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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
#26470257 - 02/05/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Minimizing taxes is like Viagra for businesses. Lower taxes and great business will explode with growth because the entity is confident in investing in growth and hiring and expanding. All good things for everyone.
Tax the fuck out of them and growth shrinks. No?
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
#26470262 - 02/05/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ah ha! My point exactly! They don't really "give" anything.
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susurrador
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26470267 - 02/05/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't follow. Can you elaborate a little?
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26470274 - 02/05/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: And what do you think happens to the value when Bezos starts dumping shares on the market?
That has nothing to do with anything I said. He CAN sell. The 129B is his, and it’s not tied up by “regulations”.
If you wanna talk economics, you’re about 4 pages too late lol
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
#26470286 - 02/05/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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susurrador said: Minimizing taxes is like Viagra for businesses. Lower taxes and great business will explode with growth because the entity is confident in investing in growth and hiring and expanding. All good things for everyone.
Tax the fuck out of them and growth shrinks. No?
The "trickle down theory" only benefits the ones with the most power/in charge/owners.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26470293 - 02/05/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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All 800,000 Amazon employees benefit when Amazon grows. People get promotions, more people are hired, stock goes up, job security goes up, economies of scale are further realized dropping costs and improving efficiency.
This isn't a pyramid scheme we're talking about here. There's a legitimate service and products being offered.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: feldman114]
#26470308 - 02/05/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Perhaps you can show me the Amazon Shareholders agreement without regulations. You think people just invest and hand out shares without massive legal documentation? It just doesnt work that way.
Im noy saying the shares are not his, but stating that Bezos can just start spending 129B is a gross oversimplification of what is actually involved in owning company shares
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26470321 - 02/05/20 01:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ugh...no one “gave out” Amazon shares to Jeff Bezos. The fact is, he can sell stock. Everyone who owns stock can sell stock. Your denial of this simple fact is perplexing.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: feldman114]
#26470491 - 02/05/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I own shares in a medtech company. I do know what I am talking about.
I never said Bezos was given shares, but Im pretty sure he diluded when other investors stepped in during the scale-up phase. He is limited in how and when he can sell by the SHA.
You can see this in Tesla too, Musk does some weird shit and millions evaporate overnight. Or are added to the value, it works both ways
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26470510 - 02/05/20 03:32 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: I own shares in a medtech company. I do know what I am talking about.
I never said Bezos was given shares, but Im pretty sure he diluded when other investors stepped in during the scale-up phase. He is limited in how and when he can sell by the SHA.
You can see this in Tesla too, Musk does some weird shit and millions evaporate overnight. Or are added to the value, it works both ways
Lol owning stocks makes you an expert? You just disputed your own argument by bringing up Musk...
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26470512 - 02/05/20 03:32 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: feldman114]
#26470548 - 02/05/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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How so? He smoked weed and shares dropped like 10% or something. Most expensive puff of smoke ever
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26470558 - 02/05/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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No kidding? WOW, people are still stuck in the stoned ages about weed, lol. Maybe it was really wealthy or semi rich older people, you know, like the ones who have enough money but are greedy and want more? Maybe it was them.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26470600 - 02/05/20 04:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've been getting stoned for some time now and Musk Bill Clinton'd that joint. Better than Bill even Bill Clinton'd a joint because we all know that mf did inhale.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
#26470616 - 02/05/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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The truth!
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: Tripsurfer] 1
#26470618 - 02/05/20 04:23 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: How so? He smoked weed and shares dropped like 10% or something. Most expensive puff of smoke ever
In October 2002, PayPal was acquired by eBay for US$1.5 billion in stock, of which Musk received US$165 million. Before its sale, Musk, who was the company's largest shareholder, owned 11.7% of PayPal's shares.
Bezos could sell any time. As long as it’s announced ahead of time. Like so: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/04/jeff-bezos-sells-1point8-billion-worth-of-amazon-stock.html
But what do facts know, you’re the expert stock owner here
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26470619 - 02/05/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Middle ground. At last.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
#26470625 - 02/05/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry but I’m not conceding anything on this one. Owning stocks wouldn’t make sense if you couldn’t sell them whenever you want.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: feldman114]
#26470629 - 02/05/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is like a congressional microcosm.
A whole session of discussion and arguments is concluded with the agreement that the guy that says he inhaled didn't, and the one that says he didn't inhale, in fact fucking did.
We're talking about the doobs, feldman. We clearly agree on nothing else.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
#26470636 - 02/05/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Do you not agree that he JUST sold 2b worth of Amazon stock?
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