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B+ bag grows colonizing slow and not pinning when all my other strains do perfect in the same way...
    #26470088 - 02/05/20 11:02 AM (4 years, 11 days ago)

I grow in bags now for me I think it's easier and more hassle free and takes up less space.... I've been at this for years and have never had a strain that I couldn't get to fruit until now.  I have 10+ strains going at all times these B+ were healthy and comtam free as I started all my spores on agar and then to was and all jars colonized good and healthy I then mixed  them in with my VCS and gypsum and limestone powder for pH and cased some some I didn't and put them in my dark heated chamber at a steady 70-75° and all other strains have 100% colonized the substrate within 5 days yet the b+ don't and are patchy on the top layer so I move them to my fruiting hamber after 10 days open and fan thouroughly and reseal bags. I am using .5 and .2 depending on what I'm doing with them and it's been years since I have grown b+ but damn I don't remember them being slower than Jesus I have yet to get a single pin from them one has been in the fruting chamber almost 3weeks no contamination on any of them and also no pins at temps 70° steady...any ideas welcomed


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Re: B+ bag grows colonizing slow and not pinning when all my other strains do perfect in the same way... [Re: BeAsT190272]
    #26471726 - 02/06/20 09:15 AM (4 years, 10 days ago)

I'm new to this but I think that you shouldve colonized in the dark at a steady 75-80°F for better results, anything lower than 75 is better fruiting temps for cubensis strains. Maybe you could put them in the dark at 80 for a few days to try and get them more colonized.


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Re: B+ bag grows colonizing slow and not pinning when all my other strains do perfect in the same way... [Re: DeadCriteria]
    #26471842 - 02/06/20 11:14 AM (4 years, 10 days ago)

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DeadCriteria said:
I'm new to this but I think that you shouldve colonized in the dark at a steady 75-80°F for better results, anything lower than 75 is better fruiting temps for cubensis strains. Maybe you could put them in the dark at 80 for a few days to try and get them more colonized.




Colonizing in the dark is outdated info.  Light is beneficial in all stages.  Also, 70 is just fine for colonization temps.  My colonization temps ranged from 45-70 for the last couple months for example and while the low lows can slow things down a day or two, it doesn't keep my jars from colonizing or my sub from fruitng.  There's a lot of wierdness going on in that paragraph btw.  You grow in jars but you grow in bags.  You fanned them and resealed them?  What? :uhno:  Of all the things I can't quite discern from what I'm reading, I'll tell you that the assumption that there is "no contamination" is just that- an assumption.  Hidden contamination is ikely (from what I can discern given the info provided) what's stunting the development of your B+; although I cant tell quite what you're doing.  Don't assume your spawn was clean just becasue you think it looked good.  You mention bags, and though I can't tell how/where they come into play in this scenario,  that is possibly a problem if you're colonizng pre-made bags (which half the time are a fail due to their often being fucked over when they arrive).  Again, kind of unclear what you have going on there, but my main point is- don't assume your spawn is clean.  It would help if you could post some photos of what you have going on and clarify a few things.  B+ is- on the whole- an aggressive variety.


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Re: B+ bag grows colonizing slow and not pinning when all my other strains do perfect in the same way... [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26491349 - 02/18/20 08:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I started these from ms on agar and cleaned up on other plates until I was satisfied that only the best growth was being wedged into my colonizing jars, and bags occasionally which I pc@15 psi for 90-120 minutes depending on size.  I mix my substrate I usually use a 1:1:1 of verm, coir, and cnc cow shit with some gypsum and limestone powder and get to field capacity or slightly above pastuerize thouroghly in xxxl grow bags that I've sealed.  And when my jars are 100% colonized and consolidated I mix them into a new 0.5 bag in ranges from 1:1 to 1:3 and put on my dark colonizing shelf(right beside my agar shelf) and wait ten days.  They are all coming from clean agar wedges I've done this for many years done brf cakes on perlite to monotub grows and to bags and I'm my experience I can get more final weight harvested using my learned and tweaked method I've developed over years of trying different things than I could in a tub with equal weight of substrate and spawn.  I finally had some b+ flush just still don't get why they are taking so damn long, my PEUC beats these b+s by 2-4 weeks it's still a mystery to me...



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