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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: JohnRainyII] * 2
    #26478064 - 02/10/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Here’s a visual representation of the precinct errors in Iowa, and who was undercounted and overcounted:





Pretty obvious here that BY SHEER COINCIDENCE Bernie’s totals were undercounted the most and Pete’s numbers were overcounted the most.

Then the cherry on top is that despite receiving a fraction of a percent more SDE’s, Pete somehow nets 17% more national delegates. This is what a rigged game looks like folks.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26478079 - 02/10/20 07:49 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Rigged?  Why would they rig anything in favor of Mayor Pete?


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26478146 - 02/10/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Rigged?  Why would they rig anything in favor of Mayor Pete?




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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #26478150 - 02/10/20 09:01 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It's a fair question.  What possible reason would they have to choose Mayor Pete, of all possibilities?


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #26478165 - 02/10/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

To depress Bernie’s delegate count and momentum in an attempt to prevent him from winning 51% of delegates, which would ensure a Sanders nomination on the first ballot. They’ve been pretty explicit about this.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #26478167 - 02/10/20 09:14 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The DNC sees in Pete what the NYT sees In Amy Klobuchar: a hollow husk they can repurpose to try to keep Sanders’ campaign from emerging as the clear frontrunner.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26478175 - 02/10/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

And how would that benefit the DNC?


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Enlil] * 3
    #26478181 - 02/10/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

They get to keep their jobs instead of being swept out into the street with the other garbage


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Enlil]
    #26478183 - 02/10/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

But Petey has no real chance past NH. He made history as the first openly alphabet person to win Iowa, which is cool. But there’s just no way he’ll get anywhere near those numbers anywhere else.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Enlil] * 4
    #26478186 - 02/10/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Stopping Sanders? I mean, the Democrats have existed as a bulwark against left populism for some time now. Whether they’re trying to protect their corporate donors, trying to protect their own gravy train, or just stopping Bernie out of spite for making them look bad, it’s probably some combination of all that.

We know for a fact from Wikileaks dumps that Tom Perez himself worked to diminish Sanders at the behest of Hillary in 2016 (the same Tom Perez that Obama inserted into the DNC chair race to prevent Keith Ellison from winning).


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26478188 - 02/10/20 09:25 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So, if Bernie gets the nomination, DNC employees get fired?  Do you have anything to support this theory?


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26478189 - 02/10/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I can’t really answer your question without you telling me what you think the motives and/or purpose of the DNC is.

Depending on your perspective, Trump winning in 2016 “helped” the DNC.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26478196 - 02/10/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The clear purpose of the DNC is to maximize the efficacy of the campaigns of democratic nominees.

Do you see a different purpose?


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26478204 - 02/10/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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So, if Bernie gets the nomination, DNC employees get fired?  Do you have anything to support this theory?




Are you being deliberately obtuse? Of course Bernie isn’t going to fire everyone at the DNC as soon as he takes the stage in Milwaukee, it’s slightly more complicated than that. But the circular gravy train of corporate donors and fat consultancy contracts (like the morons who made the app for Iowa who just happened to be run by a Dem megadonor) would diminish, if not cease completely. They’re trying to protect their own money because protecting corporate money is the only way they get those checks in the first place.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26478207 - 02/10/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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The clear purpose of the DNC is to maximize the efficacy of the campaigns of democratic nominees.






Lol no. They’re literally blacklisting vendors who dare to work for progressive primary challengers. Come on, you’re too smart to be as naive as koods.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26478209 - 02/10/20 09:33 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Lol, you think corporate donors are going to disappear?  Bernie will become president and all of a sudden, corporations will stop trying to influence elections?

Wow, dude.  I didn't realize how much you idolize your new messiah.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26478211 - 02/10/20 09:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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The clear purpose of the DNC is to maximize the efficacy of the campaigns of democratic nominees.






Lol no. They’re literally blacklisting vendors who dare to work for progressive primary challengers. Come on, you’re too smart to be as naive as koods.



This is starting to sound like :tinfoil: nonsense.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Enlil] * 4
    #26478216 - 02/10/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26478217 - 02/10/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Next you’re gonna tell me the DCCC is wholly independent of the DNC


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Enlil]
    #26478223 - 02/10/20 09:38 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

No, I'm going to tell you that "people challenging incumbents" and "progressives" are not synonyms.  Of course they're going to try to discourage people from unseating democrats.  That lines up perfectly with their purpose:

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