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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: BrendanFlock]
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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: redgreenvines]
#26499464 - 02/23/20 06:31 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Who are you, rgv?
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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: Pinkerton]
#26499542 - 02/23/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nobody special, please do not obsess.
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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: dbreeze]
#26500758 - 02/24/20 12:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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dbreeze said: so the double slit experiment says things like light can be particle or wave depending on how you look. whenn they set up the experiment to see particle thats what they got same for wave (if i am correct this says the universe itself is alive and knows we are looking.) So as we keep looking out to space i think reality will just make more and more space so we never see the end. The bigger the telescope the bigger the universe. Thats what i think it just keeps creating what is just out of reach. So this would mean technicly right now there is a edge we just cant see it. But as we are able to look deeper space would get deeper and we would never find the end. or is everything already made and truely infinite already what do you guys think??
We create form from a single infinite potential consciousness which takes up all the space were anything can be done that I can think of except to hallucinate, cause or experience absolute death or split the universe into two or more truly separate things..
If someone were to keep going in one direction it would create more and more from the single infinite potential consciousness which takes up all space and never reach a limit.
Edited by Painkiller (12/25/21 03:26 AM)
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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: Painkiller] 1
#26500779 - 02/24/20 01:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It wouldnt be a straight line then.
This is a fundamental part of quantum physics. They invented the infinite curve calculation to compensate for it.
Only way your fractal dream could happen is if at the end of the universe you then teleported to the opposite side of it. But even then thats teleporting thats not a straight line.
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Painkiller
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Oldnameforgotten said: It wouldnt be a straight line then.
This is a fundamental part of quantum physics. They invented the infinite curve calculation to compensate for it.
Only way your fractal dream could happen is if at the end of the universe you then teleported to the opposite side of it. But even then thats teleporting thats not a straight line.
I hear what you're saying. I thought about it and edited my post.
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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: Painkiller] 1
#26500789 - 02/24/20 01:27 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm watching this.... Pretty relevant.....
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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: dbreeze] 1
#26500793 - 02/24/20 01:35 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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What if the universe is all there is and there is no edge.......
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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: Painkiller] 1
#26500827 - 02/24/20 02:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Painkiller said: What if the universe is all there is and there is no edge.......
WE'RE TRAPPED!!!!! FUCK!!!! HELP US!!!!
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Painkiller
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My understanding is the universe is all life and that there is nothing outside of it. It's all there is.
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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: Painkiller] 1
#26502712 - 02/25/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Painkiller said: My understanding is the universe is all life and that there is nothing outside of it. It's all there is.
One of my "experiences" was about how important life is and not because you can die but because life is all there is!
My belief is everything is alive in some way there are just differnt scales and dimensions (vibrations). what i think its going on is the void is infinite the void is the blank space that contains everything. Now there may be a limit to our matter universe meaning matter stops at a certain point to give way to the void...but the farther we look the more stuff it will create....creation and creator arent seperate and creation is not done its still going on. the deeper we look the more we will find. Now what if we get to the point where we see where all the matter ends and there is just the void. If you could travel across that void would you run into another bubble of a matter universe?
I was listening to sadhguru and he said something like as we solve problems creation will make more like we thought a atom was the smallest thing now we discover quantum therory and things are smaller maybe when we figure that out creation will create something smaller. so we can never solve EVERYTHING because its still being created
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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: dbreeze]
#26503065 - 02/25/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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"There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened." --Douglas Adams
the word point seems to suggest that it's the culmination of something
to reach a climax, there must be development
to have development there must be a process of experience
and that process needs an observer for it to take place.
what came first, the observer or the point?
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The universe is a place where no matter where you look there has to be a rational explanation. This is why we live in the goldilocks zone. Why everything works perfectly. Science is like the worlds most primordial pathological lie. Every time we dig a new explanation comes up. We find a new particle to make sense of our experience. There's always going to be that next higgs boson. The size of the universe will be found to be exactly what it needs to be to have an observer in the first place.
Nothing at all really exists. A manifestation of pure imagination creates all that is real.
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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26503902 - 02/25/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: ...Nothing at all really exists. A manifestation of pure imagination creates all that is real.
I like the ring of that except for the overconfident use of the word "pure"
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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: redgreenvines] 1
#26503974 - 02/25/20 08:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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The world precedes the imagination. Not sure I’m in line with all the hype the imagination gets.
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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: Yellow Pants]
#26503981 - 02/25/20 08:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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The only thing that exists is experience itself. Not the past
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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#26503984 - 02/25/20 08:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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There's no experiencer experiencing the experience there is only the experience. Experience is the culmination of the "entire universe"
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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26503998 - 02/25/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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All is one.
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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: Yellow Pants]
#26504285 - 02/26/20 01:52 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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All is not one .
All is forever and thought son, All is naught and like the wisdom, of
listening, and the wind.
Forever is not one. It is forever, son.
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Re: how would a infinite universe work? [Re: Yellow Pants]
#26504403 - 02/26/20 06:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: There's no experiencer experiencing the experience there is only the experience. Experience is the culmination of the "entire universe"
yup
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Yellow Pants said: The world precedes the imagination. Not sure I’m in line with all the hype the imagination gets.
pretty much
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