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Mr. D
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Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?!
#26477165 - 02/09/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well i just got an idea to dry out the shrooms by dipping it in salt, and it could even prevent another micro organisms from infecting it, has anyone ever tried it, or could it be a bad idea?
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: Mr. D] 1
#26477178 - 02/09/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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dont do that.
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: Mr. D]
#26477180 - 02/09/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah that’s probably it a good idea. A dehydrator is your best bet but air drying will work if you can’t get a dehydrator.
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: entheo_heathen]
#26477186 - 02/09/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
entheo_heathen said: dont do that.
Coud you explain Why? Does it mess with the psilocibin or something like that?
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Edited by Mr. D (02/09/20 04:17 PM)
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: Mr. D]
#26477203 - 02/09/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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You would have some very salty mushrooms that probably would rot sitting in salt.
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: Mr. D] 1
#26477204 - 02/09/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Try it and tell us how it turned out. None of us have tried it because basic logic is telling us it will work for shit. Giving you soggy salty crap as a result
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: bodhisatta]
#26477217 - 02/09/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I mean its common way to preserve food, or at least it was common at some point. You could probably get it to work, but do you really want to eat salty shrooms?
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: iwh678] 3
#26477270 - 02/09/20 05:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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That would be curing not drying... Cubensis Prosciutto
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: Nichrome]
#26477377 - 02/09/20 06:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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well, the logic here is osmosis, probably the same stuff vermiculite does, the water goes from the less concetrate half (shroom) to the most concetrate half (salt). Im gonna see the results, hope it doesn't screw up the last shrooms i got : :
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: Mr. D]
#26477411 - 02/09/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's not osmosis, but yeah salt will draw out moisture. I'd be very surprised if it got anywhere near cracker dry.
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: Mr. D]
#26477431 - 02/09/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mr. D said: hope it doesn't screw up the last shrooms i got : :
post results here dude
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: Mr. D]
#26477679 - 02/09/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you don't have a dehydrator Or anything proper to dry Them, There's got to be A better way than salt. Maybe you got diapers in your house? Put mushrooms in a diaper and put that inside a plastic bag. Or a computer fan...
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: vinnie boombotz]
#26477696 - 02/09/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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If have space heater, putting on top of metal cooking tray than that stray on top space heater will dry mushrooms in few days t o crisp. Space heater was on to room at seventy four degrees. Just need spread out a bit.
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: WhoManBeing]
#26480262 - 02/11/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well, i've eaten the dry ones and it made no effect, i belive that, im no biologist but, the salt may caused apopitosis in most of shroom cells and sucked the psiloscibin within it, the natural air drying or whatever must do a water drying kind, "cells drying kind", the worst part is that i've thrown th whole salt away so i cant test it anymore, but i recorded some spores so i must learn all the gardener stuff, im rly high ri now lol
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: Mr. D]
#26480404 - 02/11/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: mushboy] 2
#26480530 - 02/11/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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So to recap...
OP: Would my awesome idea work?
About 6 other people: Bad idea
OP: Did it anyway
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: Mr. D]
#26480578 - 02/11/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mr. D said: Well, i've eaten the dry ones and it made no effect, i belive that, im no biologist but, the salt may caused apopitosis in most of shroom cells and sucked the psiloscibin within it, the natural air drying or whatever must do a water drying kind, "cells drying kind", the worst part is that i've thrown th whole salt away so i cant test it anymore, but i recorded some spores so i must learn all the gardener stuff, im rly high ri now lol
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: Smartattack]
#26480586 - 02/11/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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What about learning how to flash freeze instead of salt. Like you might get away with q quick pickle. But they would turn to mush and you would have to drink the brine.
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: Mr. D]
#26480635 - 02/11/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Salt isn't used for drying. Salt is used for preservation. Salt will draw out moisture, but it won't get rid of it. Air is used for drying. The idea of using salt on your shrooms is not the best way, or a good way or even a meh way of preserving your shrooms. I'm sorry.
If your problem is that you don't have a dehydrator, don't want to buy a dehydrator, you actually don't need a store bought "dehydrator". Sure, they're convenient & good at their job, but you can throw together a dehydrator using a box and a fan.
Take your fan, find a box that is as wide and high as the fan. You want enough depth to house what you want to dehydrate. Have the fan blowing air through the box, put the shrooms on a raised wire rack or at the least a couple of layers of dry paper towels. Don't worry about contamination. The shrooms already have contaminates on them from you handling them when you took them out of the fruiting chamber. That's normal. The idea is to dry them before the bacteria grows becoming problematic. The fan and box will dry them quickly enough to prevent this. The box and fan will allow you to get them cracker dry.
You can also use the box and fan technique for drying other things like fruits, vegetables and meats. Personally, I'd go buy the cheapest damn dehydrator I can find ($20), but a box and a fan will work.
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Re: Can i dry my mushroons dipping it in salt?! [Re: Mr. D]
#26480670 - 02/11/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think you mean that you would rupture the cell wall because of the salt. This usually happens the other way around, though I'm not too sure about this case. When the ionic force (concentration of salts, to simplify) is higher inside of the cell (e.g. cells standing in distilled water) the cell will start absorbing water to equilibrate the concentrations. In a high excess of water, the cell wall will eventually burst letting out everything inside. When you are putting your mushrooms in salt, the opposite is happening. Water is being drawn out of the cell, causing it to shrink, but it should still retain the integrity of the cell membrane.
About your idea, the only problem with it is that the moisture content inside the mushroom will never be as low as when you dry them with a desiccator. This might work if you only want to retain the taste or even savour the aging of something like sundried tomatoes to use in your stew, but the psilocybin in the mushrooms will degrade ever more rapidly as moisture content increases. True, they probably won't go bad, but they will lose their potency nonetheless. You could dry them in the kitchen oven with the door open and a fan of some sort, but the time you will have to spend to dry them this way is probably worth the 35 usd for a dehydrator.
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