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Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different.
#26473966 - 02/07/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nothing may be certain thus the atheist believes in lack of belief. He/she too is a believer. When you get whizzy you realize an atheist knows God exist unknowingly - if God exists. Keep in mind, it's all belief at this point in existence. The atheist believe in God and the atheist doesn't believe in God.
May I make the party a lot more fun by telling you, I am God. redgreenvines and orgy can confirm.
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: Pinkerton]
#26473971 - 02/07/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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It works in the same way for fundies. If God doesn't exist, they unknowingly know this. Like I said, it's all belief at this point in existence. Thus fundies too believe in God and disbelieve in God.
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: Pinkerton]
#26473984 - 02/07/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Of course the atheist/fundie doesn't understand he/she believes/disbelieves contrary to their original position.
Edited by Pinkerton (02/07/20 02:10 PM)
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: Pinkerton]
#26474031 - 02/07/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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You omit folks who never heard of 'god'. You omit millions who have many 'gods'. You omit native peoples who believe in spirits, demons, & ghosts. As well as some other categories it doesn't take too much imagination to include.
You just assume because you had a thought, that seemed novel to yourself, that it must really be new, meaningful & useful. That is what I call a belief.
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: laughingdog]
#26474113 - 02/07/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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You omit folks who never heard of 'god'. You omit millions who have many 'gods'. You omit native peoples who believe in spirits, demons, & ghosts. As well as some other categories it doesn't take too much imagination to include.
What's your point?
You just assume because you had a thought, that seemed novel to yourself, that it must really be new, meaningful & useful. That is what I call a belief.
You believe you know what my feelings and intention are. What is the metric for this belief of yours? How much do you believe in knowing my feelings and intention and how much do you disbelieve in knowing my feelings and intention?
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: Pinkerton]
#26475065 - 02/08/20 07:40 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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no you are not god, but you are not not god either.
this is a thread like all others you start, striving for merit at others' expense.
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: Pinkerton]
#26475104 - 02/08/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Atheists are not certain. They (I) just know there is no rational reason to believe. I'm an atheist because I believe in science, and don't think all the rules are supposed to change for my benefit if I'm about to die. If you believe in science, certainty never enters into the equation, but incredibly large probabilities do.
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: Brian Jones]
#26475120 - 02/08/20 08:27 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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the spirit of scientific investigation is the most holy spirit, and that transcends any struggle with the idea of god.
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: Pinkerton]
#26475392 - 02/08/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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What's your point?
You would have to think, to get it! Which is what you once again evidently don't want to do. ( Apparently you would rather believe than think.) You expect me to explain my point to you, apparently because you don't want to make the effort to think for yourself. Because the points are so simple, I will do so. It is of course pointless, to do so; but simply because it is amusing I will do so. However I needn't do so, as you just proved one of the main points, inadvertently. One can't make this stuff up.
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: redgreenvines]
#26482200 - 02/12/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said: no you are not god, but you are not not god either.
this is a thread like all others you start, striving for merit at others' expense.
Orgy says I'm Unique Ill God. Not sure how much you really know, rgv.
Nah, I'm pointing out hypocrisy.
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: Brian Jones]
#26482225 - 02/12/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: Atheists are not certain. They (I) just know there is no rational reason to believe. I'm an atheist because I believe in science, and don't think all the rules are supposed to change for my benefit if I'm about to die. If you believe in science, certainty never enters into the equation, but incredibly large probabilities do.
If God exists atheists knows God exists unknowingly, thus they believe without understanding it and don't believe in God at this point in existence. 
There may be an error in my reasoning.
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: Pinkerton]
#26482269 - 02/12/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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What's with all the jesus freaks trying to convince atheists that they actually do already believe in god. You guys are worse than the fucking church folk I knew growing up.
Let's turn it around for a moment...you already know there is no god. That's why you need to spend so much time convincing everyone else that there is one. Kind of like the closeted gay minister with a wife and kids that rails against homosexuality because deep down he really despises himself and thinks that taking it out on "the gays" will make things right in the world
Sharing opinions is one thing, but telling people what they do or should believe is fuckin stupid and rude
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: TheStallionMang]
#26482285 - 02/12/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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What's with all the jesus freaks trying to convince atheists that they actually do already believe in god. You guys are worse than the fucking church folk I knew growing up.
Let's turn it around for a moment...you already know there is no god. That's why you need to spend so much time convincing everyone else that there is one. Kind of like the closeted gay minister with a wife and kids that rails against homosexuality because deep down he really despises himself and thinks that taking it out on "the gays" will make things right in the world
Sharing opinions is one thing, but telling people what they do or should believe is fuckin stupid and rude
I really don't know what I am but Christian probably not.
Try again.
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: Pinkerton]
#26482375 - 02/12/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: laughingdog]
#26490630 - 02/17/20 06:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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What's your point?
You would have to think, to get it! Which is what you once again evidently don't want to do. ( Apparently you would rather believe than think.) You expect me to explain my point to you, apparently because you don't want to make the effort to think for yourself. Because the points are so simple, I will do so. It is of course pointless, to do so; but simply because it is amusing I will do so. However I needn't do so, as you just proved one of the main points, inadvertently. One can't make this stuff up.
I only came in here because of the hilarious topic title.
Now, because of this excellent response, I am going to follow, just to find out exactly which of you is trolling the other.
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: Pinkerton]
#26494024 - 02/19/20 08:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cults will be cults...the weak pray to others then them selfs..the strong pray to thy self..amen.
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: Pinkerton]
#26495124 - 02/20/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't believe in belief. Reality doesn't care what anyone believes. Those who believe in god and other nonsense are simply fucking idiots not deserving of any consideration. They are a lower form of human life holding back evolution. Fuck them and their children. May they die young and reproduce less for the sake of true Homo SAPIENS!
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: Markas]
#26527074 - 03/10/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Markas said: I don't believe in belief.
You don't really believe that do you?
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: TheStallionMang] 1
#26530711 - 03/12/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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TheStallionMang said:

What's with all the jesus freaks trying to convince atheists that they actually do already believe in god. You guys are worse than the fucking church folk I knew growing up.
Let's turn it around for a moment...you already know there is no god. That's why you need to spend so much time convincing everyone else that there is one. Kind of like the closeted gay minister with a wife and kids that rails against homosexuality because deep down he really despises himself and thinks that taking it out on "the gays" will make things right in the world
Sharing opinions is one thing, but telling people what they do or should believe is fuckin stupid and rude
IMHO, that's the most correct reply of them all.
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I'm an atheist because I believe in science
Science doesn't need a retinue or followers. Science is the perception, through an epistemological process, of reality itself. Either you accept it or you don't and live in denial. There's nothing faith related to it. Although some may argue about the influence of subjective options when you create the hypothesis in the scientific method, there's no "believe" in science. Only knowledge.
With that being said, the most legitimate way to understand the subject, IMHO, is directly related to the understanding of both concepts: Faith and Knowledge. For that purpose there is this well known chart:

For example, I consider myself an agnostic theist - more exactly a deist instead of a theist - because I do feel I do believe in something but my thought process can not validate it. Still, such thought exists and I give it the meaning I think they deserve. Nevertheless, anything religious that I believe in, is inconsequential and just has an intrinsic personal value for myself. Not reality and not the others.
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Re: Yet another thread about atheism and God. But this time it's different. [Re: MAIA]
#26530776 - 03/12/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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MAIA said: IMHO, that's the most correct reply of them all.
Thank you, that's very nice of you to say
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