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Re: Santa Cruz City Council Votes To Decriminalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: viraldrome]
#26469835 - 02/05/20 08:12 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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North America it will be all taxes and greed and stupid rules.
That's just business.
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Re: Santa Cruz City Council Votes To Decriminalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: tyrannicalrex] 2
#26470151 - 02/05/20 11:44 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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I totally disagree that regulation does NO good, without regulation any idiot can add whatever they want to their product, just like the dumbasses using vitamin e to cut their thc oil poisoning people.
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Re: Santa Cruz City Council Votes To Decriminalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Doc9151]
#26470184 - 02/05/20 12:04 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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I agree with that.
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Re: Santa Cruz City Council Votes To Decriminalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26470649 - 02/05/20 04:37 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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I believe that you are talking about over regulation, like we currently have in every state with medical marijuana.
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Re: Santa Cruz City Council Votes To Decriminalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Doc9151] 1
#26470786 - 02/05/20 05:38 PM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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I personally think the whole of entheogenic plants should just be taken off any schedule and be allowed to be grown at home, completely decriminalize all of them and mushrooms too.
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Re: Santa Cruz City Council Votes To Decriminalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: sonoramo]
#26471166 - 02/05/20 09:54 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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"Denver, Colorado became the first city in the country to decriminalize the psychedelic plants."
Denver always leads the way, great city to live in during my times there. Calling mushrooms psychedelic plants is idiotic.
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Re: Santa Cruz City Council Votes To Decriminalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Barnaby]
#26472213 - 02/06/20 02:51 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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Barnaby said: Calling mushrooms psychedelic plants is idiotic.
Mushrooms are not plants, but treating psychedelic plants and mushrooms like plants and mushrooms instead of drugs is a great idea. The public can get behind legalizing nature a whole lot more easily than they will get behind legalizing drugs grown in labs.
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viraldrome said: My experience with cannabis in canada is the legalization of it ruined it. As soon as you start talking about regulating it and putting it in stores you have to all of a sudden start listening to every idiot's opinion, even people that don't use the substances.
If my government limits THC levels of extracts and edibles it stands to reason they will drop some kind of nonsense like that on shrooms
A big difference between Cannabis and shrooms is that there's a whole lot more money in Cannabis. People won't buy mushrooms nearly as often - A lot of the problems with Cannabis are disputes over money.
I do think anything that people consume should be regulated - Food is regulated so people don't sell dangerous food, and medicines and drugs should be the same. Of course you can still grow food at home if you want, as it should be with plants and drugs....But for sale there should be a bit of regulation. I would also be happy with decriminalization, which gets the government out of it entirely. But that doesn't give access to doctors and drug treatment facilities, and I think that doctors and rehab centers should have easy access to psilocybin and other plant medicines.
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Re: Santa Cruz City Council Votes To Decriminalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: viraldrome] 1
#26472324 - 02/06/20 04:02 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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viraldrome said: My experience with cannabis in canada is the legalization of it ruined it. As soon as you start talking about regulating it and putting it in stores you have to all of a sudden start listening to every idiot's opinion, even people that don't use the substances.
If my government limits THC levels of extracts and edibles it stands to reason they will drop some kind of nonsense like that on shrooms, like diluted micro dosing will be legal but buying an eighth of shrooms will not. Nothing good comes from regulation. Regulation is to make anti drug people happy, it's never ever for us, for users benefit. And big business will rape us on prices, and taxes will make it even worse. Free to grow/use/trade/give away is better than storefronts. The smartshop model works in Netherlands but North America it will be all taxes and greed and stupid rules.
I'm having trouble grasping what point you(and some others here) are trying to make..."I have an(irrational and ignorant) fear of regulation, so lets keep everything illegal"...or "The products that will be made available, and the way they are distributed, isn't to my likin, so let's keep it all illegal" ???
None of the potential outcomes mentioned, by you, me, or anyone else, will prevent you from doing what you like at home...your point is basically that if legalization/medical adoption doesn't happen on your terms that you don't want it to be available for everyone else...you are making no sense at all.
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Re: Santa Cruz City Council Votes To Decriminalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Holybullshit] 1
#26472535 - 02/06/20 06:33 PM (4 years, 11 days ago) |
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A lot of Cannabis people wish that weed was still illegal, which seems really immoral to me - they want thousands of people to sit in jail for nothing so the black market would keep propping up their profits.
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Re: Santa Cruz City Council Votes To Decriminalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#26472818 - 02/06/20 08:52 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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I agree. Amazing to me how conditioned and ignorant most are about it. IT IS ALL DRUGS! No, no it is not.
People are starting to get Marijuana is OK and not the same schedule one as other "drugs". Glad to see people are starting to wake up from ignorance in some of the states here.
Utah and the South will be the last of them but at least there is some progress being made. Makes me laugh.
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Re: Santa Cruz City Council Votes To Decriminalize Magic Mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#26473013 - 02/06/20 10:22 PM (4 years, 10 days ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: A lot of Cannabis people wish that weed was still illegal, which seems really immoral to me - they want thousands of people to sit in jail for nothing so the black market would keep propping up their profits.
https://www.kcra.com/article/illegal-pot-sales-outpace-legal-cannabis-in-california/29851230
Taxes and regulations
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