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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26473996 - 02/07/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Also compatible with 5 pasty plates



I like the tiger drop idea so much so i'll keep using them. But i don't put paper towel on the lids like the original thread suggest. Since they are inside the large container the micropore won't get wet. Also less condensation since the large container acts like an insulator.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26474094 - 02/07/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Fuck yeah! Still waiting mine to show up... gotta go check my box this afternoon.
You guys are going to have it all figured out by the time they get here 😂


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: staytrippy420]
    #26474128 - 02/07/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I just got 8 from Amazon two days ago. I have 40 coming today from a plastic company. Very excited. Why do they have to be in another container?
Can't wrap in foil?
Or put into grain bag?


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26474225 - 02/07/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If you wrap them in foil they will come out with lots of condensation/pooling. Then you will need to unscrew the lid a little bit and wait around 2 weeks until it all evaporates away. If you don't want to use a large container at least use a mason jar, i was able to fit 6 holy grail containers inside a quart mason jar (if you use the plastic mason jar lid). That way you will get at least 3 petri dishes free of condensation out of 6.

Believe me you don't want to use foil every time you want to sterilize these holy grail petris and it won't work anyways. Personally i HATE foil, the less i need to use it the better. Hate having to recycle foil for later use, you would lose a shit ton of time wrapping them and unwrapping them and for nothing, really.

This guy did it well with mason jars :thumbup: :

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I made 24 holy grail plates today in a 16-qt Presto. I mixed 500 mL of LME agar, so each plate got about 20 mL. I used two layers of jar rings to get the trivet right up to water level, then stacked the plates in four columns of six plates each. Placed an upside down quart jar over each stack (the mouth of the jar was just short of touching the trivet).


After venting, I PC'd at 15 PSI for 30 minutes. I let the PC get back down to 0 PSI on its own, then let it sit for a full hour (even though I suspect this smaller PC cools down relatively fast compared to the big AA Mr. Alien uses). After one hour I took the plates out of the PC, placed them on my counter in the same stacks and put the jars back over the stacks.

Because I understand the idea is to insulate and cool slowly, I covered the jars with a bunch of layers of kitchen towels--like 12 or so. I let that pile sit until the jars were at about room temperature, about six hours.


When I uncovered them, they had turned out like this: the top two in each stack were hella condensated.


The third plate down in each stack was a bit better.


But the bottom three in each stack were pretty much perfect--no condensation to speak of!


So a full half of these plates were ready to use immediately--much better than I had expected things to turn out.

I cracked the lid of the condensated ones just a slight turn, and placed them all in a shoebox with the lid on (probably not necessary?) I'll let them sit a couple weeks and hope to see them clear up!

Thanks Mr. Alien, I'm excited about these!




Now, if you want to do it like a pro, you would need to use a large container like the nutcracker container in the OP or something similar, something that you could fit/stack up 10 holy grail petris inside, of course vertically. I'm able to get 9 out of 10 holy grail containers free of condensation with the large container method. Of course you need a PC big enough to be able to fit a 11.25 inches tall large container inside as well.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Mr. Alien] * 2
    #26475215 - 02/08/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So my mail got here today. Here's the 8 from Amazon on left. The ones on the right (40pc) are from a plastic company. The visibility on them isn't as clear but it's still pretty good. I can always open in the flow.


I'm waiting for some different agar. I'm not going to keep using telephone brand. Been having issues.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26475320 - 02/08/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Wait what the fuck happen to the visibility? That's fucking bullshit return it and complain

EDIT: Ohh is from another website other than amazon? What is the other website name? I still would return them. The visibility is what it makes these things great.Maybe the ones you bought from the plastic company are not even pp5.

EDIT 2: You made me open up all my amazon packages they are all transparent.



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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26475469 - 02/08/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

They are all pp5 bottoms and lids. They are still pretty clear just not as much as other. They was way cheaper. Plus I could buy in bulk. They have clearer lids but they are dome lids. I might end up getting some but I think these will be ok. Do wish they was a little more clear but I'll keep them.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26475472 - 02/08/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Wait what the fuck happen to the visibility? That's fucking bullshit return it and complain

EDIT: Ohh is from another website other than amazon? What is the other website name? I still would return them. The visibility is what it makes these things great.Maybe the ones you bought from the plastic company are not even pp5.

EDIT 2: You made me open up all my amazon packages they are all transparent.





So you bought them from that link in OP? The 8pk ones.? Did they cut a deal when u got a bunch? I only got one order of those.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26475488 - 02/08/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yes i bought them through Amazon Mexico, five 8-packs at a time. In Amazon US they are limiting the amount of packs you can buy isn't it? I guess because of the high demand. In Amazon Mexico you can buy in bulk order without a problem.

No deal, i bought them at 12$ an 8-pack.

Can you share me the website where you bought them? So i can put a warning in the OP.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26475543 - 02/08/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Berlin packaging


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26475755 - 02/08/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Compare the sturdiness and attachment and let us know. We’re they cheaper?


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: eatyualive]
    #26477102 - 02/09/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)



Piling up the ones that are ready :thumbup: just a few that got some condensation when using the mason jar method. In my case they dry up in a week or so.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26477922 - 02/10/20 03:09 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Hopefully mine are here tomorrow.. They are taking for everrrrr. :rolleyes:


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: staytrippy420]
    #26478129 - 02/10/20 08:43 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)



I told the amazon seller to never change the material or the container design in any form (or face the punishment of the free market :lol:), told them that there was some similar container in Berlin packaging with worst visibility. They kind of responded me that they will ensure that it will always be the same product. Probably Berlin packaging product comes from another factory.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #26478307 - 02/10/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I looked up company and its like beebee something. It's a bead company and beekeeping stuff.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: Hobbit GDF]
    #26479082 - 02/10/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

ideas on finding a few tins or similar for a 75x sterilizer? I only will have about 80 at most in rotation but might as well get them all done in one fell swoop in one sterilizer.

where did you get those tall pp containers from Alien?

edit: and what do you think of these? too airtight? or the bamboo an issue somehow? www.amazon.com/Lawei-Glass-Storage-Sealed-Bamboo/dp/B07T367LYJ



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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: tombosley8]
    #26479258 - 02/10/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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ideas on finding a few tins or similar for a 75x sterilizer? I only will have about 80 at most in rotation but might as well get them all done in one fell swoop in one sterilizer.

where did you get those tall pp containers from Alien?

edit: and what do you think of these? too airtight? or the bamboo an issue somehow? www.amazon.com/Lawei-Glass-Storage-Sealed-Bamboo/dp/B07T367LYJ






https://www.dx.com/p/square-household-pp-food-storage-box-with-lid-clear-storage-container-with-scales-for-cereal-2602050/1070480.html

The XXL ones. They are sent from china as well.

I don't know about the bamboo ones, they seem airtight. Also they are not 11.25" tall like the OP, you could only fit 8 hg petris in there.

I haven't test the pp chinese large containers, since i barely had time. But they have the correct height and they are not that air tight, the lid is a bit loose. I'll update the OP if the Chinese large containers turn out to be good.


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: eatyualive]
    #26479555 - 02/11/20 04:48 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I also found these pp containers but idk if they would be that great for insulating them like glass or metal would. I'm hoping they will fit in it and 10 at a time. Should the insulating container's lid be on for sterilization or just have the container covering the plates like you've been doing with quart jars?
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B075F8R77M/


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Re: Alien's Holy Grail No pour Agar unmodified containers. [Re: tombosley8]
    #26479816 - 02/11/20 09:16 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I also found these pp containers but idk if they would be that great for insulating them like glass or metal would. I'm hoping they will fit in it and 10 at a time. Should the insulating container's lid be on for sterilization or just have the container covering the plates like you've been doing with quart jars?
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B075F8R77M/




Well i always used a plastic lid with the mason jars method, but the guy in the mason jar example in the OP didn't use a lid!

Yeah , no one has tried pp plastic as a insulator yet. But i will test this soon. About that PP container! Didn't convince me because the top of the container is wide and goes narrow at the bottom. I already bought a similar container and the hg petris couldn't fit in the bottom because of that. Maybe that one works idk?

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