other casing should be cased on top.


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Re: Casing experiments... [Re: TripleB]
    #2647829 - 05/06/04 11:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

excuse me, they are tinfoil pans, like $0.25 a piece... ok, the 2nd one looks great, with rizormorphic strains coming up nicely and evenly EVERYWERE... tomorrow night it will be time to put in fruiting chamber i think :wink: ...

the 1st one is doing ok, all the lumps and balls are slowly starting to pull together making a perfect layer...

now im not the smartest mother fucker, but arent these both doing ok? i mean, am i spose to let the 1st one pull together and make a layer? and on the 2ndone, its almost time to fruit right?... when u see their little "fingers" starting to poke up through the top layer? just wondering if these are optimum times to start fruiting... ty... incase anyone is wondering, im worried about overlay, and other casing problems, AND FOR ONCE GUESS WUT? NO BACTERIA!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO... ill add to this post tomorrow yall.. night!


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Re: Casing experiments... [Re: TripleB]
    #2647837 - 05/06/04 11:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ok im sorry im pretty new, and ive looked at many casing TEKS.. but when u mean casing, do u mean put the wet verm ONTOP OF THE CLUMPS OF BROKEN UP MYCELIUM? or do wut i did with the 1st casing explained above? ...sorry for the stupid ?'s but im not getting any visuals u know? lol


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Re: Casing experiments... [Re: TripleB]
    #2647844 - 05/06/04 11:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

^^GrOwer is absolutely right! No nutrients in casing unless you want a nice overlay! Go with straight verm(sterilized)for first time attempts and you should get good results! Good Luck!

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Re: Casing experiments... [Re: TripleB]
    #2647847 - 05/06/04 11:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

OOOOOOHHHHHHHH SO WUT YUR SAYING IS MY CASINGS ARE UPSIDE DOWN??? .... like when u make a jar, sometimes u put 1/4" of dry verm ONTOP SO NO CONTAMS GET IN RIGHT?... so my casings are upside down??????....


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Re: Casing experiments... [Re: TripleB]
    #2647870 - 05/06/04 11:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

let me make a littler picture of how i understand a casing and u tell me if im bassackwards ok? lol

___ <- Top layer, dirt, cow manure, straw etc..
000 <- mycelium balls, from jars broken apart spread evenly
=== <- vermiculite 70-80% wet

isnt this right?.. if not PLEASE let me know ASAP!!! ty


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Re: Casing experiments... [Re: TripleB]
    #2647889 - 05/06/04 11:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If your manure "casing layer" is completely colonized it is time to add the real casing layer of hydrated sterilized verm to the TOP of the whole thing. Make sure it is only about 1/4 the depth of the entire colonized substrate EX> 1" Substrate=1/4"casing layer.

If you put the second container into the fruiting chamber with the myc just starting to poke through you will definately get contamination since the myc will slow its growth and allow contamination to take over the uncolonized portion of the poo layer you tried to case with. Just throw that one back into the incubator until it is fully colonized and then case with verm.

In both cases you need to give the containers time to start coming through the verm casing layer before you initiate pinning.

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Re: Casing experiments... [Re: TripleB]
    #2647902 - 05/06/04 11:28 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ill take pix later, and ill re-post, i have to go to bed for now, ill be back later.. ty for all the help so far.. i will get this casing thing someday LOL.. its just that theres so many teks u know?.. thanx guys...


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Re: Casing experiments... [Re: TripleB]
    #2647917 - 05/06/04 11:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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just wondering if these are optimum times to start fruiting




It should be evenly poking through -- that's all. Once it's evenly poking through (no big bare spots) it's time to fruit. If there are big mats of white that's overlay.

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