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Red Lion
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: TexturedSounds]
#26652342 - 05/06/20 06:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Should I use a stick to push undergrowth out of the way?
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Shroomsondeck
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: Red Lion]
#26652455 - 05/06/20 08:16 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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 we filled my trunk up with mostly ovoids last night, it’s insane out there.
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MacMerdin
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: Red Lion]
#26652488 - 05/06/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Red Lion said: Should I use a stick to push undergrowth out of the way?
It helps.
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: Shroomsondeck]
#26652513 - 05/06/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shroomsondeck said:
 we filled my trunk up with mostly ovoids last night, it’s insane out there.
Nice job! Can i ask where about roughly are ya!?! thats sick!
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Red Lion
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: Shroomsondeck]
#26652515 - 05/06/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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What type of habitat have you been finding them in? I've been searching all over the place and haven't seen one.
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va hunter
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: Red Lion]
#26652523 - 05/06/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Red Lion said: Should I use a stick to push undergrowth out of the way?
I use a hand-rake.
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: Red Lion]
#26652535 - 05/06/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Red Lion said: What type of habitat have you been finding them in? I've been searching all over the place and haven't seen one.
Sometimes you just gotta come to grips that they just don't grow in your area.
Just because they grow in your state, doesn't mean that they grow throughout the entire state.
There are none at all anywhere near me, but if you drive 30 miles North, you can find them.
When one doesn't drive, this makes a big problem, and my one time chance to go produced only a handful of old specimens.
Total waste of time,and gas.
Anyway, I'm done hunting ovoids, so I,ll just live vicariously through all the great finds you guys have been finding
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: Allium]
#26652582 - 05/06/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Allium said:
There are none at all anywhere near me, but if you drive 30 miles North, you can find them.
When one doesn't drive, this makes a big problem, and my one time chance to go produced only a handful of old specimens.
Total waste of time,and gas.
Anyway, I'm done hunting ovoids, so I,ll just live vicariously through all the great finds you guys have been finding 
Have you tried to start some where you live?
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: va hunter]
#26652600 - 05/06/20 09:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I did bring back a bunch of colonized substrate,and stem butts 
I just need to start my bed soon 
For some reason, it's not just ovoids that can't be found here, nothing can.
you can wander pristine wooded habitats for hours,and not find one single mushroom.
I've never lived anywhere, or seen anything this bad in my life.
I was lucky that I even found the small patch of morels this year, because I haven't found any for the past couple of years here.
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: Allium]
#26652751 - 05/06/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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For those who haven't had any luck, a few thoughts crossed my mind today. This is all coming from someone with no success in three years.
1. I think people fall into routinized behavior really quickly. I realized that I've basically been checking the same type of habitat and coming up with nothing. It's as if I got the idea in my head that I knew what the environment looked like despite never being successful. I'm going to change it up a little.
2. Many of the in situ photos posted here give the impression that the mushrooms will be readily seen if you keep your eye to the ground. But this is probably selection bias. Those photos are more prominent because they are easier to get; not because they reflect the typical growth pattern. Someone more experienced can confirm.
3. Excuse the platitudes but it's never a waste to go out.It's a ton of fun to be surrounded by so much lush greenery and even though I haven't found anything yet, I've learned a ton. I've gotten much better at identifying non-ovoids and the various indicator species.
4. if you really want mushrooms, learn to grow lol I'm sure if I invested the time I've spent foraging on learning to cultivate, I would have harvested literal pounds by now.
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: plexxed]
#26652769 - 05/06/20 11:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Plexxed you're close to southern NY right?
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plexxed
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: sbkn]
#26652778 - 05/06/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nah, I'm in Philly. So the area is definitely on the map. I used to live in Princeton, NJ though. I spent two years looking out there. This is my first season in PA.
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: plexxed]
#26652899 - 05/06/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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plexxed said: For those who haven't had any luck, a few thoughts crossed my mind today. This is all coming from someone with no success in three years.
1. I think people fall into routinized behavior really quickly. I realized that I've basically been checking the same type of habitat and coming up with nothing. It's as if I got the idea in my head that I knew what the environment looked like despite never being successful. I'm going to change it up a little.
2. Many of the in situ photos posted here give the impression that the mushrooms will be readily seen if you keep your eye to the ground. But this is probably selection bias. Those photos are more prominent because they are easier to get; not because they reflect the typical growth pattern. Someone more experienced can confirm.
3. Excuse the platitudes but it's never a waste to go out.It's a ton of fun to be surrounded by so much lush greenery and even though I haven't found anything yet, I've learned a ton. I've gotten much better at identifying non-ovoids and the various indicator species.
4. if you really want mushrooms, learn to grow lol I'm sure if I invested the time I've spent foraging on learning to cultivate, I would have harvested literal pounds by now.
I agree with all of these!
Your point about the photos is accurate. Ovoids are a pain in the ass to photograph because they hide so well, so any photos are usually of special ones that are posing. Most of the time they are barely poking out of the nettle, grass and wood they are growing in.
You're also right that it's easier to grow mushrooms than hunt ovoids, IMHO, having done both successfully.
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: gKid_A]
#26653059 - 05/06/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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gKid_A said:
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plexxed said: For those who haven't had any luck, a few thoughts crossed my mind today. This is all coming from someone with no success in three years.
1. I think people fall into routinized behavior really quickly. I realized that I've basically been checking the same type of habitat and coming up with nothing. It's as if I got the idea in my head that I knew what the environment looked like despite never being successful. I'm going to change it up a little.
2. Many of the in situ photos posted here give the impression that the mushrooms will be readily seen if you keep your eye to the ground. But this is probably selection bias. Those photos are more prominent because they are easier to get; not because they reflect the typical growth pattern. Someone more experienced can confirm.
3. Excuse the platitudes but it's never a waste to go out.It's a ton of fun to be surrounded by so much lush greenery and even though I haven't found anything yet, I've learned a ton. I've gotten much better at identifying non-ovoids and the various indicator species.
4. if you really want mushrooms, learn to grow lol I'm sure if I invested the time I've spent foraging on learning to cultivate, I would have harvested literal pounds by now.
I agree with all of these!
Your point about the photos is accurate. Ovoids are a pain in the ass to photograph because they hide so well, so any photos are usually of special ones that are posing. Most of the time they are barely poking out of the nettle, grass and wood they are growing in.
You're also right that it's easier to grow mushrooms than hunt ovoids, IMHO, having done both successfully.
You could venture out to almost any major waterway in the NE at the moment and fill a trash bag in a few hours. Much easier than cultivation imo. Just stay at it, once you find them you'll wonder how you missed them for so long.
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: donjonson420]
#26653088 - 05/06/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm really bummed out. I've searched until my eyeballs are sore and haven't found a single one. I know I'm in the right habitat---riparian areas near a large creek, particularly populated by box elder trees and places close to the creek that flood occasionally. About 20 miles East of me is Red River Gorge, and they've been found there, so they ought to be where I'm looking. I'm about to give up.
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: donjonson420]
#26653119 - 05/06/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for the encouragement, Don. It's only May 6th so I'm definitely not going to be giving up until at least the end of the month. You hinted at what might be my problem. I've been looking next to relatively small creeks and streams. But I think I'll actually try to find some places along the Delaware and Schuylkill rivers.
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donjonson420
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: Jay Teigh]
#26653131 - 05/06/20 03:04 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Jay Teigh said: I'm really bummed out. I've searched until my eyeballs are sore and haven't found a single one. I know I'm in the right habitat---riparian areas near a large creek, particularly populated by box elder trees and places close to the creek that flood occasionally. About 20 miles East of me is Red River Gorge, and they've been found there, so they ought to be where I'm looking. I'm about to give up. 
I looked that area up and it doesn't look that promising for beginners. They're likely there in certain stretch's but harder to find. You should stay directly alongside the larger Kentucky River or Ohio River. Go to one of the parks that have trails directly alongside these rivers and you should have no problems finding them.
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: Jay Teigh]
#26653156 - 05/06/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Jay Teigh said: I'm really bummed out. I've searched until my eyeballs are sore and haven't found a single one. I know I'm in the right habitat---riparian areas near a large creek, particularly populated by box elder trees and places close to the creek that flood occasionally. About 20 miles East of me is Red River Gorge, and they've been found there, so they ought to be where I'm looking. I'm about to give up. 
If only you were closer to my side of Kentucky.
I know right where they grow, but have no ride to get at em
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: donjonson420]
#26653162 - 05/06/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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donjonson420 said:
You could venture out to almost any major waterway in the NE at the moment and fill a trash bag in a few hours. Much easier than cultivation imo. Just stay at it, once you find them you'll wonder how you missed them for so long.
A bit of an exaggeration...I'm sure your area's are packed, but have you ever hunted them in NY?
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Re: East coast 2020 ovoideocystidiata season! [Re: sbkn]
#26653195 - 05/06/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've never hunted them personally in NY. New Yorks a large state, Where abouts have you been looking? I've seen a few Inat observations from New York already so they're definitely already in season.
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