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Re: Is 5g too much for my next trip? [Re: KD-Grows] * 1
    #26478300 - 02/10/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm curious if you have any elaboration on how you think I've "found a pretty nice relationship" with them? I agree, but don't understand the contrasting side yet, and I guess I'm curious about what differences you see between my experiences and other types, mostly because I know I will end up introducing loved ones to these, and maybe it'd be helpful to understand how others sometimes experience these (in less "nice" ways?).





I think there are a number of reasons some people may have adversities to it, or any substance so thoroughly mind-altering. But the two I can think of most prominently:

Those who like to be in full control of their actions and thoughts will find a lot of difficulty with psychedelics. Letting go of the power over yourself is no small feat, and it's really not something that can be fully compared to a captain/passenger relationship. You're abandoning something that most people are used to being in complete control of no matter the situation they're in.
Tim may get anxious from time to time when he's on a plane. but he's still Tim on a plane. Tim on psychedelics is.... more or less. All or none or somewhere between. But he doesn't really have say in where that will be, especially if he tries to control it.

And then there's the other spectrum - I, myself, fell into this and it lead to very difficult times for me.
Those who use it as an escape. A numbing of reality. Somewhere you can go to hide from the things that you don't want to think about or confront.
The thing about psychedelics is that they'll make you confront those things in every possible reality. By taking away that power over self, they take away any walls you can put up - they don't let you ignore anything.

There's other things like naivety or a certain innocence in the fun it all that can make you kind of unprepared for things that may blindside you.
Because, let's face it, a lot of the psychedelic experience is just super fun experiencing hallucinations and altered reality and riding out a wonderful body high. It feels fantastic like nothing else.
But there's that spirituality to it, no matter who you are or what you believe in. It has a way of disconnecting you to a more spiritual or other-conscious universe that you may not be expecting and may not be ready for.
It confronts your yang with your yin or your yin with your yang. And when you have a very tiny spot of yin or yang and a very large spot of yang or yin and - suddenly - they're reversed... it can be alarming and difficult.


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Re: Is 5g too much for my next trip? [Re: footpath] * 1
    #26478433 - 02/10/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

That all makes perfect sense, thanks, footpath. I guess perhaps I'm fortunate that I made the mistake of escapism through drugs for a long time with alcohol and eventually marijuana, but ended that chapter before I discovered psychedelics. I can see how psychedelic experiences could be unpleasant if you were trying to escape, rather than confront, the pain.

Also, "letting go of the power over yourself is no small feat" rang true and I think will help me keep in mind what kind of things people I introduce mushrooms to might benefit from hearing before they trip.


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Re: Is 5g too much for my next trip? [Re: KD-Grows] * 1
    #26478482 - 02/10/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

For sure.
I think that's probably the most unanimous piece of advice from most of those seasoned in psychedelic use - let go.
It is, of course, a bit of daunting idea to convince yourself of all the time.

Many people seem to have their own kind of mantra to keep them feeling okay with letting go leading up to or in the thick of their experiences - mine, because I used to fear for my body and my critical functions when I would take high doses, was: 'it comes with your body.'
With the intention being that, no matter what, if things get hectic and you're having a hard time succumbing to the experience, your body will ultimately take you safely back to reality.
Just like if you focus too much on your blinking or breathing and it becomes hard to make them rhythmic, so too can letting go during a trip become difficult if you fight it. But if you just let your body do its thing and let your mind go elsewhere... everything syncopates.


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