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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26471888 - 02/06/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Minimizing taxes is like Viagra for businesses. Lower taxes and great business will explode with growth because the entity is confident in investing in growth and hiring and expanding. All good things for everyone.

Tax the fuck out of them and growth shrinks. No?




You're really out the loop dude. Companies haven't been reinvesting their profits back onto the company or economy for a very LONG time. They used ultra low interest rates to borrow money to buy back their shares, that's all.

You haven't been paying attention at all, you're spewing the old trickle down economics model. That's ancient history.



ditto, called it earlier, you and I are on the same page here, love it!




It's economic fact, the statistics don't lie about it.  Companies can hoard cash and not reinvest into workers (wages/benefits),plant/equipment for decades.

The Trump corporate tax cut did NOT tie any of the cuts with investment. So guess what the companies did with the extra cash? 

https://americansfortaxfairness.org/issue/costly-corporate-tax-cuts-benefit-workers/

"83% of the tax cuts will go to the top 1%"

"4.3% of workers getting wage hikes"

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/what-did-corporate-america-do-tax-break-buy-record-amounts-n886621


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: qman]
    #26471911 - 02/06/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I now! It's such a fucking sick/rigged game. I am in agreement with you if you didn't catch that. All the way.


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: feldman114]
    #26472020 - 02/06/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

For fucks sake Im not saying he cannot sell shares

Im saying having 129B in shares is not the same as having 129B on a bank account


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26472025 - 02/06/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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For fucks sake Im not saying he cannot sell shares

Im saying having 129B in shares is not the same as having 129B on a bank account



Ok, move the goal posts. You’re still incorrect 🤷🏻‍♂️

You can’t withdraw 129B from your bank account faster than you can sell 129B worth of stocks.


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: feldman114]
    #26472032 - 02/06/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Depends on the agreements you have with the other shareholders on the conditions of selling shares


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: Tripsurfer] * 2
    #26472040 - 02/06/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Alright you two



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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26472043 - 02/06/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

compared to me, I just get SSDI so I watch my money closely :tongue:


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: ichugwindex]
    #26472168 - 02/06/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

This is why I never want that kind of money or business, lol. We are very comfy and lucky. Plus we did work towards it as well.


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26472887 - 02/06/20 09:16 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The amount should be written 1295x10^8 I think for sig figs


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: Ferrum]
    #26473208 - 02/07/20 02:00 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yall should peep this.

Covers the tax issue well, me thinks. If you don't have experience in accounting or economics- you're probably not considering the whole picture.

This will help you get there.

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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador] * 1
    #26473568 - 02/07/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I really don't care one bit who has the billions or any of that crap, I do well and will be fine. I just have ideas and suggestions on how the people with extreme wealth could make lives easier for people under them. I know it will NEVER happen. But I like to say what I feel about because I can. Love this thread and all the input (mostly). I do not wish I had those billions because look at all the hub bub going on right now about him! FUCK ALL THAT!:heart:

A few mill is fine with me, hell even one mill would be fantastic.


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador] * 1
    #26473621 - 02/07/20 10:05 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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susurrador said:
Yall should peep this.

Covers the tax issue well, me thinks. If you don't have experience in accounting or economics- you're probably not considering the whole picture.

This will help you get there.

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Yes, we get it. Big corporations have bought off Congress into not paying much of any tax at all.


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: qman]
    #26473641 - 02/07/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yep!


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26473772 - 02/07/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I really don't care one bit who has the billions or any of that crap, I do well and will be fine. I just have ideas and suggestions on how the people with extreme wealth could make lives easier for people under them. I know it will NEVER happen. But I like to say what I feel about because I can. Love this thread and all the input (mostly). I do not wish I had those billions because look at all the hub bub going on right now about him! FUCK ALL THAT!:heart:

A few mill is fine with me, hell even one mill would be fantastic.




Don't care, but suggest, don't want, but would be fantastic.

Would you take advice from a homeless guy about how you could make his life easier by giving him things even though he doesn't care and has no interest in living as nicely as you? And the difference between you and a homeless guy is not nearly as vast as the difference between you and Jeff Bezos. Ok, and maybe you do help out a homeless guy every now and then.... that's great. But do you let the homeless bro decide the extent of your help? Fak no.

Stuff and things should be real copacetic when you discuss what is right and wrong. That is what the issue boils down to for me. Whether bum to middle class, or middle class to Jeff Bezos, we should be arriving at the same answer when we ask the question if it is ok. Is it ok for you to be middle class when bums exist? Is it ok for Jeff Bezos to be wealthy when the middle class exists? Of course.

Should a bum be taken seriously when he gives you financial advice? Should you be considered when giving Bezos financial advice? ( I'll let you answer this one)

The idea of arbitrarily deciding what another man should or should not have based on nothing but the inability to fathom what the point of being so wealthy is... is kind of not good. For all the reasons why you wouldn't take financial advice from a bum.


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
    #26473775 - 02/07/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

BUT, it is not really arbitrary in light of the people that are bums by choice or not. It is the super wealthy peoples moral duty in my opinion, but money has no morals does it?


Is it ok for you to be middle class when bums exist?
Yes. I know a guy who lives downtown in an apt near a lot of homeless people. He engages them (he's a writer as well as an artist) and he says the majority of them do it by choice.

Is it ok for Jeff Bezos to be wealthy when the middle class exists? Of course.
yes, but these super wealthy people have the means to help so much more than they apparently do not. I worked at a yacht club as a waiter and saw the most fucked up things that super wealthy people are privy to that should never exist, but that is the way it is and nothing will ever change it.


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26473795 - 02/07/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

How is it theirs and not your moral responsibility?


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
    #26473812 - 02/07/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Cause 90% of Americans aren’t homeless:nono:
If you are making minimum wage while 9/10 people were jobless, the system is obv broken.

Thank you for the analogy, it does work.


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
    #26473823 - 02/07/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

They have more means to do more, I do what I can.


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: feldman114]
    #26473832 - 02/07/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I'm sure we all have the means to help more than we do if a problem actually exists.

But if most of the homeless do it by choice... is there even a problem there besides the nuisance they can cause at times?

And if there is no problem, should we use them in the wealth disparity argument?

People are also middle class by choice. They get to a point where they just don't want to try any harder or do any better and so middle class is where they are.

And if that is where you are, is there really a problem?


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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador] * 1
    #26473877 - 02/07/20 12:27 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So trying "to do harder" and "better" is a goal for you? Middle class is beneath what you consider "good" or something? Some people just do not want to be at a certain level in life and that is not a bad thing. I grew up eating oatmeal on thanksgiving sometimes, my half sister taught me to steal, we had that aluminum and plastic fiber lawn furniture in our living room as furniture because my mom was too proud to take food stamps, and she worked 3 jobs at as time sometimes, she made some bad choices, but what can you do? By all statistics I should be a burned out low life addict bum with several kids as well on welfare, but I am not. I did learn form her, and her mistakes, as well as my own when I was responsible for my own life.

Some people just need a little bit extra help and that can make the world of difference in their lives, but the billionaires will not do it. They'd rather show off yachts, and houses, and show how they gave X amount of money to this or that charity and "look how much of a philanthropist/good person I am" kind of shit.


How about this. A company makes 5 billion dollars. They could make 3 billion and give that other 2 billion to the workers and everyone else, but no! It is their right as a corp/company/american to make as much as possible and keep it too, why should they give up that 2 billion for no gains or anything in return? GREEDY GREEDY FUCKS! They want that 5 billion because it is their right as a corp.


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