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GT cake
#26467869 - 02/04/20 03:32 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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My first cube brf is about to mature a 3.5" shroom--it looks like the cap is starting to open, so I'll make a spore print, then eat it fresh. How many mg wet is a good starting point for a first time? Is it a terrible idea to do this without a 'sitter'? Any advise or suggestions appreciated. Thanks
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35 g wet or 3.5 dry
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Re: GT cake [Re: Diego] 1
#26468010 - 02/04/20 07:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've always kind of told people to start off first with an 8th, because you're grabbed by the balls but don't lose everything.
But, when I think about it - someone who has zero experience with psychedelics.. an 8th might just be a little much. I loved my first trip off an with, but it was extremely intense.. but I had the greatest set & setting which made for a great time
If you're more than sure your mentally capable and willing to let the experience unfold itself and you're in a comfortable setting - then by all means, do take the 8th.
Most definitely have a good friend around for your first time.
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I gotta agreed. An eight is too much for a first timer in my opinion. I like to that the safest route and recommend 2 dry grams (about 20 wet grams). Still get the experience but easier to handle if its a bit much for your mind to process.
You can always dose higher on another trip.
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2g is the perfect ball tickle
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What does an 'eighth' refer to in grams? I've experienced minor hallucinations from ambien, believe it or not--walls breathing or moving, and took it right in stride. I knew what was going on, and enjoyed the (very) minor ride. I've often read on this site that 1.5 grams dried is a fair dose, or is that too conservative/wimpy? Thanks!
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1.5 to 2.5 grams is low to medium strong. Perfect for a first timer.
But those are dried grams. 15 to 25 grams wet would be the fresh wheight (roughly 1:10).
"An eight" is an eight of an ounce. 1 ounce is close to ~30g. 1/8 of 30 is like 3.5g. So it's 3.5g dry, or 35g wet. A good, solid dose.
I'd say eat ~20g wet. 
But one shroom won't be enough I think. They might look big and heavy, but 20g for a single shroom is not the stndard. Usually a dose is a handfull of shrooms, always depending on the size of course.
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RRedBBeard said: What does an 'eighth' refer to in grams? I've experienced minor hallucinations from ambien, believe it or not--walls breathing or moving, and took it right in stride. I knew what was going on, and enjoyed the (very) minor ride. I've often read on this site that 1.5 grams dried is a fair dose, or is that too conservative/wimpy? Thanks!
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I recently grew some Golden Teachers. A few of the specimens weighed 39g wet. Admittedly they were SHIT! But is 20g wet not unreasonable, Pandemoon?

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Edited by DJ Ed (02/04/20 02:38 PM)
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Re: GT cake [Re: DJ Ed]
#26468722 - 02/04/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Got it! I should have figured it was 1/8 of an ounce! Thank you for the explanations! I think I'm getting a little high just watching these cakes starting to fruit! 5 days after birthing, GT is getting into full swing, and B+ has just started producing a couple of pins. PE is being mysterious, with its consolidating blobs--with their tan splotches, they really look like wannabee caps to me. Blobs could be the actual 1st flush?
DJ Ed--why were your shrooms shit?
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They were really really weak. Although they looked gorgeous, it was a strange grow. For example the rye grain jars took 5 weeks to colonise; they normally take 3 weeks! So I tried two trips, one week apart, and nothing apart from a “cant get to sleep and I can’t read my iPad” happened both times.
All flushes went in the bin. Mazatapec rye grain jars now doing well two weeks in 👍🏻
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Re: GT cake [Re: DJ Ed]
#26468784 - 02/04/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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DJ Ed--do you think the shrooms were weak due to the strain, the growth environment, or some other factor? Multiple grows were just junk? That's a new one on me.....
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Update:
Update on GT--the big one is 5"/13cm long. When the cap opens, I'm hoping I can carefully remove it without affecting the others too much. What do you think?

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I believe I got a poor genetics from a spore syringe; 5 weeks to colonise the rye grain, normally,takes 3!
Yep, just slice the big one at the base and enjoy.....
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Re: GT cake [Re: DJ Ed]
#26470371 - 02/05/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm having much better results with brf cakes, agar and LC's so far. Maybe my opinion of grain cultures will change with time. Maintaining sterility seems much easier, since I can go agar==>LC==>brf and never remove a lid, bc these all have self-healers in the lids. Assuming I can learn to isolate good LC's, the brf's can be prepared on the dry side, and field capacity balanced by using a bit more LC, especially if the LC is reliable and home-made.
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Got some Mazatapec growing. When I get my first flush, I’m going to clone healthy looking mushroomsminto LC. Got 2 jars almost ready now 👍🏻
Also got a bag of 10 Petri dishes ready; going to take spore prints then see if I can isolate the genetics in agar for a consistent flush 👍🏻
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I took 1.8g my first time and had my mind blown.
I’m assuming since they were from a dealer they were above the average quality of ms grows though.
I agree with 2 grams dried/20 wet from your cake.
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Re: GT cake (moved) [Re: A.k.a]
#26471114 - 02/05/20 09:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah I mean, where do you want to go? Closed eye visuals and walls moving when your body starts to abandon you? Or probably gonna die spaced out blacked out mind trip when time stops? I have found that fresh seem to be more intense, its all anecdotal, but dry seem to be more visual and like everything.
I guess what I am trying to say is that 2.5 dry or 25 wet is a good starting point.
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Re: GT cake [Re: DJ Ed]
#26471120 - 02/05/20 09:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
DJ Ed said: Got some Mazatapec growing. When I get my first flush, I’m going to clone healthy looking mushroomsminto LC. Got 2 jars almost ready now 👍🏻
Also got a bag of 10 Petri dishes ready; going to take spore prints then see if I can isolate the genetics in agar for a consistent flush 👍🏻
Don’t clone tissue straight to LC. Use agar first and inoculate the LC with that.
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Re: GT cake (moved) [Re: jbgtaa]
#26473619 - 02/07/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I ended up eating ~25 grams wet, felt slightly tired. 2 hours later went to a neighbor's house briefly, not challenged at all. Was ready for a rollercoaster ride/got a rain check instead--lol. I'll get off the adderall for a month and try again. In the mean time, there are several brf's that will be 100% in the next couple of days, plus the 3 in humidity chambers, pinning away. Picture is B+ brf, showing a LOT of pins. I'm happy!
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Well that sucks.
Golden Teacher is the only kind I’ve been told was weak so far. Figured it was just a bad ms but maybe it’s just weaker in general.
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Re: GT cake (moved) [Re: A.k.a]
#26473746 - 02/07/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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It sucked a little, but not a biggie.
As I mentioned earlier, I didn't think the adderall would interfere. I'm sending some of this to a friend to try, so we'll see.
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Amphetamine does diminish the effects slighlty, especially in higher doses. If you just had a very low dose of adderall then it won't weaken the experience much, but if you are really lit up by the amp then shrooms won't do much.
That's my experience combining those two.
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Re: GT cake (moved) [Re: Pandemoon]
#26475225 - 02/08/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I remember mixing cocaine after the mushies set it. It was not good, it was like hyper drive jaw smacking while your skin is crawling to led zEpplin...
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Re: GT cake (moved) [Re: Sockadin]
#26475281 - 02/08/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have other brf's that are ready to go into humidity chambers, so by the time they're fruiting, the stuff will be out of my system. The half life is only 10 hours anyway. I might try the B+ later this week. If GT was any indicator, it'll be maturing fruit in just a few days.
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