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Medicaly needed fast tek help
    #26470864 - 02/05/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I need shrooms medicaly my life is a roller coaster without them. Im uk and my guys disappeared so im left to grow myself ....

I did rye jar last time took 3 weeks to go white.

I then dropped it into 50/50 verm coir bag.
And i covered it black as the guide said... 1 week on it stil looked like coir no colonising

So left it uncovered and it started colonising but half ways thru almost 2 weeks on giant fuzzy mould took over and wiped out the myc without any fruiting .


I saved a small piece in a little tub and got some small mushrooms like microscopic but not big enough to get a viable clean sample from for agar tek.

I have my agar lab set up now all ready and waiting for a shroom fruited body and il be away oat tek with bods.

But reading mixed review and having a fail or 2 i want ti ask what i did wrong or what tek will get me fruited fast ibsee people daying 3days colinised and 1 week later fruiting harvest wtf.

What can i do.

Ive got a preassurecooker ii cook everything
I have 3ml of golden teachers left i dont wana waste .......

Ive got a sack of rye/oats/brown rice /wild bird seed . And can get anything recomended.

Sick of messing up trying to bulk. I dont wana do brf it works but takes forever with cakes


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Re: Medicaly needed fast tek help [Re: drgreen89]
    #26470945 - 02/05/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It's impossible to say for sure where you fucked up, but pretty much every spore syringe is dirty to begin with. Fast and clean are polar opposites when it comes to mycology. Most people reporting fast colonization times have isolated fast growing genetics with clean inoculation.

3ml is quite a lot of spore suspension, enough to do a dozen or more BRF cakes, or dozens of agar plates. If you NEED bodies ASAP and consistently, take a mixed approach to try and isolate your contamination vectors.

You can take a shotgun approach to hedge your bets. Spread out 1ml across a dozen agar plates so you can start cleaning up your stock and isolating genetics. Take 1ml to 4 brf cakes as insurance. Take the last ml and split it between a few jars of grain to possibly get a tub flushing in about a month. By that time the cakes will be colonized, and you'll be on upwards of your third agar transfer, with potentially hundreds of agar plates, so you should be about ready for agar to grain. When the syringe is down to its last drop fill it back up with cold sterilized water, just in case.


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Re: Medicaly needed fast tek help [Re: Barrel] * 2
    #26470963 - 02/05/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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It's impossible to say for sure where you fucked up, but pretty much every spore syringe is dirty to begin with.




Its not impossible, you were correct on the second part though.

You cannot get in a hurry to get this done OP. It takes time, skill, and patience to do it right. The fact that you are injecting spores to grain is your problem. You need to come to terms with doing cakes, and set up some timing to provide you with what you need, or you need to learn agar. If this process was both Easy AND Fast, then everyone would be doing it.


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Re: Medicaly needed fast tek help [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #26471023 - 02/05/20 08:06 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

IMO cakes are the fastest but you're still looking at four weeks minimum before first harvest. More realistically five or six.


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Re: Medicaly needed fast tek help [Re: Sir Pentinite]
    #26471144 - 02/05/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Have to agree with the above mentioned posts. I can't speak for others, but I do not grow for the shrooms, I grow for the experience of growing. If your end result is mushrooms for consumption you might try the dark webs. If your end result is to learn and enjoy the process and take your time (and make friends) this is the place for you.


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Re: Medicaly needed fast tek help [Re: Sockadin]
    #26471175 - 02/05/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Drgreen
Im not super familiar with Uk but im sure there are actives growing within 10 miles of your home.
Might take a little research and a some searching but it could be a quick solution to your problem.


Goodluck!


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Re: Medicaly needed fast tek help [Re: Sir Pentinite]
    #26471264 - 02/05/20 11:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Sir Pentinite said:
IMO cakes are the fastest but you're still looking at four weeks minimum before first harvest. More realistically five or six.




this. this would be my recommendation on a "fast" "consistant" grow. but again taking the time to learn agar and grain work will work wonders.

a few tips, dont put all your eggs in one basket(have multiple grows at once) and
keep your grows consistant(once u empty jars, refill them so u have another in a few weeks time)

Once you start, and learn you will have an unending supply... just know this hobby takes alot of time and even more patience


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Re: Medicaly needed fast tek help [Re: numnum59]
    #26471478 - 02/06/20 05:25 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If you just need em for your head get some PF cakes going. Then you can take prints and clones and try your hand at growing bulk. But first things first get your mush and feed your head.


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Re: Medicaly needed fast tek help [Re: Bph]
    #26472157 - 02/06/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Ive had many brf cakes work out in the past ibthink a lil outa touch as i used spawn bags this time thinking it easyer but jars seems to be the way for me that worked before. So im on jars with ports again.

Everything went great until i spawned to the bulk sub i pasturised i wish i stuck it in the pc now
Im sure that and can ya confirm... when u spawn bulk do u keep in the dark or indirect light... being as a coir layers ontop anyway ?

Cause i sware the indirect light as i opened the black bag was when it started colonising already too late as contams were on the coir top layer.

The golf ball i stole from the bottom clean fruited in a jar mushrooms smaller than a cress plant due to low food etc i wish i had just g2g it now was hopefuly waiting for my agar to arrive a say too late as it went mushy gross then i didnt wana agar anything off it.

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Medicaly i need shrooms for a number of reasons. 1 being ptsd caused auto immune responce and now i suffer auto immune problems bad eg psoriasis etc.
My science research long story short. Is cortisol over released with stress supressing seratonin creating overactive hyperthalamus thus surpressing digestion and seratonin and othr horomes big loop and a blockage in my liver.

Shrooms replace seratonin and takebmt anxiety away and stress for months stop the suisidal thaughts they also slow the hyperthalamus down allowing it tobregulate hormones and the release of seratonin and while i take them.... ive gone from bleeding skin lokking like futuramas zoidberg to almost normal in 6month after 3years suffering.
Drs told me i was nuts... but i am healing and im outa shrooms now so ye i guess im struggling a little to concentrate also

Dont trust dark webs lol and i cant find anyone local with an agar plate as shrooms seems a taboo here in uk. Are u able to buy swap agar plates in uk? That wud speed stuff up eh lol

Ive got me oats n rye n il make some brf up. And cold fill blast whatever els i got left just incase lol even a drip in an agar plate ????


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Re: Medicaly needed fast tek help [Re: drgreen89]
    #26472301 - 02/06/20 03:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If you need to grow them fast and are in the UK you could order a grow kit with pre grown mycelium from a Shroomery sponsor. That would be short term unless you take clones to agar and do expansion from that.


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Re: Medicaly needed fast tek help [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26472322 - 02/06/20 04:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Are you mentally addicted to psilocybin or is it for cluster headaches? If you just “need” mushrooms to get through your daily life you need to take a looonnnggg break, like at least a year or two.

If it’s for cluster headaches I would go with the PF tek route and follow it exactly. If you fucked up it was on you, which may sound harsh but all that really means is if you change your methodology you’ll succeed. Changing your methodology should consist of following the exact directions of a shroomery tek, not a kit manual.


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Re: Medicaly needed fast tek help [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26472427 - 02/06/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I’m pretty sure pre colonized kits are legal in a lot of Europe.

I’ve been saying it a lot lately but ime wbs to coir shoebox is the quickest and easiest way, I think it should be the beginner method instead of pf.

With a top layer of coir at spawn it’s super forgiving of bad conditions and with even just ok conditions needs virtually no maintenance, plus you end up with so much more mushroom.

Cakes have a much steeper learning curve.


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Re: Medicaly needed fast tek help [Re: A.k.a]
    #26472439 - 02/06/20 05:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

No way addicted a trip lasts me 3 months relief

Trust me i no way abuse these lol ny mother has cured migranes with them.

And i have cured my medical problems but 2 or 3 month after a dose when i feel flutters return in my chest and thaights.... i take a dose.. and im safe now ive ran out im at 7 month. My skin is 80% covered in legions it ripps when i make a fist.
My stress levels are uncontrollable and leave me where a nock at the door can cause me to collapse..

This never ever happens after a dose i can go out go to town i can do things and it takes 4 mo ths for my skin to start clearingf up again

Its amazing beats all the immune system blockers steroids and biologics they want me to take and with the side effects from heart attak to cancer and constant flues il choose shrooms lol.


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Re: Medicaly needed fast tek help [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #26472442 - 02/06/20 05:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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It's impossible to say for sure where you fucked up, but pretty much every spore syringe is dirty to begin with.




Its not impossible, you were correct on the second part though.

You cannot get in a hurry to get this done OP. It takes time, skill, and patience to do it right. The fact that you are injecting spores to grain is your problem. You need to come to terms with doing cakes, and set up some timing to provide you with what you need, or you need to learn agar. If this process was both Easy AND Fast, then everyone would be doing it.





Yo i jave found some life.... ia it viable for g2g or that lil shroom to scalpel??
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