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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Forrester]
#26477261 - 02/09/20 04:59 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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PROPERLY made tea does not seem to affect potency that much at all. Bring water to a boil then remove from heat then add mushrooms to let steep ..... I still think eating is best. But then again I don't get nausea from them but almost all my friends do 
Edit: holy shit that rhymed
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26477264 - 02/09/20 05:00 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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chitin is just structure
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26477268 - 02/09/20 05:04 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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Edited by cannabinated (02/09/20 05:04 PM)
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
#26477330 - 02/09/20 05:51 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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Whether or not it's digestible, and to what degree kind of depends on the person. It was thought to be indigestable for a long time. But it appears most people can digest it to verying levels with the enzyme chitinase. But the amount that it's digested veries alot from person to person. Some people digest almost all of it. Some very little and some not at all. It seems to at least partially depend on the person's diet.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb]
#26477343 - 02/09/20 05:57 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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either way digestive fluid penetrates the cells and enzymes break it up faster than water
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb]
#26477357 - 02/09/20 06:03 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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I dont think any food meterial is broken down immediately by stomach acid. Maybe the psilcybin is dissolved/absorbed rapidly. But the mushroom meterials not gonna break down immediately even if you have high levels of chitinase in your stomach acid. Psilocybin and psilocin are fully soluble in water, leaving behind any cell structure. And since water is absorbed rapidly so will the psilocybin since its dissolved in the water. I don't see how a tea would do anything but increase absorption rate. And in my experience and the experience of everyone I've ever known tea comes on faster and is equally as strong or stronger. I'm not denying your experiences though I just don't really see any actual reason it would be any harder on the digestive system or take longer to absorb dissolved in water.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated] 2
#26477358 - 02/09/20 06:04 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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cannabinated said: either way digestive fluid penetrates the cells and enzymes break it up faster than water
nah fam
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Amanita86]
#26477363 - 02/09/20 06:06 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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i got As in molecular bio fam
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated] 3
#26477365 - 02/09/20 06:08 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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You should have read the asian kids answers while you were copying them fam
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Amanita86]
#26477372 - 02/09/20 06:12 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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azramb said: Whether or not it's digestible, and to what degree kind of depends on the person. It was thought to be indigestable for a long time. But it appears most people can digest it to verying levels with the enzyme chitinase. But the amount that it's digested veries alot from person to person. Some people digest almost all of it. Some very little and some not at all. It seems to at least partially depend on the person's diet.
This is true. Regardless, it's still gonna take some time. Dissolved in water it takes much less time.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Forrester]
#26477384 - 02/09/20 06:17 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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i only do that for the important shit
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
#26477388 - 02/09/20 06:21 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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cannabinated said: i got As in molecular bio fam
Pics or it didn't happen fam lol jk. It's not really about whether or not the stomach acid/enzymes break down the cell walls faster than water. Thats not really the point. The point is the cell structure/actual mushroom material is basically totally insoluble in water. And so if the actives are dissolved in water before hand the cell walls become a non issue. They don't even need to be digested since you just discard all the mushroom material after making tea. It's not a question about the cell walls it's a question of the water solubility and absorption rate of psilocybin itself.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb]
#26477413 - 02/09/20 06:36 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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water doesnt break it down
enzymes do
psilocybin is readily soluble
either way preparing something that is ready to go is dumb
membranes are chock full o sugars and proteins that are digestible
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
#26477430 - 02/09/20 06:42 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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and your digestives get the dr00gz out faster
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
#26477443 - 02/09/20 06:53 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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cannabinated said: water doesnt break it down
enzymes do
Yup! But like I said that's not really the point.
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cannabinated said: psilocybin is readily soluble
Yes soluble in water. And readily absorbed in the gut by itself. But if left in the mushroom and not dissolved in water it'll have to absorb into the blood as the mushroom material is digested. Which will slow the absorption of the psilocybin itself. The whole absorption process will happen faster if the actives aren't locked up in the mushroom material.
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cannabinated said: either way preparing something that is ready to go is dumb
Not if you don't digest the mushroom material well and it makes you sick.
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cannabinated said: membranes are chock full o sugars and proteins that are digestible
I like both sugar and protein lol . It'll still get in your blood faster if it's predissolved in water.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb]
#26477452 - 02/09/20 07:00 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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it depends and its not worth it
especially not when it takes over 5 minutes of work and u still eat the shroom at the end and ur just drawing out the flavor in more material
you chew a dry shroom and your mouth is instantly black with psilocin
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
#26477463 - 02/09/20 07:06 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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I don't eat the shrooms at the end. I throw all the mushroom material away after. Taste is easily masked by other teas/beverages mixed in. Psilocybin/psilocin is a white crystal in its pure form. Any black in your mouth is coming from spores.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
#26477465 - 02/09/20 07:07 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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You gotta be trollin’ son..
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Amanita86]
#26477471 - 02/09/20 07:08 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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I was starting to think this lol.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb]
#26477476 - 02/09/20 07:10 PM (4 years, 8 days ago) |
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yall are noobs obv
i just provided fax n xp
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