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Re: Gymnopileus ID and allergic reaction Help Please [Re: breeg89] 1
#26467577 - 02/03/20 09:13 PM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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Holy shit Munch! I'm glad you're okay buddy!
I've been in the hospital with anaphylaxis before and it's god damn terrifying. Now that you know you react to things it's not a bad idea to carry an epi-pen if you can get a hold of one. I like to have one around just in case of anything, for me or other people.
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Re: Gymnopileus ID and allergic reaction Help Please [Re: MadMuncher] 2
#26467834 - 02/04/20 02:12 AM (4 years, 13 days ago) |
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MadMuncher said: ill tell you a secret the mushrooms told me:
they like people because they like dead things
Yeah, we certainly leave a trail for a variety of scavengers behind us.
It also reminds me of this picture I took several years ago, in a recently laid cemetary:
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Re: Gymnopileus ID and allergic reaction Help Please [Re: Anglerfish]
#26468071 - 02/04/20 08:18 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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If that was new I'd be nominating you for pic of the month.
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Re: Gymnopileus ID and allergic reaction Help Please [Re: Mr Piggy]
#26469118 - 02/04/20 07:32 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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There's something sort of haunting about that pic angler.
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Re: Gymnopileus ID and allergic reaction Help Please [Re: breeg89]
#26469154 - 02/04/20 07:52 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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breeg89 said: There's something sort of haunting about that pic angler.
I think its beautiful, shows the life of death
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Re: Gymnopileus ID and allergic reaction Help Please [Re: bloodycarcass]
#26469844 - 02/05/20 08:22 AM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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breeg89 said: There's something sort of haunting about that pic angler.
I think its beautiful, shows the life of death
The fact is that there's a sheep field right next to it, which invariable yields quite a bit of liberty caps. The part of the cemetary where I find them is a less than ten year old expansion of an already old graveyard. There are very little or no libs found in the older parts, whereas the new one has produced quite an abundance in the last six to seven years.
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Re: Gymnopileus ID and allergic reaction Help Please [Re: Anglerfish]
#26470030 - 02/05/20 10:31 AM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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do you think that they are allowing the sheep to graze in the newest section and that's why you are finding liberty caps?
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Re: Gymnopileus ID and allergic reaction Help Please [Re: Doc9151]
#26470104 - 02/05/20 11:14 AM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Doc9151 said: do you think that they are allowing the sheep to graze in the newest section and that's why you are finding liberty caps?
They definitely don't do that, the sheep are confined to their field by fencing. Actually, there was a news report just days ago from that very same cemetery where deer had entered in the early morning and eaten the flower wreaths adorning a fresh grave and generally made a mess, which made people very upset. Now sheep aren't deer but I don't think they'd stay away from those flowers either.
I believe the mushrooms have grown there basically because the newly laid lawns were full of the right nutrients, and the spores had a short way to travel.
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Re: Gymnopileus ID and allergic reaction Help Please [Re: Anglerfish]
#26470126 - 02/05/20 11:24 AM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Anglerfish said:
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Doc9151 said: do you think that they are allowing the sheep to graze in the newest section and that's why you are finding liberty caps?
They definitely don't do that, the sheep are confined to their field by fencing. Actually, there was a news report just days ago from that very same cemetery where deer had entered in the early morning and eaten the flower wreaths adorning a fresh grave and generally made a mess, which made people very upset. Now sheep aren't deer but I don't think they'd stay away from those flowers either.
I believe the mushrooms have grown their basically because the newly laid lawns were full of the right nutrients, and the spores had a short way to travel.
makes sense, unfortunately, I haven't had the luxury of hunting libs, but hopefully it will change soon and I will be able to do some liberty caps hunts when I go visit my daughter up North.
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Re: Gymnopileus ID and allergic reaction Help Please [Re: Doc9151]
#26470138 - 02/05/20 11:36 AM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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My shellfish allergy came out of the blue, had been eating it a few times a week and then one day suddenly Iām having a hard time breathing, itchy hives all over. Felt like a panic attack. Spent the night in the bathroom with the shower running trying to open up my airways. Later that weeks went to the doc and tested positive for shellfish and treenuts.
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Re: Gymnopileus ID and allergic reaction Help Please [Re: D3_Myc]
#26470142 - 02/05/20 11:39 AM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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D3monic said: My shellfish allergy came out of the blue, had been eating it a few times a week and then one day suddenly Iām having a hard time breathing, itchy hives all over. Felt like a panic attack. Spent the night in the bathroom with the shower running trying to open up my airways. Later that weeks went to the doc and tested positive for shellfish and treenuts.
That's not very common, but anytime we try something new. we never know how we will react and sometimes it takes several exposures. The faster symptoms appear the more sensitive you are and sensitivity can change after each exposure.
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Re: Gymnopileus ID and allergic reaction Help Please [Re: D3_Myc]
#26470152 - 02/05/20 11:44 AM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Damn that sucks i hope the OP is okay ive never tried gyms because they are hard for me to distinguish between the poisonous look alikes... ive heard that its not the first time your develop allergic reactions but the second time. @doc you dont think this could be a reaction because the mushroom is a wood lover? Or maybe a chance of the mushrooms pulling something out of the wood it is growing out of? Ive read you shouldnt eat mushrooms that grow on yelms and other trees that are poisonous.
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Re: Gymnopileus ID and allergic reaction Help Please [Re: Bilever]
#26470351 - 02/05/20 01:46 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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never tried any before these either for same reasons. never confident enough or worth the risk until i saw these. plus almost always find galerina very near sometimes popping up right in between clusters that look nearly identical to the smaller fruits at first glance. everytime i saw them while picking i would throw 1 galerina in the bag to make sure i could pick out any lookalikes. training the eyes. they can be so hard to identify depending on what theyre growing on, the bigger the log the larger the fruits, the same species on wood debris only gets maybe 4 inches tall. ive seen all kinds of gymns all over the country but ive never seen any blueing that even compares to these. the smell and "feel" when your picking them is like caressing moist psilocybe. as soon as i see them it triggers the same alarm as psilocybe (you know that facial recogniztion thing that happens its like seeing your mother [yikes] would really love to see scans of my brain when im in my patches
really hoping its not something to do with woodlovers in general try some other species soon. gymns never again but thats ok i love giving stuff away. theres enough on that one river to keep a small community college high for a semester or two
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Re: Gymnopileus ID and allergic reaction Help Please [Re: MadMuncher]
#26470549 - 02/05/20 03:51 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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I can't remember when or where, but I remember reading or hearing about this French chef that had been chopping craploads of buttons over a long period of time and suddenly got an anaphylactic shock, luckily he apparently came out okay, but had to refrain from touching mushrooms ever again.
Now that sucks big time, if it's actually true.
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Re: Gymnopileus ID and allergic reaction Help Please [Re: Anglerfish]
#26470673 - 02/05/20 04:47 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Anytime we try something new, especially the 1st time, we should only eat a small amount until we know that we are not going to have any reaction. That was stressed alot when I went through Navy sere school.
Most people that don't have allergies don't even think about what they eat most of the time, but you never know what you may be allergic too or have othersymptoms. .
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