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Offlinefeldman114
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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: 330ci]
    #26473558 - 02/07/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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  I said you don't understand yourself well enough to realize how laughable the experience you've portrayed as some horrifying endeavor is. then have the audacity to call me out as if I'm unaware of what these substances are capable of because your concept of reality doesn't allow you to grasp how they could be used in a certain way for personal growth.




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nowhere in my statements have I said you are worse than me.



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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: feldman114]
    #26473562 - 02/07/20 09:38 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, I was initially referring to your repression/emotional response one... the normal shit that people go through on psychedelics that they can then internalize, accept, and integrate into their life.

No doubt your movie experience was a bad trip.
Nothing of use could come from it, your mind basically just goes to mush and shorts out on a redundancy.
Nothing was learned, it came from nowhere. I mean... you're kind of setting yourself up for an unpleasant experience in that setting, but it's still not guaranteed and it has nothing to do with being able to accept something your brain is trying to tell you.


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: feldman114]
    #26473566 - 02/07/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Feldman, you now know not to trip at the movies. You got something out of that trip.


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: 330ci] * 1
    #26473582 - 02/07/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Ok bad trips can definitely happen, set and setting definitely play a large role. Years ago I decided like an idiot to dose 7 grams and go hiking...anyhow I became hopelessly lost in the desert not because I was hopelessly lost but because I truly believed I was and managed to convince myself I was going to die despite the fact that I could see the city and a main road from where I was and could have easily walked there and called someone to pick me up. Other times I've had relatively low dose trips go bad for seemingly no reason at all, I waited and waited some more trying to see what they had to show me before having to abort. Same as I've entered hellholes on LSD, and came to from 60mg of DMT in a different room than I smoked in actually that trip scared me off breakthrough doses for nearly 2 years. Bad trips do happen. But I will agree that most times they are difficult and uncomfortable trips, but not bad because they have something to show. Just trying to say, don't say there's no bad trips until you've been in the psychedelic game a bit longer.


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: The Mycologist]
    #26473589 - 02/07/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Feldman, you now know not to trip at the movies. You got something out of that trip.




:rofl2: Now that’s some next level cup-half-full attitude


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: feldman114]
    #26473597 - 02/07/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Thats how you gotta be bro


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: The Mycologist]
    #26473605 - 02/07/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Called it. 😊

We neck deep into it now, skipping right over semantics and straight into finding out which of us is the enlightened guru. I guess I am forced to jump in and set you folks straight.

Clearly, I am a more psychedelic person than half the people here, go ahead and post up if you find yourself in the lesser half, I am needing to demonstrate my superior theories and truths to you now. Probably have more experience than you too. So nanners on you and you inferior way of seeing the world! 😝

Does anyone else consider a full and unquestionable surety in ones own beliefs and worldview an obvious sign that said person isn’t as enlightened, wise or intelligent as they suppose?


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: The Mycologist] * 1
    #26473623 - 02/07/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Thats how you gotta be bro




Hey, I can’t argue with that, keep on keepin on man
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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: feldman114]
    #26473624 - 02/07/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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feldman114 said:
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  I said you don't understand yourself well enough to realize how laughable the experience you've portrayed as some horrifying endeavor is. then have the audacity to call me out as if I'm unaware of what these substances are capable of because your concept of reality doesn't allow you to grasp how they could be used in a certain way for personal growth.




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nowhere in my statements have I said you are worse than me.



:tryingnottodie::ancientaliens:



Keep grasping at straws bud, nothing but projections of your own mind.


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26473625 - 02/07/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The only bad mushroom trip I had was on 40gs of fresh tamp truffles + 20gs of fresh apes. I mostly trip alone now because my uncle was creeping me the fuck out and being weird as fuck and something told me he was going to kill me, I got all paranoid and I got stuck in a bad place. I went back to a bad acid trip I had years ago, it seamed the exact same except I was on shrooms.


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26473635 - 02/07/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Does anyone else consider a full and unquestionable surety in ones own beliefs and worldview an obvious sign that said person isn’t as enlightened, wise or intelligent as they suppose?




Either that or a really poor ability to articulate their perspective.
In this case, simply just lack of experience and/or receptivity.

edit: articul...


Edited by footpath (02/07/20 10:16 AM)


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: 330ci]
    #26473636 - 02/07/20 10:12 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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330ci said:
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feldman114 said:
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  I said you don't understand yourself well enough to realize how laughable the experience you've portrayed as some horrifying endeavor is. then have the audacity to call me out as if I'm unaware of what these substances are capable of because your concept of reality doesn't allow you to grasp how they could be used in a certain way for personal growth.




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nowhere in my statements have I said you are worse than me.



:tryingnottodie::ancientaliens:



Keep grasping at straws bud, nothing but projections of your own mind.




Hahah wuuut

Those are DIRECT QUOTES...straight from YOUR mind, bud.


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: feldman114]
    #26473666 - 02/07/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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feldman114 said:
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330ci said:
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feldman114 said:
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  I said you don't understand yourself well enough to realize how laughable the experience you've portrayed as some horrifying endeavor is. then have the audacity to call me out as if I'm unaware of what these substances are capable of because your concept of reality doesn't allow you to grasp how they could be used in a certain way for personal growth.




Quote:

nowhere in my statements have I said you are worse than me.



:tryingnottodie::ancientaliens:



Keep grasping at straws bud, nothing but projections of your own mind.




Hahah wuuut

Those are DIRECT QUOTES...straight from YOUR mind, bud.





I said you were unaware of a certain situation. I don't think your lack of awareness makes you worse than me. I never stated you were worse then me, nor do I think that. sorry if you ever took it that way.


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: 330ci]
    #26473743 - 02/07/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

First we have to start on what is bad.

Is bad bad?


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: The Mycologist]
    #26473756 - 02/07/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

idk ask my parents, they'll tell you i'm bad, ask 10 other people, you'll get 10 different answers. you ask me, i'd say i'm good.ask how I am and i'd say doing just fine, ask me to define bad i'd ask what context, the concept of a bad trip however is lost to me and apparently i'm bad for questioning how someone could allow an experience to impact them in such a way. are these the projections of your thoughts or mine? i haven't the slightest clue. what the fuck are we even talking about anymore.


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: 330ci]
    #26473760 - 02/07/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So ridiculously not true lmfao. You gonna get smacked hard 1 day.


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: The Mycologist]
    #26473762 - 02/07/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

That's why I tried to steer it towards trauma.

Now it's just become a bit tiresome and I'm almost convinced the purpose of this topic was just to trigger people with an inflammatory proposition.
Those of us who've had a bad trip know the difference between it and what OP was suggesting as a bad trip - which was just a description of a solid half of the trips that people generally have.


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: 330ci]
    #26473766 - 02/07/20 11:29 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You are touching on murkiness of all this.

Bad means different things to others.

and level of bad also is subjective.

The post could also be "My thoughts on why a bad life doesnt exist" cuz at least you're livin


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: footpath]
    #26473791 - 02/07/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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footpath said:
That's why I tried to steer it towards trauma.

Now it's just become a bit tiresome and I'm almost convinced the purpose of this topic was just to trigger people with an inflammatory proposition.
Those of us who've had a bad trip know the difference between it and what OP was suggesting as a bad trip - which was just a description of a solid half of the trips that people generally have.





people experience trauma all the time, some get over it some don't. fact is, trauma is trauma and it seems real but it isn't. and until you can understand that concept it's a moot argument. once you get past the experience of the drug itself it can cause you no more physical danger, the danger then becomes you to yourself. Have I had days after trips where I was so discontent with myself I almost put a bullet through my head? you betcha, but at the end of the day I didn't and when I realized how stupid those thoughts were, why I had them in the first place and told myself those were bad thoughts and we aint ready to die. I got over it. I've had many bouts of psychosis, mania, whatever you may call it and experienced discomfort with reality for the bulk of my life. i'm probably fucking crazy, but I love myself, my life,have a few very close people in my life, I feel I have purpose, and ultimately it's the comfort within myself that allows me to believe that I could never have a bad trip as it is nothing more a serotonin rush and a conglomeration of thoughts I wasn't capable of having without a little extra boost. I tried killing myself for years through addiction, had such discontent with my thoughts and relationships in life I tried killing myself outright and i've overcome these anxieties, depressions and fears. i've experienced some of the greatest traumas in life and have managed to process them just fine. a bad trip is nothing different than those experiences however much so you may believe.


and jesus h fuck with the enlightenment jokes, does it say i am enlightened? no it says please enlighten me. attack my thoughts but leave me the fuck alone.


Edited by 330ci (02/07/20 11:51 AM)


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Re: My thoughts on why I don't believe bad mushroom trips exist [Re: 330ci] * 1
    #26473817 - 02/07/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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...trauma seems real but it isn’t..




Shit like this is why I laugh at your “enlightenment”


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