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Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them
#26475702 - 02/08/20 03:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am Newbie and have never tried any Shrooms. Someone gave me some 4 years ago which I just now took out of a glass container. They are dry and it seems that there is no mildew on them. Are they safe, how much should I try? Just eat them as is? I am looking for guidance please. Your sincere suggestions are appreciated.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: the big lebowski] 2
#26475710 - 02/08/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Probably. I'd recommend just making a tea out of them though to be safe. Kill any potential bacterias and what have you.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: the big lebowski] 1
#26475712 - 02/08/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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They might make you sick, but you'll trip for sure. Stored in an environment like that, dried, it's possible that they're still good.
Having said that, mushrooms are food. Would you eat any other dried food that you had sitting in a jar for 4 years? Because that's what you're about to do. Imagine eating a 4 year old can of anything.
However, they might be fine, and you will trip for sure. It's hard to say about their health effects given the long length of time dried and stored in a jar. They might be good, they might not be.
It's a bit disgusting either way, but if I'm being completely honest, if I was in your position... I'd probably at least try them. Maybe start with just a tiny bit and see how you feel.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: nooneman] 2
#26475735 - 02/08/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd make a tea and discard the mush.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Kimble]
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Mr Solo Dolo]
#26475747 - 02/08/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: the big lebowski] 1
#26475757 - 02/08/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tea can be a bit overwhelming because of the increased absorption rate. I would eat them with ramen noodles if you are a first timer and if you start to get anxiety, remember to breathe and remind yourself that God is with you (if he is) and enjoy the creative boost for whatever art you are gifted at
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: gopher]
#26475758 - 02/08/20 04:20 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I dont think you will be sick, but I dount they are still active
Make tea, see if it turns bluish
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb]
#26475770 - 02/08/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thank you. If I made tea with all of those, how much would you recommend to drink? A whole cup? How quickly would I feel an effect?
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Hartford]
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Hartford said: Tea can be a bit overwhelming because of the increased absorption rate. I would eat them with ramen noodles if you are a first timer and if you start to get anxiety, remember to breathe and remind yourself that God is with you (if he is) and enjoy the creative boost for whatever art you are gifted at
It can come on faster and that can make the come up a little more uncomfortable for some. Others might say it's easier though cause the come ups less drawn out. As far as the actual intensity of the peak I don't notice to much difference. Hits just a bit harder and wears off just a bit faster. I mostly think the tea is a safer option cause they're so old. Sipping the tea slowly over 30-60 minutes will even out the come up and everything.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: the big lebowski] 1
#26475788 - 02/08/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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You held those precious for 4 years. Man thats a dedication.  Tea for the win.. and a headset for ayahuasca sound to guide you incase your in a suburban place.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb] 1
#26475790 - 02/08/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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If they are dried and stored properly they should be fine after 4 years. I have some from 2013 that are still good.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: the big lebowski]
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the big lebowski said: Thank you. If I made tea with all of those, how much would you recommend to drink? A whole cup? How quickly would I feel an effect?
Depends on how much all those weigh. I'm an advocate for starting on the low side your first time. I'd make 2-2.5 grams into a tea, possibly 3g and drink half. With tea if you drink it fast you could feel it in like 5-15 minutes and be peaking in like 30-45 potentially if you dont have much or anything in your stomach. A bit longer if youve ate recently. To be safe in any case id wait an hour or so, see how you feel then drink the other half, or even jusy half of the other half if you want more. Sip it slowley if you're worried about coming up to fast. But there could be some amount of potency lost since they've been sitting for so long. Kind of depends on if the jar was air tight or not so 2.5g might not do as much if not. I'd still start with half of a 2.5g tea and go from there.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb] 1
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Personally I would just boil all and drink all.. just preference..
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Kimble]
#26475830 - 02/08/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Kimble said: I'd make a tea and discard the mush.
100%. Those phat dealer cubez look pretty gnarly. I would definitely recommend rendezvousing with a pot on the stove-top and some simmer water. I like the fruity teas myself, that's sweet tooth.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: the big lebowski] 2
#26476069 - 02/08/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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They don't look good.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: tyrannicalrex] 1
#26476072 - 02/08/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, they definitely don't look too good...
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: nooneman]
#26476080 - 02/08/20 08:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah they definitely look old. I still think with a tea he'll be fine.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb]
#26476117 - 02/08/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I personally don't recommend. That brownish color is some kind of rot I think. A friend of mine had some really old ones with that brownish look, I told him to trash them, getting sick isn't worth it.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: tyrannicalrex] 2
#26476151 - 02/08/20 09:15 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have personally eaten raw mushrooms with splotches on them..... I think you will be ok
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26476206 - 02/08/20 10:08 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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If it's any consolation, i chipped away at a batch ov cubes for 8 years. They retained at least 75% potency for the first 7 years, and during the 8th year they dropped off to nearly completely inactive despite the same storage conditions. I'm not sure why the sudden degradation, but that's what happened. They did look better than those, but i'm not going to postulate upon the condition ov your batch based on the pic. It's up to you whether to eat or make a tea out ov them.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: lavod]
#26476242 - 02/08/20 10:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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During my highest shroom trip I kinda freaked out a little cause the dried mushies were a year+ old. So I wondered if they were still good.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: the big lebowski] 2
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Did you eat the shrooms yet?
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OP is probably dead from Ancient Shroomz
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Tripsurfer] 2
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Maybe he crushed 'em up and sniffed em
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Forrester] 2
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1) Extract spores from Ancient Shrooms 2) Agar work 3) Agar-to-grain 4) lots of fresh mushrooms & spores
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Asante]
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I think I read somewhere that you can grow dried mushroom flesh on agar. Or maybe a liquid culture. Whatever it was you can resurrect dead, dried shrooms back to life. It had to be agar because it would be dirty.
I’m fairly sure I read that one time..
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Amanita86]
#26476685 - 02/09/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: I think I read somewhere that you can grow dried mushroom flesh on agar. Or maybe a liquid culture. Whatever it was you can resurrect dead, dried shrooms back to life. It had to be agar because it would be dirty.
I’m fairly sure I read that one time..
Our mycelial overlord is like that.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Asante] 1
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tea is dumb yall are all noobs
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Amanita86 said: I think I read somewhere that you can grow dried mushroom flesh on agar. Or maybe a liquid culture. Whatever it was you can resurrect dead, dried shrooms back to life. It had to be agar because it would be dirty.
I’m fairly sure I read that one time..
That was the subject of the very first thread I started here almost 16 years ago. 
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
#26476854 - 02/09/20 11:46 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Whats wrong with tea?
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26476873 - 02/09/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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its dilute and takes longer to process
it seems to be harsher on the digestive system as well
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
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Really I kinda like it
Better than eating for sure. I just couldnt do that anymore.
But I must admit that tea as well started to get to me. Just a bit more gross each time. My body going like: "dude, this shit again??"
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26476980 - 02/09/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: But I must admit that tea as well started to get to me. Just a bit more gross each time. My body going like: "dude, this shit again??"
That's when you start mixing it with other teas/beverages. You don't even notice your drinking mushroom tea.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
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cannabinated said: its dilute and takes longer to process
it seems to be harsher on the digestive system as well
Really? I never liked tea because the come up was faster and the trip a lot shorter, but it's the only way I never felt the urge to puke from tripping.
My favorite way was ground in capsules. It did have the uncomfortablly fast come up, but the peak was so strong I was in heavenly bliss. That's when it went well for me anyways. Shrooms and me started to not really get a long. They're too mind fucky for me.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Shroomslip]
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its just more variables between the drug and u
digestive enzymes will break the mushrooms down immediately and it will get in your blood faster
mushrooms do act on intestinal serotonin receptors, so perhaps in a dilute concentration it will be easier on your stomach. But when i mix them with food or drink for ingestion, thats usually when i have issues.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
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cannabinated said: digestive enzymes will break the mushrooms down immediately and it will get in your blood faster
No. Having the drug already dissolved in solution (water) is going to be much faster than your stomach having to secrete enzymes and attempt to break down mushroom material first.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Forrester]
#26477211 - 02/09/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
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unless were talking wet shrooms...
shrooms dissolve immediately
putting them in water only serves to slow absorption
making tea for 4 hours is deff going to slow it down too
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
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Chitin is mostly indigestible by humans, mushrooms do not dissolve immediately by any means. Extracting anything into water does not make it slow absorption. And who the hell makes tea for 4 hours?!?!
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Forrester]
#26477261 - 02/09/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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PROPERLY made tea does not seem to affect potency that much at all. Bring water to a boil then remove from heat then add mushrooms to let steep ..... I still think eating is best. But then again I don't get nausea from them but almost all my friends do 
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: spirit_shadow]
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chitin is just structure
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: spirit_shadow]
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Edited by cannabinated (02/09/20 05:04 PM)
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
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Whether or not it's digestible, and to what degree kind of depends on the person. It was thought to be indigestable for a long time. But it appears most people can digest it to verying levels with the enzyme chitinase. But the amount that it's digested veries alot from person to person. Some people digest almost all of it. Some very little and some not at all. It seems to at least partially depend on the person's diet.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb]
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either way digestive fluid penetrates the cells and enzymes break it up faster than water
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb]
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I dont think any food meterial is broken down immediately by stomach acid. Maybe the psilcybin is dissolved/absorbed rapidly. But the mushroom meterials not gonna break down immediately even if you have high levels of chitinase in your stomach acid. Psilocybin and psilocin are fully soluble in water, leaving behind any cell structure. And since water is absorbed rapidly so will the psilocybin since its dissolved in the water. I don't see how a tea would do anything but increase absorption rate. And in my experience and the experience of everyone I've ever known tea comes on faster and is equally as strong or stronger. I'm not denying your experiences though I just don't really see any actual reason it would be any harder on the digestive system or take longer to absorb dissolved in water.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated] 2
#26477358 - 02/09/20 06:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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cannabinated said: either way digestive fluid penetrates the cells and enzymes break it up faster than water
nah fam
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Amanita86]
#26477363 - 02/09/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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i got As in molecular bio fam
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated] 3
#26477365 - 02/09/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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You should have read the asian kids answers while you were copying them fam
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Amanita86]
#26477372 - 02/09/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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azramb said: Whether or not it's digestible, and to what degree kind of depends on the person. It was thought to be indigestable for a long time. But it appears most people can digest it to verying levels with the enzyme chitinase. But the amount that it's digested veries alot from person to person. Some people digest almost all of it. Some very little and some not at all. It seems to at least partially depend on the person's diet.
This is true. Regardless, it's still gonna take some time. Dissolved in water it takes much less time.
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Amanita86 said: You should have read the asian kids answers while you were copying them fam
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Forrester]
#26477384 - 02/09/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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i only do that for the important shit
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
#26477388 - 02/09/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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cannabinated said: i got As in molecular bio fam
Pics or it didn't happen fam lol jk. It's not really about whether or not the stomach acid/enzymes break down the cell walls faster than water. Thats not really the point. The point is the cell structure/actual mushroom material is basically totally insoluble in water. And so if the actives are dissolved in water before hand the cell walls become a non issue. They don't even need to be digested since you just discard all the mushroom material after making tea. It's not a question about the cell walls it's a question of the water solubility and absorption rate of psilocybin itself.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb]
#26477413 - 02/09/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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water doesnt break it down
enzymes do
psilocybin is readily soluble
either way preparing something that is ready to go is dumb
membranes are chock full o sugars and proteins that are digestible
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
#26477430 - 02/09/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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and your digestives get the dr00gz out faster
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
#26477443 - 02/09/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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cannabinated said: water doesnt break it down
enzymes do
Yup! But like I said that's not really the point.
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cannabinated said: psilocybin is readily soluble
Yes soluble in water. And readily absorbed in the gut by itself. But if left in the mushroom and not dissolved in water it'll have to absorb into the blood as the mushroom material is digested. Which will slow the absorption of the psilocybin itself. The whole absorption process will happen faster if the actives aren't locked up in the mushroom material.
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cannabinated said: either way preparing something that is ready to go is dumb
Not if you don't digest the mushroom material well and it makes you sick.
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cannabinated said: membranes are chock full o sugars and proteins that are digestible
I like both sugar and protein lol . It'll still get in your blood faster if it's predissolved in water.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb]
#26477452 - 02/09/20 07:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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it depends and its not worth it
especially not when it takes over 5 minutes of work and u still eat the shroom at the end and ur just drawing out the flavor in more material
you chew a dry shroom and your mouth is instantly black with psilocin
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
#26477463 - 02/09/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't eat the shrooms at the end. I throw all the mushroom material away after. Taste is easily masked by other teas/beverages mixed in. Psilocybin/psilocin is a white crystal in its pure form. Any black in your mouth is coming from spores.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
#26477465 - 02/09/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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You gotta be trollin’ son..
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Amanita86]
#26477471 - 02/09/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was starting to think this lol.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb]
#26477476 - 02/09/20 07:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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yall are noobs obv
i just provided fax n xp
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
#26477479 - 02/09/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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i never ate a black spored mushroom
except panaeolus bisporus
eat a white stem and look at ur mouth in the mirror
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
#26477488 - 02/09/20 07:16 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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c me w/ da hands
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
#26477491 - 02/09/20 07:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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cannabinated said: yall are noobs obv
i just provided fax n xp
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cannabinated said: i never ate a black spored mushroom
except panaeolus bisporus
eat a white stem and look at ur mouth in the mirror
I've never actually looked in the mirror after chewing up shrooms so if true maybe not from spores but definitely not from psilocybin... if true lol  
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb]
#26477497 - 02/09/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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damn u dont listen for shit
obv have no ground to stand on
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated]
#26477499 - 02/09/20 07:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I know you don't I'm just fucking around lol .
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb]
#26477500 - 02/09/20 07:23 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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cannabinated said: tea is dumb yall are all noobs
This
If you have make a tea, don't heat it, just let the shrooms sit in water overnight. The active chemicals in shrooms will degrade fairly quickly above 100f
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Jailbird420]
#26477508 - 02/09/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just don't do it in fully boiling water and it's a okay! Let it cool down a bit before throwing your tea bag in. I've never noticed a problem with potency personally.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: azramb]
#26477512 - 02/09/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Water boils @ 212
Most tap water is above 100f
Heating your shroom tea is a fool's game
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Jailbird420]
#26477526 - 02/09/20 07:38 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I’m not sure I agree with that.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Amanita86]
#26477534 - 02/09/20 07:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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yah put em on ignore like ur boi
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Jailbird420]
#26477549 - 02/09/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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The melting point of psilocin and psilocybin is well above 200°C. Now that's not to say that it couldn't degrade at lower temps but melting point can be a decent indicator of what temperature a substance will degrade in certain circumstances. I believe degradation comes more from oxidation than heat by itself. And that the oxidation happens more rapidly at higher temperatures specifically when exposed to air. There is a study on psilocybin extractions-ill try to find the link-that showed when dried at 140°F there was almost 90% loss in psilocin. Not psilocybin but psilocin specifically. In the same study an extraction was done on mushrooms that were dried at lower temps in a solvent at 50°C-122°F-with almost 100% retention of both psilocybin and psilocin. So it appears that the problem is more to do with oxidation in the presence of air than the heat itself. And that heat just increases oxidation when the psilocin is exposed to air. There doesn't seem to be much degradation at high temps when the psilocin is in a liquid and not exposed to air. I've never really noticed much if any potency loss even with fully boiling water. I just like to let it cool slightly to be safe.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: Jailbird420]
#26477562 - 02/09/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dood tea is where it's at and works great. Yall are crazy. Boil, dont steep, the shrooms for 5 min and get all those actives out into the water. Strain it and slam it. Dont even need much water, just like 100ml is fine.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: the big lebowski]
#26477701 - 02/09/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would def eat them if I were OP. And definitely all of them.
I am a big proponent of not easing into tripping on mushrooms. Still think 3.5 minimum for first time. Idk why but I think it's best just to get flung into it.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: PLURAL]
#26477824 - 02/10/20 12:09 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Agreed 100%. First time is the best time.
First time I tried shrooms was 8.25 grams all at once in a lemon tek. My goal was Level 5 - I got there.
No question, eat em all.
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: metalfaith] 2
#26477833 - 02/10/20 12:17 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: cannabinated] 2
#26478289 - 02/10/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, grinding up cracker dry mushrooms into powder (I use a coffee bean grinder) and them mixing with melted/warm (not hot) chocolate, then fridge until ready to eat. You can freeze those shroomocolates as well, kept some for a year before. Best way IMHE. Tea seems to lose moe potency for me. Ground/powdered mushrooms completely eliminated the nausea I used to get. 
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Re: Newbie that has 4 year old Shrooms and doesn't know what to do with them [Re: tyrannicalrex] 1
#26478480 - 02/10/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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If Im doing grows I dont mind potential potency loss. So many excess shroom I dont care my methods arent the most efficient
Just grind some up put in a tea baggy and steep for a couple minutes until the water turns blueish. Never had any issues tripping the fuck out.
Can always just redose anyway
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