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The Feminine Principle of the Divine * 2
    #26474413 - 02/07/20 06:19 PM (4 years, 9 days ago)

I wanted to share some things I've put together from various books I've been reading. These books are not necessarily related so I'm going to file this as a synchronicity I stumbled upon regarding the hidden mystery of the feminine principle of the divine.



Carl Jung in Memories, Dreams, and Reflections, speaking on the 'misunderstood' feminine aspects found in Gnostic Christianity


"The motif of the Gnostic Yahweh and Creator-God reappeared in the Freudian myth of the primal father and the gloomy superego deriving from that father....

...(what Freud failed to identify was) that other essential aspect of Gnosticism: the primordial image of the spirit as another, higher god who gave to mankind the krater (mixing vessel), the vessel of spiritual transformation..."

...In the realm of Catholic thought the Mother of God and Bride of Christ has been received into the divine thalamus (bridal chamber) only recently after centuries of hesitancy."

Some excerpts taken from The Gnostic Gospels by Elaine Pagels. These are from the chapter God the Father / God the Mother


Valentinus, the teacher and poet, begins with the premise that God is essentially indescribable. But he suggests that the divine can be imagined as a dyad; consisting, in one part, of the Ineffable, the Depth, the Primal Father; and, in the other part, of Grace, Silence, the Womb and "Mother of the All".

Another gnostic writing, called the Great Announcement, quoted by Hippolytus in his Refution of All Heresies, explains the origin of the universe as follows: From the power of Silence appeared "a great power, the Mind of the Universe, which manages all things, and is a male...the other... a great Intelligence... is female which produces all things.

Rosicrucian Enlightenment Revisited is a compilation of essays commenting on the late Francis Yates work. John Mathews kicks it off with The Grail and the Rose. Here are some excerpts from his contribution:

From the beginning, the Grail was a vessel that contained some of the divinity of God, the blood that symbolized by the wine in the Eucharistic imagery... it is also the womb of Mary, in which the divine seed is transmuted into the body of the infant Christ... In effect, Mary has become a living Grail, a vessel in which the blood and essence of Christ are both contained...

...The Grail stories, it seems, were giving voice to an undercurrent of belief that harked back to pre-Christian times, when devotion to the feminine principal- The Great Goddess- was either as important or more important than that to the God...

...Dindrane, sister to Percival, one of the three knights who achieved the mystery of the Grail... her death is a parable of the feminine mystery- and of the Grail and the Rose.

The Chymical Wedding (17th Century Rosicrucian myth)  is a rosary- a mystical sequence, in this instance, of seven beads in which Christian Rosenkreutz gathers the roses of Lady Venus's wealth.

Charles Williams, a modern Grail poet writes:

Woman's flesh lives the quest of the Grail
in the change from Camelot to Carbonek and from Carbonek to Sarras,
puberty to Carbonek, and the stanching, and Carbonek to death.
Blessed is she who gives herself to the journey.

The late Helen Luke, a brilliant Jungian analyst, says of these lines:

Williams hints at the inner identity of the woman's menstrual blood, which tells her that she has not yet conceived, with the blood of wounded Grail king, bleeding because he cannot bring to life the new consciousness of the Christ, the Self... Taliesin (Williams' poem) speaks of how woman may consciously give birth to the new keeper of the Grail, within herself, and so heal the wound in the psyche.

Wedding of the Red King with the White Queen




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Re: The Feminine Principle of the Divine [Re: 277volt808]
    #26475181 - 02/08/20 09:18 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Excerpt from The Universal Kabbalah by Leonora Leet

Abba (Father) identifies with Chokhmah, and Imma (Mother) identifies with Binah, whose continuous mating is responsible both for the continuous process of creation and the generation of the originally androgynous Ze'ir Anpin (Short face), the son figure identified with the six Sefirot from Chesed to Yesod, from whom the Daughter-Bride Partzuf of the Nukvah (Female), identified with Malkhut, separates in order to mate intermittently with Ze'ir Anpin and so both direct the course of providence and generate the higher souls of the righteous


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Re: The Feminine Principle of the Divine [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #26475859 - 02/08/20 05:31 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

That sounds like a good explanation of the "lightning flash" in Kabbalah, put in the context of active/passive principles.

I believe it is talking about man's relationship with creator. How individual has spun off from universal spirit.

The "lightning flash" moves from the top (Kether), through the spheres, down (Malkuth). When self-realized, Individual Soul is the vessel (Kli) receiving the light emanations (Ohr). I'm taking a shot at interpreting this from a masculine context and am not sure if Kabbalah differentiates the passive, feminine point of view.

In Jungian psychology, The anima/animus would be the commonly unrealized opposite sex within each individual, holding back self-realization, which leads to balance, which- if I may take a stab at- leads to "climbing the ladder" back to universal spirit.


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Re: The Feminine Principle of the Divine [Re: 277volt808]
    #26476386 - 02/09/20 03:28 AM (4 years, 8 days ago)



SOPHIA


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself


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Re: The Feminine Principle of the Divine [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #26477368 - 02/09/20 06:09 PM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Do you think the concept of Tzimtzum accounts for the simultaneous existence of separate realities?


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Re: The Feminine Principle of the Divine [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #26478835 - 02/10/20 03:58 PM (4 years, 6 days ago)

I know you've talked about the Mother-Father Deity before. I thought you'd drop a little something. Now I know what that image is


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