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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#26474882 - 02/08/20 01:25 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Hey look guys I found something that is gonna make koods dislike Mayor Pete, he’s getting money from a Russian oligarch:

How much was the donation?
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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: koods] 2
#26474909 - 02/08/20 02:09 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Welp, after all the extra time Iowa took to get it right, people sure did find a lot of errors:
https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1225597908369780742
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Iowa was a total shitshow. The entire process was Byzantine, but if they were really trying to steal delegates don’t you think they would do a better job of hiding it. The publicly released data clearly shows there was an error in reporting: The final alignment numbers are correct.
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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: koods] 1
#26474926 - 02/08/20 02:40 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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koods said: Iowa was a total shitshow. The entire process was Byzantine, but if they were really trying to steal delegates don’t you think they would do a better job of hiding it.
They CAN'T hide it. And yet Buttigieg still gained 10 points in New Hampshire out of it.
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koods said: The publicly released data clearly shows there was an error in reporting: The final alignment numbers are correct.

What are you showing here? Sanders has half the SDE's of what he was supposed to get and Warren has double.
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It shows that sanders and warrens SDEs don’t match their final alignment numbers. The fact that this data is faulty is self evident. The Iowa process is absurdly cumbersome and prone to error. But it also has a lot of redundancy, which makes error checking a bit easier. Anyone can look at those numbers and realize something is wrong.
Buttigieg did much better than expected that’s why he got a bump.
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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: koods] 2
#26475038 - 02/08/20 07:16 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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koods said:
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The Ecstatic said: Hey look guys I found something that is gonna make koods dislike Mayor Pete, he’s getting money from a Russian oligarch:

How much was the donation?
IDK but Moscow Mitch got 2.5 million. How can he even complain about that nickname?
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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: koods] 2
#26475091 - 02/08/20 08:00 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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koods said: So the gay guy nobody heard of six months ago is really the secret DNC establishment candidate? Come on dude
It's about sniping delegates, so that super delegates get a vote, dude. Pull your head out of your ass. Bloomberg said as much. He doesn't even want to be president.
Buttigieg had the best chance of sniping the most delegates in the first two states. Beyond that, he will not be favored by the DNC.
God this sense of entitlement is over the top. Buttigieg didn’t snipe delegates, he won them. Why do you think he doesn’t want to be president. That is a ridiculous claim.
I said Bloomberg said he's not running to become president. He's running to snipe delegates so that the convention will be contested.
There are multiple accounts of the DNC giving votes to Buttigieg that he didn't earn, firstly. There are multiple accounts of incorrect rounding, which favored Buttitgieg (Ie, rounding 4.43 to 5, in their little 'formula'). There are many accounts of Bernie's numbers being incorrectly rounded in a way that was disadvantageous to him. Many of Bernie's votes were divvied up between other candidates (some not even viable).
There is a record of all of this.
If you're going to play dumb, I really don't have time for it. There's a reason the DNC 'took over' for the Iowa Democratic party, for the first time in the history of ever. There's a reason the app, created by 'shadow', failed. There's a reason we still don't have results, and Pete gets to continue running around, masquerading as the victor, when he tied at best.
Pete got all the benefit from winning Iowa, and Pete didn't win Iowa.
Bernie had people video recording every single event in Iowa. We already know the numbers.
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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: koods] 1
#26475096 - 02/08/20 08:04 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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koods said: It shows that sanders and warrens SDEs don’t match their final alignment numbers. The fact that this data is faulty is self evident. The Iowa process is absurdly cumbersome and prone to error. But it also has a lot of redundancy, which makes error checking a bit easier. Anyone can look at those numbers and realize something is wrong.
Buttigieg did much better than expected that’s why he got a bump.
It also shows Sanders getting fucked each and every fucking time.
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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Brian Jones] 4
#26475241 - 02/08/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: IDK but Moscow Mitch got 2.5 million. How can he even complain about that nickname?
If I lived in Kentucky I'd be wearing this shirt every day.

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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: koods] 2
#26475311 - 02/08/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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koods said: It shows that sanders and warrens SDEs don’t match their final alignment numbers. The fact that this data is faulty is self evident. The Iowa process is absurdly cumbersome and prone to error.
Exactly. The current numbers are heavily skewed against Sanders.
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koods said: But it also has a lot of redundancy, which makes error checking a bit easier. Anyone can look at those numbers and realize something is wrong.
And how long will it take to look at the obviously long numbers and make a correction? Not until after New Hampshire is my guess at this point. I never would have believed the cheating would be so blatantly obvious, but that's what it's looking like now.
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koods said: Buttigieg did much better than expected that’s why he got a bump.
He got a bigger bump than he deserved because everyone is reporting him as the winner, even though everyone knows the results are wrong.

Honest reporting would show the results as 'still unknown' not 'here are the results that are clearly wrong showing Buttigieg winning'.
I agree with Wooof: "If you're going to play dumb, I really don't have time for it."
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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: koods] 3
#26475315 - 02/08/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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koods said:
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The Ecstatic said: Hey look guys I found something that is gonna make koods dislike Mayor Pete, he’s getting money from a Russian oligarch:

How much was the donation?
Aren’t your eyes supposed to roll back in your head when you see the word Russia? Who cares how much it was.
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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: The Ecstatic] 3
#26475345 - 02/08/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Aren’t your eyes supposed to roll back in your head when you see the word Russia? Who cares how much it was.
They always have before. But now it's ok I guess. Because, you know, Buttigieg.
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As if there aren’t a dozen other disqualifying things about Pete.
Look he just SOUNDS smart, and I LIKE him, and choosing the leader of the free world is like choosing my favorite contestant on Survivor.
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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: The Ecstatic]
#26477385 - 02/09/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Does pete have anything good to offer?
Is he for medical care for all? Raising taxes on people with highest incomes??
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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: sh4d0ws] 1
#26477414 - 02/09/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: Does pete have anything good to offer?
Is he for medical care for all? Raising taxes on people with highest incomes??
He's gay.
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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Bigbadwooof] 2
#26477459 - 02/09/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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He's a younger, smarter version of Bernie.
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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Enlil]
#26477468 - 02/09/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Enlil said: He's a younger, smarter version of Bernie.
Lol
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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Enlil] 3
#26477626 - 02/09/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: The Ecstatic] 2
#26477890 - 02/10/20 02:02 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well now, it's getting interesting. It seems there are errors galore on the worksheets that tally votes, but they are saying something like you can't correct the erroneous worksheets because they are considered legal documents and tampering with them would amount to a crime.
It's a madhouse.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/iowa-democratic-party-national-delegates-buttigieg-sanders-1.5457781
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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: JohnRainyII] 2
#26477961 - 02/10/20 04:37 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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But when the party delivers its updated results, which it has promised to do on Monday, they may hardly reassure candidates and voters, after internal emails from Saturday night revealed that the party would not correct even blatant errors in the official handwritten tally sheets from individual precincts.
Those records, known as “caucus math worksheets,” cannot be changed even if they contain mistakes, according to the lawyer for the Iowa Democratic Party, because they are a legal record and altering them would be a crime.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/09/us/politics/iowa-caucuses-democrats.html
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