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1st bulk advice needed w/ pics
    #26475164 - 02/08/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Hello friends,

My grains have fully colonized in one of those aluminum baking bans. I transferred to a Tub with more height so my little critters don't get smashed. I cased with verm + Coir and run a 12/12 light cycle.

can you all take a look at the progress and let me know what you think? I am running 2 varieties... the 2nd known for slow pinning. This is my first time deviating from the good OL' PF tek so its hard for me to gauge correct directions.

What do you guys think? Thank you for you advice!



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Re: 1st bulk advice needed w/ pics [Re: ET.PHONE.HOME]
    #26476101 - 02/08/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It looks pretty good.

I'd go for a monotub with micropore tape in the future.

Looks like you cased only one.

I'm excited. Grains rock. What's your substrate?


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Re: 1st bulk advice needed w/ pics [Re: filthyknees]
    #26476220 - 02/08/20 10:29 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Just a little information: casing isnt necessary for cubensis nor does it provide any noticeable benefit whatsoever.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12176054/page/1

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12234036#12234036

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RogerRabbit said:
A properly maintained bulk substrate will not benefit from casing layer, if you're growing cubensis.  Should you decide to use one anyway, pasteurize, not sterilize.
RR




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Re: 1st bulk advice needed w/ pics [Re: EntheoGod]
    #26476284 - 02/08/20 11:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the letting me know it looks ok filthyknees... I am excited too! I am using rye and actually cased both but the GT is winning the race over PE it seems. I have some Micropore tape actually... think I should switch over right now or for next time?

And EntheoGod, thanks for that info... next time I'll skip the casing layer for sure.


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Re: 1st bulk advice needed w/ pics [Re: ET.PHONE.HOME]
    #26476308 - 02/09/20 12:36 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Hold up casing layers aren’t necessary but I can tell you OP your grow is in fact benefitting from it. Casing layers are extremely beneficial to beginners because you don’t have to be so tedious about you surface conditions. Hell, a casing layer is beneficial for anyone who wants to set and forget their tub in pretty much any environment given the correct temp.

OP, judging surface conditions can be hard on your first bulk grow. If you’ve got you tub design and everything down so that you have ideal surface conditions great, but a top layer of coir provides much more peace of mind and a solid microclimate.

Pasteurize your coir if your clean technique isn’t on point. FrankHorrigan has a great pasteurization tek.

A lot of information from RR is outdated. Not wrong, but our wonderful TC’s have found some improved methods.


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Re: 1st bulk advice needed w/ pics [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26476400 - 02/09/20 04:03 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Hold up casing layers aren’t necessary but I can tell you OP your grow is in fact benefitting from it. Casing layers are extremely beneficial to beginners because you don’t have to be so tedious about you surface conditions. Hell, a casing layer is beneficial for anyone who wants to set and forget their tub in pretty much any environment given the correct temp.

OP, judging surface conditions can be hard on your first bulk grow. If you’ve got you tub design and everything down so that you have ideal surface conditions great, but a top layer of coir provides much more peace of mind and a solid microclimate.

Pasteurize your coir if your clean technique isn’t on point. FrankHorrigan has a great pasteurization tek.

A lot of information from RR is outdated. Not wrong, but our wonderful TC’s have found some improved methods.




If I may ask question...

I just finished my 1st flush in a shoebox and was going to pour water into the tub around the side of the substrate.

It is ok to pour water on top and then around the substrate correct?

And after that should I put on another thin layer casing or coir/verm to give me more moisture for substrate during second flush?


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Re: 1st bulk advice needed w/ pics [Re: zenarrow]
    #26476475 - 02/09/20 06:26 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You don't have to pasturize coir even if your not 'clean', I spawn in a moldy ass garage that's open air.

A lot of people including pasty will say casings help, cron will say 'it helps the cultivator'

Dunking is fine, no additional casing needed. I choose to do a heavy mist after first flush over dunk but that's my preference.

I wouldn't think you need to switch in the mp tape out right now, just in the future that's what I'd reccomend. I like the ghetto rigging but a traditional monotub will do good for ya.


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Re: 1st bulk advice needed w/ pics [Re: filthyknees]
    #26476655 - 02/09/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Exactly filthy, that’s what I was trying to get at. A top layer of coir or even a true casing can make even a truly novice growing come out with some impressive flushes, just because it takes a bit of guess work out. Mother Nature does what she wants lol


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Re: 1st bulk advice needed w/ pics [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26476787 - 02/09/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I'm gonna take a while guess and predict a pin war between GT and PE in the sub vagina you built. Your gonna have alot of side pins between the two substrate cakes.please continue to post updates cause it's gonna look awesome!


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Re: 1st bulk advice needed w/ pics [Re: Sockadin]
    #26476867 - 02/09/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the feed back friends. Next time I will for sure do the tub right. This is a small test on my cleanliness technique before I go all out with a big tub- Plus I had this old small tub laying around already.
Also, would it be ok to place these bricks in a large correctly done tub? I was worried the excess negative space would throw off the conditions or something, but I know little in regards to bulk.

Can anyone give a rough estimate about pinning ETA on the GT based on the pics? Im wondering how much longer it should take to start seeing some arrivals.I will for sure keep posting pics...its looking about the same today so no need to update just yet.


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Re: 1st bulk advice needed w/ pics [Re: ET.PHONE.HOME]
    #26476913 - 02/09/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I would probably treat them line cakes in a SGFC which is what it looks like you kinda built. Put them on foil on top of perilite and let them fruit.


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