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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26468443 - 02/04/20 12:30 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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Richest 1% now owns half the world's wealth




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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador] * 1
    #26468453 - 02/04/20 12:34 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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The question isn’t whether it’s normal or ethical or w.e... He said no one would be better off without Amazon

Is hating on other poasters all you’re capable of?





I understand what his point was, but his attempts to rationalize all of it is what got me.
I wouldn't have to "hate on poasters" if people used a little more sense from time to time.  Who's puppet are you, and how did you get your permaban reversed?




Well, it was reversed because it was the result of hating by “an overzealous user”, as per ythan.

But I apologize - I thought the hate was directed toward me cause I offended Jeff Bezos or smthn...

Sorry bud


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador] * 1
    #26468458 - 02/04/20 12:37 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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Money is infinite.... resources are not.




That's why we all need to prop up yet another billionaire, Elon Musk. That man is going to take us to where the resources are unlimited, space.



It would be nice if we just fixed up here instead of leaving a streak of fucked up shit across the universe.

Let that be a lesson, people would rather run across the universe fucking shit up as opposed to making a simple change inside themselves and their behavior...


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: Amanita86] * 2
    #26468460 - 02/04/20 12:39 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

global warming is so 2010. It’s all about inter-galactic pollution now.


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador] * 1
    #26468462 - 02/04/20 12:39 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

There’s no sane argument that can justify one person having a billion times more money than someone else. You can use all the fancy economic theories you want but if a man is down to his final dollar Bezos has 129 billion times as much money. It’s as simple as that and it’s as airtight as that.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26468467 - 02/04/20 12:41 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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TheFakeSunRa said:
There’s no sane argument that can justify one person having a billion times more money than someone else. You can use all the fancy economic theories you want but if a man is down to his final dollar Bezos has 129 billion times as much money. It’s as simple as that and it’s as airtight as that.



“All the fancy economic theories” agree with you though. They’re just misrepresented so often that people confuse legit economics with agenda-driven rhetoric.


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26468477 - 02/04/20 12:49 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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Amanita86 said:
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Money is infinite.... resources are not.




That's why we all need to prop up yet another billionaire, Elon Musk. That man is going to take us to where the resources are unlimited, space.



It would be nice if we just fixed up here instead of leaving a streak of fucked up shit across the universe.

Let that be a lesson, people would rather run across the universe fucking shit up as opposed to making a simple change inside themselves and their behavior...




It would be nice
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TheFakeSunRa said:
There’s no sane argument that can justify one person having a billion times more money than someone else. You can use all the fancy economic theories you want but if a man is down to his final dollar Bezos has 129 billion times as much money. It’s as simple as that and it’s as airtight as that.




So we're morally flexible then? Is it ok to steal from someone who has what you arbitrarily deem to be too much money?

It is arbitrary because he just so happens to have $127 B right now as were discussing this.

This moral issue is what I've been closing in on here.


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
    #26468479 - 02/04/20 12:51 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

It’s more than he can spend in a lifetime. If he WAS spending a few million each day, that’d be fine. It’s the hoarding that shrinks the economy.


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: feldman114]
    #26468485 - 02/04/20 12:55 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

So it is ok to be mega-rich, but poor people should be able to dictate how the mega rich spend their money, arbitrarily?

Edit** Or shouldn't the mega rich be able to decide for themselves (just like normal folks) how and when they're going to spend their loot?

Or if they even spend it at all?


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: feldman114]
    #26468491 - 02/04/20 12:57 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

Taxation is not theft

Property is theft


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
    #26468496 - 02/04/20 01:00 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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susurrador said:
So it is ok to be mega-rich, but poor people should be able to dictate how the mega rich spend their money, arbitrarily?



Jesus...what?

My spending doesn’t dramatically affect other people’s livelihood. Jeff’s does. How can you possibly compare him to working class folk?


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: feldman114] * 1
    #26468500 - 02/04/20 01:02 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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feldman114 said:
Well, it was reversed because it was the result of hating by “an overzealous user”, as per ythan.

But I apologize - I thought the hate was directed toward me cause I offended Jeff Bezos or smthn...

Sorry bud






Oh shit...was it me that reported you?  I apologize for that if so, but in my defense you did dare me to try.  Figured you were one of the many puppet accounts popping up around that time.  Usually I'm not serious when I say I reported someone so I couldn't remember if I actually had or not. 

I can be a little overzealous when I'm drinking, but it's all fun and games.  I've been enjoying your posts lately, and I'm glad the ban was reversed.


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26468502 - 02/04/20 01:03 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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There’s not an infinite amount of money so therefore every dollar Bezos has is a dollar someone else doesn’t have.




Not true. Money can and will expand and expand infinitely because we will never run out of ways to add more and more value to the things we buy and sell with money.




ok

For anyone else just think about it. Is there a finite amount of money or an infinite amount of money?

If you think the total amount of money is infinity dollars we have no framework for a discussion because you’re starting from an absurd and impossible premise.

If you accept the FACT that there is indeed a finite amount of money then the problem of a small number of people having a large percentage of the money should be self-explanatory. Even my dog understands that if another dog is eating a steak then that means she’s NOT eating that steak.



Money is a placeholder for value. Money is finite at any given time but it's not fixed. So in this way it's infinite because it can always grow. If it grows faster than value that's inflation you could have millions and not be able to buy a loaf of bread. If value gets added its really easy to print more money. Your idea of a finite amount of dollars doesn't work though.

Everyone could be billionaires and we could all drive fast cars. If we created enough value for everyone. Money doesn't create value. If you give people with shit skills more money eventually the economy will correct itself they'll go back to being broke in comparison to everyone else. You can't fix people with monetary policy.

If you fight for 15/hr and get it then still do 7$ an hour work 15 turns into the new 7 because you didn't magically add 8 dollars of value per hour extra to your work ethic. Prices go up and you end up worse off than before because people with skills and intelligence will squeeze your new money sponge even harder because they got pissed off they had to pay you more than your worth




Fuck yeah. Didn't see this earlier. Exactly.


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: feldman114]
    #26468513 - 02/04/20 01:13 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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feldman114 said:
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So it is ok to be mega-rich, but poor people should be able to dictate how the mega rich spend their money, arbitrarily?



Jesus...what?

My spending doesn’t dramatically affect other people’s livelihood. Jeff’s does. How can you possibly compare him to working class folk?




I'm comparing humans to humans. That's the whole point here. Wealthy folks are assigned additional moral responsibility beyond that which a more average person is. And I'm just saying if everyone would hold themselves to the same additional moral responsibilities that they are pushing on the wealthy.... I think we'd all be taking much better care of each other and ourselves instead of just playing eat the rich on repeat.

Edit** :micdrop:


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
    #26468515 - 02/04/20 01:17 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

the only income I have access to is my monthly SSDI deposit for schizoaffective disorder


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
    #26468542 - 02/04/20 01:36 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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susurrador said:
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feldman114 said:
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susurrador said:
So it is ok to be mega-rich, but poor people should be able to dictate how the mega rich spend their money, arbitrarily?



Jesus...what?

My spending doesn’t dramatically affect other people’s livelihood. Jeff’s does. How can you possibly compare him to working class folk?




I'm comparing humans to humans. That's the whole point here. Wealthy folks are assigned additional moral responsibility beyond that which a more average person is. And I'm just saying if everyone would hold themselves to the same additional moral responsibilities that they are pushing on the wealthy.... I think we'd all be taking much better care of each other and ourselves instead of just playing eat the rich on repeat.

Edit** :micdrop:




Haha yeah, once the small folk stop being so immoral we’ll make as much as the holy billionaires, right? Deplorable, the lot of us.

My moral standards dictate I do whatever I want BUT ONLY as long as it doesn’t hurt others. Jeff’s hoarding spending habits are hurting millions.

Pick your mic back up, sell it and get yourself a shiny new grip on reality, my friend.


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: feldman114]
    #26468570 - 02/04/20 01:57 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

You can make billions as soon as you come up with something worth billions. :shrug: Small folk or not.

And you don't even have to act morally for that to happen either.

No one said billionaires are holy. I actually don't believe at all they are Holy and therefore should not be tasked with mandatory solving of the world's problems with their personal bankroll, as though they were the saviors or some shit... yes even if that bankroll is in the billions


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: feldman114]
    #26468577 - 02/04/20 02:02 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

Its not like he has that money on his personal bank account

Its the company value that he owns many shares off. It is possible to be extremely wealthy and have no actual money


Not saying the guy is poor or anything


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26468593 - 02/04/20 02:12 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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Tripsurfer said:
Its not like he has that money on his personal bank account

Its the company value that he owns many shares off. It is possible to be extremely wealthy and have no actual money


Not saying the guy is poor or anything



You think Amazon is valued at 129b?

It’s not, but if you thought it was I understand your thinking.
Anyway, yeah, the 129B is, in fact, Jeff’s net worth. Amazon is worth almost a trillion....


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
    #26468596 - 02/04/20 02:14 PM (4 years, 13 days ago)

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You can make billions as soon as you come up with something worth billions. :shrug: Small folk or not.

And you don't even have to act morally for that to happen either.

No one said billionaires are holy. I actually don't believe at all they are Holy and therefore should not be tasked with mandatory solving of the world's problems with their personal bankroll, as though they were the saviors or some shit... yes even if that bankroll is in the billions




It’s more difficult for me to move up from the working class. Amazon is directly responsible for that. I can’t open a small e-commerce business, anymore than you can start a successful cola company.


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