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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: Moria841]
    #26765668 - 06/21/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Definitely ovoids


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: Moria841]
    #26765801 - 06/21/20 06:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Those are some cool genetics you got there. Sterile or albino? :shrug: Never seen them that pale/ gills not dark. Do they always look that way from the patch?


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: BVB]
    #26766268 - 06/21/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Just look like light colored gills. Sterile look like this

I have also found specimens dropping red spores but thats another story


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: BVB]
    #26766286 - 06/21/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Those are some cool genetics you got there. Sterile or albino? :shrug: Never seen them that pale/ gills not dark. Do they always look that way from the patch?



More or less, the gills tend to be lighter on these ones, especially around the edges. They're usually darker toward the middle


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26766293 - 06/21/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Global warming man lol. Before u know they'll be finding pan cyans in maine


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: Wildmana]
    #26768080 - 06/21/20 07:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I love this thread.  I never would have found ovoids with out it.  You all are great and thank you to everyone who has contibuted.  Most beautiful experiences on mushrooms.  Some times I forget what its like to -feel- alive.

I had a great year hunting wild ovoids but my man made patches in central ohio where a bust and it kind of bums me out.  I got more than enough wild ovoids till last until next year so I don't know why I let it bother me.

More of a cultivation question so I made a post in that forum about it.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26767737


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: Ps.NoName]
    #26774399 - 06/22/20 02:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Going camping this week near Kinzua Bridge State Park and Sizerville State Park in NW PA, within the Allegheny National Forest. Also considering camping on a horse farm near my first camp site. The weather looks like it has been good for Ovoids and maybe some Pans, too! Hope I return with some good news on Saturday.

I'm using hipcamp.com to locate these campsites on private property. I'm thinking I will visit a dairy farm later this summer using the same service to hunt for some cubes.


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: badreligion2good]
    #26778404 - 06/24/20 04:42 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)



Pickings are getting slim here.  Pretty much impossible to get to them in the wild before the bugs do. The cultivated patches are still pumping out pins tho


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26778412 - 06/24/20 04:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I probably shouldn't have given up on these so soon. I went to my spot one time on the 29th of April, and never returned.


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: Allium]
    #26778436 - 06/24/20 05:34 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I wonder, has anyone ever tried to do the classic Gourmet woodlover method of using dowels to inoculate a log with ovoids? I am asking because I heard that while cyans and azures dont, ovoids do colonize logs sometimes, so it seems possible. The log would of course have to be left in the forest for the correct outdoor fruiting conditions.


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: polaritymind]
    #26778445 - 06/24/20 05:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I wonder, has anyone ever tried to do the classic Gourmet woodlover method of using dowels to inoculate a log with ovoids? I am asking because I heard that while cyans and azures dont, ovoids do colonize logs sometimes, so it seems possible. The log would of course have to be left in the forest for the correct outdoor fruiting conditions.




Or in ones yard in a well shaded area, where it can be thoroughly monitored :wink: Go for it :thumbup:


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: polaritymind]
    #26778454 - 06/24/20 05:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

No need for dowels just take stembutts as you pick and stick them in the logs.


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26778463 - 06/24/20 05:56 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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No need for dowels just take stembutts as you pick and stick them in the logs.



:whathesaid:  and pieces of the caps if you finding older ones you dont want to eat


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: bloodycarcass]
    #26778681 - 06/24/20 08:14 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Well but if using nice, fresh and firm logs, not half rotten ones I would at least have to drill some holes right? So do you guys just pick and eat the caps for yourself? Id prefer the dowels since I can produce a virtually unlimited amount of them and wouldnt want to waste such a high amount of precious mushrooms, also I am far away from my first harvest and they dont grow locally here so I would just be faster.

Using a lot of dowels instead of just e few stem butts also gives me more security that in the highly competetive woods the ovoids will be faster and have a higher chance than wild mushrooms


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: bloodycarcass]
    #26778690 - 06/24/20 08:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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No need for dowels just take stembutts as you pick and stick them in the logs.



:whathesaid:  and pieces of the caps if you finding older ones you dont want to eat




Would dry stem butts/ fruits work? Or is there a way to get them going for planting? Like rehydrating in a bowl of water for a period of time :shrug:


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: polaritymind]
    #26778702 - 06/24/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The very base of the stem with the fuzzy rizomrphs is used. Only effective if kept moist. You don’t want to pick the stembutts unless you are using them for transplants. Ovoids are the most aggressive species of mushrooms that grow here in pa. They will out compete everything else.


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26780966 - 06/25/20 01:47 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ok and another thing
Sugar water soaked wood dowels for faster colonization

So I was thinking on using a 3% solution, relative to volume of the wood dowels when they would be soaked, roughly eyeballed, since even higher percentages or lower seem to work well from what I have been told.
It goes without saying that they would be PCd and inculated in jars for this.

Then make them a little more on the dry side and inoculate with a ton of woodlover LC. Could this increase colonization times? The idea came from the fact of how much faster my woodlovers colonize my agar than my grain and wood.

So anyone tried this? If not and people are interested I can post my results once I have done a side by side comparison


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: polaritymind]
    #26781152 - 06/25/20 04:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Not trying to kill the creativity here but why do you want to do dowels in the first place, the yield isn’t going to be on par with a mulchbed


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26781462 - 06/25/20 08:09 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Not trying to kill the creativity here but why do you want to do dowels in the first place, the yield isn’t going to be on par with a mulchbed




To inoculate, after having drilled holes in them, logs with ovoids in my woods.


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Re: East coast 2020 ovoidcystidata season! [Re: polaritymind] * 1
    #26781516 - 06/25/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Not really worth all the effort if you ask me, you’d be better off building traditional patches in the woods.  They do best fruiting from Buried logs. TexturedSound made a great tutorial for building patches from natural materials. Some plugs would be a cool experiment but I wouldn’t get your hopes to high


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