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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: Hotdog from Space]
    #26469168 - 02/04/20 08:04 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

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The majority of people aren't leaders and look for vicarious means to live out aspects of their life they aren't willing/able to manifest




Yes, this is true, and it's good thinking. People see what they themself lack in others. Other people show us what we our self lack, be it authority, money or whatever else.

The guru is authority, and this is why the role of guru and the sociopath often are the exact same. The guru attract those who lack the trait of authority, and in bowing to the guru, I think the follower is able to feel a sense of relief, the guru becomes the father figure they want.




Exactly.. A mind-state a transcendent self-lead person realizes they can dwell in but quickly moves beyond to obtain higher enlightenment. I could cater to a sociopath/charismatic self declared guru lifestyle but that would only shorten my enlightenment for worldly gain....

Why this phenomenon is a constant throughout history is clear as are the dynamics and participants.
It's something that, as I become more aware recognized and moved beyond caring much about because, as you state, its a good thing for those captured by it. It benefits them and bears fruit. Those who wander in the wilderness are a smaller percentage and this will always be the case... It's a path removed from the world thus it is a given that it wont be glorified/recognized. I had to learn to not to be attached/emotional about the realities of the world. They are what they are and are that way for a reason. Gurus exist for a reason. Their adherents exist for a reason.

It's just not my cup or tea and if there's anyone out there in search of what's beyond that, I just declare it's definitely there for the taking... but it is the lessor traveled path and requires lots of hard work, retracing the steps of former 'gurus' and finding that next step beyond theirs. Not something most would sensible sign up for, but if you hear the calling.. Don't hesitate. It's a beautiful place to eventually grasp.


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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: r00tcmplx]
    #26469483 - 02/04/20 11:55 PM (4 years, 12 days ago)

I can see how even a highly immoral and abuse guru could in the ultimate sense be seen as beneficial to the abuser.

After all, it is the abused that gives up his/her authority. And one could say, that for some, the abuse might be exactly what they need, maybe they won't get it any other way?

This game has been happening since the beginning of time, the pattern of master/slave is seen not only in spiritual circles, it is seen everywhere if you eyes are open for it, including everyday life, in every conversation between humans, the game of power is visible to some degree.

To become enlightened, if you are under the sway of such a guru, means to reckonize that you are your own authority, and reckonize that you have been a total fool. You have essentialy been looking for a idealized parent, and what you got was the exact opposite.

And in a way, it makes "methapysical" sense that it would work in this way. Cause if the abused really got him/herself a idealized parent, there would be no spiritual growth. Growth can only occur if the abused realizes she/he is being abused, and go deep into that dark and cruel rabbit hole, it's a dangerous path for sure.

A much better path of realizing ones own authority is the Zen. They will play this exact game on you, but within a moral framework, if one is lucky enough to meet a master that actually has morals. Of course, these spiritual positions as guru and master attracts sociopaths like any other position that involves power over other people.


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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: Hotdog from Space]
    #26469491 - 02/05/20 12:05 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

Very interesting.
I never thought about this power dynamic.
Thank you for this detail. Allows me to think on this concept more.


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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: r00tcmplx]
    #26469535 - 02/05/20 12:49 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

It's very few that really gets it.

And once you start getting it and begin doing your own research, it can take you down some dark, very well hidden rabbit holes.

But it should be a piece of cake compared to a heroic dose of magic mushroom. I actually think it was magic mushroom that opened me up to exploring the dark depths of the human psyche, and how incredible manipulative and dark the human psyche really can be.

Those who know it, hide it. Those who don't know it, more than often willingly stays ignorant of it (ignorance is bliss), cause you really need to use your intelligence to understand the mechanisms.

The whole neo-advaita movement for example (etc. Mooji) its nothing but a highly intelligent mind control ploy.

But now with the internet, secrets can no longer be kept. And I bet there are many more like me that uses the internet for their own "sociological" research.


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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: Hotdog from Space]
    #26469690 - 02/05/20 05:42 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

Have you recently or one of your loved ones recently left a cult or something?

Do you see any parallel threads in how Trump has dominated the republican party and subjugated America?


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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26469747 - 02/05/20 06:42 AM (4 years, 12 days ago)

No,

And parallels are everywhere. I dont bother with the US political mess, it's to retarded for my taste.


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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: Hotdog from Space]
    #26470401 - 02/05/20 02:21 PM (4 years, 11 days ago)

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No,

And parallels are everywhere. I dont bother with the US political mess, it's to retarded for my taste.



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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26470407 - 02/05/20 02:24 PM (4 years, 11 days ago)

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Have you recently or one of your loved ones recently left a cult or something?

Do you see any parallel threads in how Trump has dominated the republican party and subjugated America?




It's never the case that one person did 'X' and take power over swaths of people 'Y'.
It's moreso that swaths of idiots/fools/followers/disenfranchised/etc reliquished their power and support and put it in the hands of 'X' so that they (Y) could live vicariously through them or see their agendas/goals realized through them.

I personally have never voted because I don't perceive most politicians to be intelligent/honest/or seemingly able to get anything of value done that I support without undoing it with some other boneheaded practice. Others.. they'll vote for someone just because they like his/her style. Not sure what the parallel would be here. There are no Gurus but there are tons of tools who believe there are... thus the concept is born and embodied even if it doesn't exist.


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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: r00tcmplx] * 1
    #26471099 - 02/05/20 08:57 PM (4 years, 11 days ago)

Chomsky has done some good work on the political system and education.

Here is a quote from the philosopher Pierce:

"Let the will of the state act, then, instead of that of the individual. Let an institution be created which shall have for its object to keep correct doctrines before the attention of the people, to reiterate them perpetually, and to teach them to the young; having at the same time power to prevent contrary doctrines from being taught, advocated, or expressed. Let all possible causes of a change of mind be removed from men's apprehensions. Let them be kept ignorant, lest they should learn of some reason to think otherwise than they do. Let their passions be enlisted, so that they may regard private and unusual opinions with hatred and horror. Then, let all men who reject the established belief be terrified into silence. Let the people turn out and tar-and-feather such men, or let inquisitions be made into the manner of thinking of suspected persons, and when they are found guilty of forbidden beliefs, let them be subjected to some signal punishment. When complete agreement could not otherwise be reached, a general massacre of all who have not thought in a certain way has proved a very effective means of settling opinion in a country. If the power to do this be wanting, let a list of opinions be drawn up, to which no man of the least independence of thought can assent, and let the faithful be required to accept all these propositions, in order to segregate them as radically as possible from the influence of the rest of the world."

and from William Harris:
"Quotes. Ninety-nine [students] out of a hundred are automata, careful to walk in prescribed paths, careful to follow the prescribed custom. This is not an accident but the result of substantial education, which, scientifically defined, is the subsumption of the individual."

As I said, parallels are everywhere, since these controls mechanisms is embedded in the human and the cosmos.


When I say "embedded in the cosmos" i really mean it, cause I have seen these structures in the depths of the universe while on high doses of mushrooms. For example there are many reporting seeing some kind of matrix structure when smoking DMT. One could even replace the word cosmos with subconcious, it don't matter, they are just words.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OehTO9l1Hp8


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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: Hotdog from Space]
    #26471128 - 02/05/20 09:13 PM (4 years, 11 days ago)

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Chomsky has done some good work on the political system and education.

Here is a quote from the philosopher Pierce:

"Let the will of the state act, then, instead of that of the individual. Let an institution be created which shall have for its object to keep correct doctrines before the attention of the people, to reiterate them perpetually, and to teach them to the young; having at the same time power to prevent contrary doctrines from being taught, advocated, or expressed. Let all possible causes of a change of mind be removed from men's apprehensions. Let them be kept ignorant, lest they should learn of some reason to think otherwise than they do. Let their passions be enlisted, so that they may regard private and unusual opinions with hatred and horror. Then, let all men who reject the established belief be terrified into silence. Let the people turn out and tar-and-feather such men, or let inquisitions be made into the manner of thinking of suspected persons, and when they are found guilty of forbidden beliefs, let them be subjected to some signal punishment. When complete agreement could not otherwise be reached, a general massacre of all who have not thought in a certain way has proved a very effective means of settling opinion in a country. If the power to do this be wanting, let a list of opinions be drawn up, to which no man of the least independence of thought can assent, and let the faithful be required to accept all these propositions, in order to segregate them as radically as possible from the influence of the rest of the world."

and from William Harris:
"Quotes. Ninety-nine [students] out of a hundred are automata, careful to walk in prescribed paths, careful to follow the prescribed custom. This is not an accident but the result of substantial education, which, scientifically defined, is the subsumption of the individual."

As I said, parallels are everywhere, since these controls mechanisms is embedded in the human and the cosmos.


When I say "embedded in the cosmos" i really mean it, cause I have seen these structures in the depths of the universe while on high doses of mushrooms. For example there are many reporting seeing some kind of matrix structure when smoking DMT. One could even replace the word cosmos with subconcious, it don't matter, they are just words.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OehTO9l1Hp8




Profound .. i like the way you think.

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One could even replace the word cosmos with subconcious, it don't matter, they are just words.




^this guy knows what's up
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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: r00tcmplx]
    #26471832 - 02/06/20 11:07 AM (4 years, 10 days ago)

I think the guru world is the opposite of "a few bad apples". It's a majority of bad apples.

I think that for "seekers" there's a tendency to add one's fantasies to the words. One guru I won't mention used the mantra "be your own guru". He also suggested one should take what resonates and discard the rest. And yet he was worshiped and also hated. It's not the guru's fault they are idolized, yet many of them, even some who start with good intentions, take advantage of that human tendency and are corrupted. Very human.


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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: Hotdog from Space]
    #26471969 - 02/06/20 12:33 PM (4 years, 10 days ago)

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I think the guru world is the opposite of "a few bad apples". It's a majority of bad apples.




Because, in the market place of this phenomenon established by supply/demand dynamics... The Demand ('Guru' follower) often has serious shortcomings that lead to the demand side being what it is. A couple occasional views of a youtube video should be enough to get 'meat' if that's what someone is after. There's no reason or premise for idol worship and other such guru idiocy. Yet, the demand side is what it is and it leads to the 'manifestation' of the Guru concept. This is all demand side. The bad apples are the demand side. The Supply (Supposed Guru) is just catering to the marketplace.

Take the clown known as Elon Musk for instance and his cargo cult. He could be just as easily as much a nobody as any
subpar CEO who doesn't know how to make a profitable company. Hell, Founders/CEOs 1000x more wealthy/profitable who have impacted the world 1000x more are far less known/cared for. Yet, Musk's bandwagon of followers make him a 'Guru'? Why? because of their clearly observable short comings and what he gives them 'access to'. Demand meats supply

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I think that for "seekers" there's a tendency to add one's fantasies to the words.




Beyond very brief consumption, being married to a Guru highlights something far deeper on the seeker's part.

In summary, the dynamics are set by the demand side. They want something they can't create on their own and to what extent they follow/become married to a guru is a direct measure of that lacking.

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One guru I won't mention used the mantra "be your own guru".




There are no Gurus. The mantra 'be your own guru'.. aka : be your own leader is all a person should need to hear.
The person because you're maybe to shy to mention them is : Alan Watts. I came across his material some time back. He's a cool dude who dabbled in psychedelics with some interesting views. He verbalizes them very well. It gives a person ideas. He gave me some pretty good ideas and then I moved on. I don't consider him a Guru even though he left a good impression on me. Another person? Ah', they may consider him a God. A person's belief doesn't make it so however. So, Gurus don't exist. It is an idea/projection of a person who often has short comings and is unable to grasp how to close the gap.

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He also suggested one should take what resonates and discard the rest. And yet he was worshiped and also hated. It's not the guru's fault they are idolized, yet many of them, even some who start with good intentions, take advantage of that human tendency and are corrupted. Very human.




Gurus don't exist. It's a demand (follower) side projection that is set upon by the gap that exists (shortcoming) between a follower and the person they're following. If a person keeps banging down my door wanting to praise me and give me things, I'm going to tell them to pull themselves together but eventually I'm going to entertain and enjoy what they have to offer. It doesn't make me corrupt and I'm not doing anything wrong especially when it is uttered : Get your shit together... be your own leader.. I am not your leader, you are... and the person still does as they do. I have to eventually respect that's who they are and who they want to be and take what they have to offer me and move to on with my life. For, I don't follow the drumbeat of another.


Ignorance especially self-willed ignorance garners a hefty price in this universe. There has to be a force/mechanism to exact the toll. This is not corrupt or evil. It simply 'is'.


Also, speaking of what simply 'is'. Socal is a very toxic spiritual environment. It's filled with wall to wall exploitation and manipulation. This is why the Guru/spiritual cult bullshit is so established there. People go on savaging each other in their 9-5 and seek penance/escape so they can jump right back on the horse the next day. The 'Guru' community provides this. These same people could get the fuck out of dodge and be more immersed in the spiritual essence they claim is the purpose of life (on weekends) but clearly choose otherwise. So, the Guru provides them with the mentalscape and they ofc charge a hefty price... Absolutely nothing awry on either side.

Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.
If life were easy/the point of life.. This saga/drama we've been on for billions of years would have already been over in the blink of an eye. Ultimately, worshiping a 'guru' could be one person's life purpose... Fuck do I know on this twisted ride?


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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: r00tcmplx] * 1
    #26472035 - 02/06/20 01:05 PM (4 years, 10 days ago)

what friggin gurus are you all talking about? I've never met anyone who calls themselves a guru in my life. Am I in the minority here? Is this something you folks run into a lot?


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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: r00tcmplx]
    #26472038 - 02/06/20 01:06 PM (4 years, 10 days ago)

I tend to think a person is a guru because people consider them gurus. That doesn't mean they are good at it, meaning whether they stand the test of time and remain un corrupted, and a good guru doesn't generally get good results for the reasons you mentioned. It's not up to them, whether another person drinks the water.

It could be argued that accepting more than one needs when preaching that one needs little sends the wrong message and does lead to corruption. One could also take the position that it's gracious to accept gifts, but knowing they're being given for reasons that don't befit their goals casts doubt on this practice.

The one I mentioned isn't Alan Watts. This person started out very optimistic and had a lot of insightful things to say. He got rich and gluttonous and didn't practice what he preached. Additionally his teachings weren't having the effect he wanted and he became frustrated. As a result he tried to change his discourse and it suffered. He lost it all and may be dead now for all I know.


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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: Kickle]
    #26472060 - 02/06/20 01:18 PM (4 years, 10 days ago)

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what friggin gurus are you all talking about? I've never met anyone who calls themselves a guru in my life. Am I in the minority here? Is this something you folks run into a lot?




Sub "spiritual teacher"


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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: Kickle]
    #26472061 - 02/06/20 01:19 PM (4 years, 10 days ago)

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what friggin gurus are you all talking about? I've never met anyone who calls themselves a guru in my life. Am I in the minority here? Is this something you folks run into a lot?



It's more clearly implied than stated.
Also, Socal...
It's the haven of psychopaths and manipulators


A quick run through :
> https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/cults-los-angeles/
Scientology and most nutbag cults/gurus come from here.
> https://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/04/t-magazine/the-stunning-sacred-retreats-of-california.html
> https://www.visitcalifornia.com/feature/california-detox-retreats

Anything from detox, drug retreats, spiritual gurus, etc are rife in socal/calif.
I'm up in Norcal. It is not as substantial as socal but its present. I also spent some time in Socal and its actually everywhere and common....

Anything you can imagine likely has some form of HQ in socal :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophical_Society_Pasadena

It's the nature of the psychosphere.
I simply don't attribute such characteristics to anyone ... even Jesus/Buddha.
If there's something of value to be gained from someone, i take it in and leave it at that. I don't care for the messenger... I only care about the message.


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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: Rahz]
    #26472077 - 02/06/20 01:29 PM (4 years, 10 days ago)

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I tend to think a person is a guru because people consider them gurus. That doesn't mean they are good at it, meaning whether they stand the test of time and remain un corrupted, and a good guru doesn't generally get good results for the reasons you mentioned. It's not up to them, whether another person drinks the water.




Well yeah, so 'Guru' is an abstraction in the mind of a follower and I tend to find it uttered/framed as a result and to a degree of what is lacking in a follower... Such that, I disregard it as a valid notion/term present objectively. It is subjective and it garners significance in direct relation to how much a person is lacking. Not the foundation I like to base terminology on...

i.e : A person (F) with no formal education or knowledge of X thinks a charismatic person centered on 'X'denoted by B who has skill level relative to others in the discipline of (10 out of 100) is a 'guru'. By comparison, person F has skill level 1 out of 100. Meanwhile people at skill level 90/100 declare there are no gurus. 

Gurus simply don't exist beyond a term used to denote someone with a wide enough skill gap to lack quality perception or judgement.

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It could be argued that accepting more than one needs when preaching that one needs little sends the wrong message and does lead to corruption. One could also take the position that it's gracious to accept gifts, but knowing they're being given for reasons that don't befit their goals casts doubt on this practice.




I see your practical point and agree as it applies to someone who intentionally sets upon such a dynamic.
I guess in your earlier statement, you are also correct in established that an actually 'good guru' doesn't become notable enough or end up in this situation because they don't lie/manipulate to a point that their followers get off into such wayward praises.

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The one I mentioned isn't Alan Watts. This person started out very optimistic and had a lot of insightful things to say. He got rich and gluttonous and didn't practice what he preached. Additionally his teachings weren't having the effect he wanted and he became frustrated. As a result he tried to change his discourse and it suffered. He lost it all and may be dead now for all I know.



My mistake then as I posted a video from Alan watts entitled 'be your own guru' in this thread.
And yeah, a leader has to sometimes be careful riding their wave of followers. The gifts and acclaim can seem great but if one not is careful it can eventually serve as their undoing... even mentally. The mob that puts you on high can also be so powerful that they bring you to the deepest lows against all strength you can muster to fight it.


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    #26472124 - 02/06/20 01:53 PM (4 years, 10 days ago)

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Sub "spiritual teacher"




Closest thing I can think for this is a priest and I don't come across them very often. The rest are just people doing people things IME. I have met a few wise one's along the way though.

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It's more clearly implied than stated.
Also, Socal...




The Socal part makes sense to me but that's just based on stereotypes. I've been to the LA/Hollywood area only once and it was 20+ years ago. So I don't really know what it's like. I did have a really nice girl come visit from SoCal when I was still in highschool. We were talking online and she wanted to visit me in person. She came into my work and we made out for a bit then she was on her way. I thought she was pretty bold but I wasn't complaining. She was really into the environment and went on to direct environmental impact work for a few different companies. I lost track of her somewhere along the line.

Anyways. She didn't say she was a guru :thumbup:

If there are really that many people posturing wisdom then there must be some sort of reward for doing so? What's in it for people down there?


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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: Kickle]
    #26472136 - 02/06/20 02:02 PM (4 years, 10 days ago)

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Closest thing I can think for this is a priest and I don't come across them very often. The rest are just people doing people things IME. I have met a few wise one's along the way though.




Immediate names that come to mind are Eckhart Tolle and Adyashanti. Look them up and "spiritual teacher" will be in the first sentence of description. It's prevalent in Indian culture, but not well known here. Sometimes there will be reports of scandals. Someone was caught having sex or eating something delicious. In that same way they're considered spiritual teachers, priests are priests due to consensus. And they do priestly things to support themselves, just like spiritual teachers spout wise sayings to support themselves. Non denominational so they don't have an organization to give weight to the title. Although, in the East there are boards that will judge a person's enlightenment without regard for denomination.


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Re: Gurus and rules [Re: Rahz]
    #26472151 - 02/06/20 02:13 PM (4 years, 10 days ago)

Yeah I've heard their names. Reminds me of hearing Brad Pitt though. Sure some people will worship the dude but I'm not about to whip my dick out in protest. That might be what some of Brad's followers do when they see him tho :crazy2:

Do Tolle and Adyashanti have rules that people follow?


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