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Incedibly disappointed
    #26473389 - 02/07/20 07:43 AM (4 years, 9 days ago)

I'm not sure you can be more of a beginner than me. I've never done any type of drugs, don't smoke, and it is a very rare occasion for us to even have alcohol in the house. We're not teetotalers... this type of thing just isn't a big part of our lives.

Unsurprisingly, I have no idea where to obtain quality [hallucinogenic] mushrooms so I felt lucky that a friend of a friend was able to get 1/2 oz for me. He had no idea what type they were other than "they will make you see crazy shit". Sigh.

I was diagnosed with treatment-resistant depression two years ago and I'm to the point where I'll try just about anything to alleviate the constant pain. I've taken almost every medication you can think of. I've even undergone ECT treatments and had 6 rounds of Ketamine (in a clinical setting).

I recently finished reading, "How to Change Your Mind" by Michael Pollan. I also read as many of his cited studies as I could track down. I feel like I have a decent understanding of psilocybin and how it might help me. I am taking everything very seriously.

This week I obtained the "cracker dry" mushrooms and powered them with a coffee grinder. Over several days I starting taking microdoses... working my way up until I started to feel something (which never happened). Last night I took 2.5 grams (mixed into a small bowl of applesauce). To date, I've felt absolutely nothing and, to be honest, I am very disappointed. I allowed myself to become hopeful that I finally might have found something that would pull me out of this darkness.

My questions for you:

1) Do you think I may have received a "dud" batch of shrooms?
2) Is it possible that 2.5 grams (measured with an accurate dry-weight scale) isn't enough for me? I understand the density issues and rounded up using information I found on this site.
3) I'm aware that certain SSRI's can inhibit the psilocybin response. I'm taking 60mg of Cymbalta, 1x day. My psychiatrist said that 60mg wasn't enough to blunt the effects but she wasn't 100% certain.

I would sincerely appreciate any feedback/advice you might offer.


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Re: Incedibly disappointed [Re: Latency] * 1
    #26473398 - 02/07/20 07:53 AM (4 years, 9 days ago)

It’s enough.

Take a month off the SSRIs and try again.


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Re: Incedibly disappointed [Re: Latency] * 1
    #26473407 - 02/07/20 08:01 AM (4 years, 9 days ago)

Probably got mushrooms but not the kind you want or some that have had severe potency loss.

Cracker dry mushrooms smell and taste like ass. They also look like this most of the time.





If you're able to you might just want to try growing them on a cake or two just so you can get the real deal and know what you're getting. Even with me at a dose of .15-.20 g in a capsule I can feel differences in my body and mind.

Edit: It could also be the SSRIs, didn't see that part.


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Re: Incedibly disappointed [Re: Dephect]
    #26473412 - 02/07/20 08:04 AM (4 years, 9 days ago)

Thank you so much. I should have taken of photo of the bag I received but, I know they did look something like that.

I agree that I should just grow my own. I was a hardware engineer before I stopped working so cultivation would been something really fun to research and implement. ;-) I'm also going to talk to my doctor about stopping the Cymbalta temporarily.


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Re: Incedibly disappointed [Re: Dephect]
    #26473413 - 02/07/20 08:05 AM (4 years, 9 days ago)

Ok, thank you so much!


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Re: Incedibly disappointed [Re: Latency] * 2
    #26473421 - 02/07/20 08:16 AM (4 years, 9 days ago)

Also, microdosing can raise tolerance somewhat. Aim for a dose that's well above the threshold, but still controllable. Usually 1 dry gram is very much noticeable, but you won't get off your tits completely. 2.5g dry is a lot for a beginner. IMHO. Wait at least a week between doses, two weeks or more is better.

Treat introductory doses just like a full experience. Even 1g can be surprising at times.

It's a good idea to inform your doctor about stopping the medication. :thumbup:


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Re: Incedibly disappointed [Re: Latency]
    #26473423 - 02/07/20 08:17 AM (4 years, 9 days ago)

2.5 grams is more than I would have recommended taking your first time. It's a medium dose and should definitely have some effect. Mushroom potency varies from strain to strain, and sometimes even mushroom to mushroom.

I would almost venture to guess that the mushrooms you obtained were not psilocybin containing. ONE side note. I've know two people who took drugs for depression that suppressed their ability to trip, although the substance was LSD. One was taking an SSRI and the other was taking an SNRI.


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Re: Incedibly disappointed [Re: WinterOwned] * 1
    #26473659 - 02/07/20 10:24 AM (4 years, 9 days ago)

lay off the SSRI, don't microdose (since it will raise tolerance as dosage increases) and when your system is good to go dose 2 to 2.5 grams of mushrooms, 1 to 1.5 gram isn't what you're looking for, sure it's a safe dose for a beginner but you'll probably still be disappointed at such a dose.


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Re: Incedibly disappointed [Re: Sabnock] * 1
    #26473662 - 02/07/20 10:25 AM (4 years, 9 days ago)

2g is the sweet spot for first timers.

Don’t ruin your first trip by underdosing


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Re: Incedibly disappointed [Re: feldman114] * 1
    #26473712 - 02/07/20 10:48 AM (4 years, 9 days ago)

I didn't expect taking 2.5g would have absolutely no effect. As others have pointed out, it was probably the Cymbalta that prevented the trip. I already have an appt. with my doctor on Monday so I'll get that worked out.

Thanks!


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Re: Incedibly disappointed [Re: Latency]
    #26474046 - 02/07/20 02:29 PM (4 years, 9 days ago)

Pretty much what everyone said. Perhaps you could post a picture of them to rule out inactive mushrooms?


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Re: Incedibly disappointed [Re: Latency] * 1
    #26474161 - 02/07/20 03:35 PM (4 years, 9 days ago)

2.5 of good, active mushrooms would've unquestionably did the trick.

They were either not active and sold to you as if they were or they had lost all potency by not being stored correctly.


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Re: Incedibly disappointed [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26474364 - 02/07/20 05:57 PM (4 years, 9 days ago)

It's the ssri definitely. 100%. 2.5g is the perfect beginner dose I think. Get off the ssri and try again. And don't micro dose beforehand. It will give you a tolerance.


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Re: Incedibly disappointed [Re: Latency]
    #26475836 - 02/08/20 05:14 PM (4 years, 8 days ago)

Beating a dead horse, I'm sure, but I recommend:
1. Discontinuing Cymbalta under the direction of your doctor and staying off for a month or two before trying again.
2. Not microdosing prior to your therapeutic dose, especially not several days in a row. Psilocybin is self limiting, so that may have contributed to your (lack of) experience.


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Re: Incedibly disappointed [Re: fluorescent]
    #26476514 - 02/09/20 07:36 AM (4 years, 7 days ago)

Microdoses caused you to have tolerance. You don't work your way up to 2.5 grams, I don't know who told you that. Take no shrooms at all for two weeks+ then take 2.5 grams. Or just microdose, not both.


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Re: Incedibly disappointed [Re: viraldrome]
    #26483174 - 02/13/20 06:30 AM (4 years, 3 days ago)

My 2 cents, two people i know closely have tripped on 2g of cubes. One was taking effexor 70mg SNRi, the other was on 20mg lexapro SSRI.

The effects they felt were slightly lower than others but at 2g plus dosage they have repeatedly felt good effects.

Another person i know who takes 40mg lexapro(highest dose allowed) has also tripped successfully on 2.5g.

All these were B+ cubes no pan cyans or penis envy.

My suggestion begin with the end in mind... tapering ur SSRI can be a real bitch,do it definitely but dont tie up the reason for not tripping with it. Taper it nevertheless when you can. Meanwhile as others have suggested wait 3 weeks, fast for 8 hrs n then take 2.5g.

Also if possible find an alternate source ,its going to be a lot easier than dicking around with the ssri.


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