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OfflineBigbadwooof
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Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! * 2
    #26468046 - 02/04/20 07:50 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The Democrats can't even run a proper fucking election... How in the "blue" fuck, does anyone expect them to run the country? The only vote they'll be getting from me is a vote of 'no confidence'.

Same goes for the media, as the only news organization that's doing any journalism on the Democratic primary is Fox News. The App that was used to submit votes during the caucus was created by a company whose CEO, CFO, and other corporate staff were all members of former Clinton campaigns. Last election is was created by Microsoft.

Hmm, nothing to see here folks! There's no tomfuckery afoot, but it seems Buttigieg may be pulling an upset in Iowa!


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #26468051 - 02/04/20 07:56 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Same goes for the media, as the only news organization that's doing any journalism on the Democratic primary is Fox News.




If you're getting your news from a reputable source, which all of the mainstream news networks have proven themselves not to be, this isn't even remotely true.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Forrester]
    #26468072 - 02/04/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
Same goes for the media, as the only news organization that's doing any journalism on the Democratic primary is Fox News.




If you're getting your news from a reputable source, which all of the mainstream news networks have proven themselves not to be, this isn't even remotely true.




I don't watch Fox News...


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Forrester] * 3
    #26468073 - 02/04/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Koods owes me an apology.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #26468077 - 02/04/20 08:19 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Koods owes me an apology.




For rigging the primary?


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #26468082 - 02/04/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I don't watch Fox News...




does anybody watch fox news? :lol:

No I wasn't saying that, just that there's loads of people doing journalism on the corruption of the DNC other than fox "news".


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #26468091 - 02/04/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Koods owes me an apology.



Even koods knew it was obvious Bernie won, yet none of the mainstream news is reporting it that way.  They're all calling the outcome 'uncertain'.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
    #26468109 - 02/04/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26468127 - 02/04/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Koods owes me an apology.



For?


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: koods] * 1
    #26468177 - 02/04/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Koods owes me an apology.



For?




Voting for Hillary Clinton.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #26468186 - 02/04/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It’s been four years. Get over it. Jesus Christ.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: koods]
    #26468194 - 02/04/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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It’s been four years. Get over it. Jesus Christ.




Lmao!!!

:freewilly:

:toast:

I'm really trying to get over it.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #26468248 - 02/04/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

More posts from the New York Times.

Here's a few of their earlier posts from last night before anyone realized there would be larger 'problems':
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Reid Epstein, with Buttigieg in Des Moines 8:20 PM ET

The Bernie Sanders campaign app is down, his precinct captain here said. He had planned to text supporters through the app but was calling instead.




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Reid Epstein, with Buttigieg in Des Moines 9:25 PM ET

Melanie Weatherall caucused for Biden in Johnston, but refused to realign to another candidate when he was not viable. “Nobody else can beat Trump.”




The NY Times is really milking this 'uncertainty' for all they can...

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Maggie Astor, reporting from Des Moines 11:21 PM ET

"We know there’s delays, but we know one thing — we are punching above our weight," Amy Klobuchar told supporters in a hotel ballroom in Des Moines.




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Astead Herndon, with Warren in Des Moines 11:36 PM ET

Warren: "It's too close to call, but I'm just going to tell you what I do know: As the baby daughter of a janitor, I'm so glad to be on this stage tonight."




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Thomas Kaplan, with Biden in Des Moines 11:37 PM ET

“We’re going to walk out of here with our share of delegates,” Biden says. “We feel good about where we are.”




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Reid Epstein, with Buttigieg in Des Moines 12:26 AM ET

Buttigieg essentially declares himself the winner in Iowa: “Because by all indications we are going on to New Hampshire victorious.”




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Shane Goldmacher, reporting from Des Moines 1:13 AM ET

Klobuchar campaign chief says they believe they’re close to Biden. No numbers are public so campaigns can set their own narratives.




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Maggie Astor, reporting from Des Moines 1:53 AM ET

Buttigieg aide basing victory claim on reports from 77% of their precinct captains. But we can’t say that’s representative or confirm their results.




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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26468260 - 02/04/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #26468265 - 02/04/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It is my understanding that the weirdness of the Iowa caucus system may be the main problem here, in combination with the app failure. In Iowa, you stand up and announce your candidate. Well, if your candidate fails to meet a certain percentage for that round, you can then go on to announce for a different candidate. Given that there are so many candidates, and so many permutations of this process, it can be extremely confusing.

I would bet that the confusing nature of this method, plus the whole digital imbroglio, is what is creating this crisis.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #26468267 - 02/04/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I'll STRONGLY disagree.  If an establishment candidate won, I believe we'd have the results by now.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26468268 - 02/04/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Evidence?


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #26468288 - 02/04/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Evidence?




Evidence: Last election we had results at a reasonable time the night of the caucus.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #26468290 - 02/04/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Evidence of what I believe?

Here's a few reasons I feel this way:

1.  We already suspected the DNC would rig this against non-establishment candidates
2.  It was a clear win by Bernie based on the initial results, but all the establishment candidates are now claiming victory and the media are reporting the results as 'uncertain' or even a win for the other candidates (see this post)
3.  Even if there were problems, these should be worked out today.  But now we're being warned it might take longer than expected.
4.  What wooof said.


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Re: Iowa Caucus - and DNC fuckery! [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #26468299 - 02/04/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Evidence?




Evidence: Last election we had results at a reasonable time the night of the caucus.





Last election there weren't eight candidates.


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