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OfflineMolecularAltruist
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Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm?
    #26477767 - 02/09/20 11:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So I've only had a level 2 experience. I'm in a situation where I have access to enough to get me to level 5. Rather than eating a large dose at once, subsequently putting yourself in a position to succumb the avalanche of anxiety that's to follow and potentially resulting in a bad trip, I was thinking about eating 0.5 grams every 30 minutes. Maybe even 1 gram every hour or any other variation to that. Has anyone tried this "time released" method? It seems like a strategically better way to do it.


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Re: Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm? [Re: MolecularAltruist]
    #26477770 - 02/09/20 11:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Huh?


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Re: Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm? [Re: MolecularAltruist]
    #26477776 - 02/09/20 11:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Embrace the misery, rip that bandaid all at once..


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Re: Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #26477777 - 02/09/20 11:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Huh?




What don't you understand brother? I'm talking about eating small amounts of mushrooms over the span of several hours. Rather than eating a large amount of mushrooms at once. This way you gradually merge with this psychedelic realm of existence.


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Re: Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm? [Re: Amanita86]
    #26477779 - 02/09/20 11:13 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Embrace the misery, rip that bandaid all at once..




I'm a fucking pussy bro. Schizophrenia and bipolar existence within my gene pool. It seems to only affect women though (sister and mother have it). I'm 29 with no symptoms. But it's scary that a high dose might trigger it. Lol


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Re: Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm? [Re: MolecularAltruist]
    #26477785 - 02/09/20 11:21 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You may not want to tempt triggering something you have the ability to avoid..  What pros are you after that outweigh the possible cons?


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Re: Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm? [Re: Amanita86]
    #26477792 - 02/09/20 11:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Agreed, if Schizophrenia is in your gene pool just be weary. Especially with big doses like youre trying to do. I guess this is why the "time release" method you are talking about sounds appealing to you. Also, Schizophrenia is more prominent in men at a younger age. You say you're 29 now so you should be ok mate. I'm 26 and Schizophrenia is in my family too (grandmothers sister) and I've been fine after trips.

Good luck mate.


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Re: Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm? [Re: Amanita86]
    #26477795 - 02/09/20 11:32 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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You may not want to tempt triggering something you have the ability to avoid..  What pros are you after that outweigh the possible cons?




You're probably right. I've done research though and if I haven't showed any signs by my age then I'm pretty much in the clear. Women in my family are genetically predisposed to get it. My sister, mother, and grandma had it. All of the men have always been super stable. It's weird. But yeah, I'm concerned about it, but not enough to not have the experience.

I am super concerned about blasting out of my head on a super high dose though - regardless of mental illness. Losing grip on this reality, the only thing we've ever known since our birth, is pretty intimidating by itself. Gradually doing it, rather than full on sending it, seems like a good strategy to over come this anxiety.

What do I want to gain from this? I want to know what my eyes aren't showing me. It's well known that the cells of the human body have a built in mechanism that constrains our perception (for survival purposes). Psychedelics don't actually do anything other than deactivate this intrinsic mechanism for our perception. Once the constraints are released, it's your brain that's doing that's doing all of the "hallucinating". Anyways, I want to know why people talk of spirits and entities. I'm an existentialist. I want to get to the bottom of all of this shit. It's my sole purpose in life. It's the only thing I can think about during the day.


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Re: Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm? [Re: FuckCancer]
    #26477801 - 02/09/20 11:38 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Agreed, if Schizophrenia is in your gene pool just be weary. Especially with big doses like youre trying to do. I guess this is why the "time release" method you are talking about sounds appealing to you. Also, Schizophrenia is more prominent in men at a younger age. You say you're 29 now so you should be ok mate. I'm 26 and Schizophrenia is in my family too (grandmothers sister) and I've been fine after trips.

Good luck mate.




I agree. Schizophrenia would have showed itself by my age. I'm solid as fuck though. Not even a little depressed. So I think I should be good.

What do you think about my strategy though? Mushrooms have a pretty slow metabolism rate in the body. I should be able to consume enough over time such that all doses are still in affect by the 5th hour. I would imagine by the I would also be able to merge with this other realm I keep hearing of.


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Re: Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm? [Re: MolecularAltruist]
    #26477806 - 02/09/20 11:46 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If you don’t think you’ve taken too much, you haven’t taken enough. - McKenna.

You sure to have a schizo episode and bipolar troubles. Haha. Sorry man.

These drugs were flowing through the psychologists business fresh from Sandoz with tag, “be your patient for six hours.”

To fathom hell or soar angelic, just take a pinch of psychedelic.”- Osmond coining term ‘psychedelic.’

Whatever feels comfortable to you, do that.

I used to go on some psycho mimetic, mimicking psychoses, another early phrase by doctors to the psychedelic experience, used to go through having a complete nervous breakdown through the trip, to then, come down from all only to say, “that guy was a idiot.”  Referring to who I was for last drugged fueled mind. Shit wears off.

Just have fun and follow your intuition, your hearts desire. Let that light glow and overcome all darkness


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Re: Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm? [Re: MolecularAltruist]
    #26477810 - 02/09/20 11:52 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Idk man i would honestly eat the whole dose straight up. you will get a lot more out of it that way.

As WhoMan said above, Go into it with love and the mushie will take you to lovely places :mushroom2:


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Re: Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm? [Re: MolecularAltruist] * 1
    #26477834 - 02/10/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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So I've only had a level 2 experience. I'm in a situation where I have access to enough to get me to level 5. Rather than eating a large dose at once, subsequently putting yourself in a position to succumb the avalanche of anxiety that's to follow and potentially resulting in a bad trip, I was thinking about eating 0.5 grams every 30 minutes. Maybe even 1 gram every hour or any other variation to that. Has anyone tried this "time released" method? It seems like a strategically better way to do it.




You only get about an hour before tolerance starts for what you've already consumed.  So splitting (re-upping) is worthwhile - take half, then when you start tripping, take the other half (if you can remember).  The problem IME is trying to pay attention to taking those extra doses as well.  And once you get well into it you won't know your left from right, never mind that you "planned" to take some more...

And once again - you will greatly diminish the effect of doses taken more than an hour in with tolerance.  So you'll have to figure on escalating the dosages each time as well and end up using far more for the same effect than you would if you just took them all in the beginning.

Besides, come-up anxiety doesn't cause bad trips.  Bad trips are rare and they just sort of happen with no logic.  :shrug:

If you want to skip the anxiety just brew tea and scarf it down at the start.  Once it hits there's no way to be concerned anymore. :solidnod:



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Re: Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26477860 - 02/10/20 01:01 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I never spread the doses out; rather, isn’t it better to get it over and done with ASAP? What people on here say would tend to suggest that if you were to spread say a 5g dose out over a few hours, you wouldn’t get a level 5 trip, rather you would get an extended level 2/3/4 trip......


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Re: Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26477996 - 02/10/20 05:50 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

if You want to split a dose, start with something “sufficient”, how about 1.5g-2g, then about 30-45 mins later, another 1g, then another 45 mins 1g. Etc.

It is easier, in the sense that the first come up is the only one with real anxiety. The second and third “booster” will extend the trip, so be aware of that.

It does work for me, but it is not at all the same as taking the whole dose at once. I don’t think “toe dipping” really gets you to level 5.

For me if I wait until I feel “leveled out”, it doesn’t make the trip too much more intense, just makes it longer. The key for me is to eat the successive doses before the previous dose peaks. I think different people have different biology, so your mileage may vary.

Tea is excellent for this type of dosing.


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Re: Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm? [Re: MolecularAltruist]
    #26478028 - 02/10/20 06:46 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah this sounds interesting,  now have you ever tried mirror scrying on mushrooms? Let me know how it goes because here in Nicaragua I cant get any mushrooms although I'm from California, I was praying last night to my mushroom lady and this mushroom popped up last night overnight what a trip,  I dont know how to upload a pic on this forum I'm new but if you can help me I can send you a pic of the mushroom to see what type it is let me know bro


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Re: Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm? [Re: Alex diaz] * 1
    #26478159 - 02/10/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I think what you're talking about trying will result in something more like this pink line. Taking it all at once leads to something more like the blue line. By taking it all at once, your blood level of psilocybin rises more sharply and hits a higher peak. By spacing it out, you won't hit such a high peak, but you will have a longer experience of the lower level dose.

You might be able to achieve what you're thinking would happen (a higher peak, but achieved by stair-stepping your way up the levels, if I understand you correctly) by eating more mushrooms than you would overall. So maybe like 2g, then another 2, instead of 3 all at once. I think the actual dose would take some fine tuning though to get the effect you wanted.

Note: This image has nothing to do with psychedlics explicitly, so the actual time/x axis numbers are not helpful here. It's a graph I found for a medication, it just works well to get the general gist across.



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Re: Has anyone tried this strategy to enter the other realm? [Re: KD-Grows]
    #26478164 - 02/10/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I tried this once, when I was just being introduced to psychs.
It turns a trip into a high IMO. Takes away from the “magic” in a big way.

Maybe just start with at least 2g, so you break through from the get-go. Then sip on some more lemon tek’d tea as you peak?


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    #26478726 - 02/10/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Remember the Lord spits out the lukewarm. Going in halfed assed can get you nowhere.


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