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Favorite Psychedelic Substance * 1
    #26465946 - 02/02/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

What are some of your favorite psychedelic substances and what about that substance, in specific, sets it apart from other psychedelics?

Out of all the psychedelic substances I've done (LSD, Psilocybin, MDMA, Cannabis, and Salvia) psilocybin is my favorite. I like that they are natural and have been on this earth for billions of years. The high is also unlike others for me. It's like combing the euphoria of MDMA with the complex thought patterns of LSD and throwing in visuals that are completely unique to only psilocybin. I will note that I love all psychedelics and think they all have unique qualities.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: TokeItUp12]
    #26466000 - 02/02/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I've never properly tripped on mescaline (not yet) but my experiences on it have been really incredible even at low doses, more so than any other psychedelic.

Psilocybin is probably my least favorite in terms of enjoyment but most useful in terms of general application to life. It always makes me feel a bit out of place even when I'm enjoying myself.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26466020 - 02/02/20 09:41 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I've never properly tripped on mescaline (not yet) but my experiences on it have been really incredible




I dont know much about the effects of mescaline or what it does biochemically speaking. Can it be comparable to LSD or Psilocybin at all? I'm highly interested


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: TokeItUp12]
    #26466158 - 02/03/20 12:45 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

As a serotonergic psychedelic, it can certainly be compared to psilocybin and lsd!

Think of mescaline as acid minus shrooms. Psilocybin is a tryptamine (similar to DMT), while acid is both a phenethylamine and a tryptamine. Mescaline is a pure phenethylamine. To give you an idea of trypamines vs phenethylamines, MDMA is a phenethylamine. Very euphoric.

Mescaline trips are very intense like those of shrooms, but with a lot more control, people sometimes say even more than acid.

It's also one of the best substances to microdose with, because it lasts even longer than acid (!!!) and gives you hope and happiness even at subperceptual doses.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26466176 - 02/03/20 01:31 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Mushrooms are my favorite. I have a gram and a half of mescaline in the freezer I have yet to try so that might be my new favorite.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: SFS96]
    #26466321 - 02/03/20 06:18 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

too hard to pick one for me, they all serve a different purpose, shrooms for introspection, Marijuana for pain management/inflamation, LSD for recreation, Microdosing for mood improvement.DMT to keep me from becoming complacent in belief systems. when they're used as tools it's hard to say what one has affected me the most or what has been my favorite. I would like to get to a point in life where I am enlightened enough to not need these tools to seek the experience I find. I think as you progress through your psychedelic journey you end up needing less drugs to achieve the enlightenment you seek.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: 330ci]
    #26466355 - 02/03/20 06:54 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: The Mycologist]
    #26466397 - 02/03/20 07:41 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: 330ci]
    #26466449 - 02/03/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

:tmckenna:

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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: The Mycologist]
    #26466455 - 02/03/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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:tmckenna:

We hang at the shroomery for a reason.





I’m still trying to find that reason myself 🧐


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: 330ci]
    #26466470 - 02/03/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: 330ci] * 1
    #26466504 - 02/03/20 09:25 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Mushrooms.
LSD is great for music events, sex, having fun in general.
DMT is great too.
But if someone said you can only pick one to do for the rest of your life it would be mushrooms.
But I would also be really, REALLY sad not getting to ever have sex on LSD again. Thankfully I don’t have to choose between them.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: CosmicGiggle]
    #26466513 - 02/03/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

LSD

long duration and very powerful


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: acidgoofy]
    #26466530 - 02/03/20 09:40 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

LSD is the least powerful (classic) psychedelic


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26466537 - 02/03/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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LSD is the least powerful (classic) psychedelic




It is the most powerful by weight.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26466589 - 02/03/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Powerful as in incapacitating, yea.

But visionary capability, thats a little murkier


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26466610 - 02/03/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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LSD is the least powerful (classic) psychedelic




It is the most powerful by weight.



Measured in effect of active dose (which is the more relevant metric) it is the weakest.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26466634 - 02/03/20 10:59 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Measured in effect of active dose (which is the more relevant metric) it is the weakest.





Sorry but that's bullshit.. lsd only shows you what you are capable to handle.

If you do the work there is no limit to it's power. It can show you anything you want and literally guide you into infinty.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: acidgoofy]
    #26466655 - 02/03/20 11:16 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, acid can be extremely intense and powerful. No, it is not as powerful as shrooms, DMT, or even mescaline. That is not just my subjective experience (haven't even tried DMT yet), but is actually scientific fact, based on multiple studies that give users questionnaires and give a numerical value to the sum total of their symptoms.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26466672 - 02/03/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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That is not just my subjective experience, but is actually scientific fact,




Now that's a bunch of bullshit, mmmkay. 

:mmmkay:


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26466687 - 02/03/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Yes, acid can be extremely intense and powerful. No, it is not as powerful as shrooms, DMT, or even mescaline. That is not just my subjective experience (haven't even tried DMT yet), but is actually scientific fact, based on multiple studies that give users questionnaires and give a numerical value to the sum total of their symptoms.



This is something I’ve had a bit of a problem with myself, I think there are far too many factors to consider. I was an 18 year old wannabe badass so I said fuck acid, fuck shrooms I’m going to do the strongest psychedelic known to man. DMT made me its bitch every time I used it, but after trying LSD while on shrooms after a few experiences with .5-1.5g of shrooms it was the most powerful experience of my life so far. I can respect the fact that DMT makes me question everything in humanity, and it’s definitely the most intense experience while it lasts. But I chose the guidance of LSD and shrooms showed me the path. Psychedelics by themselves each pose unique characteristics but scientifically quantification of them is impossible. We don’t even have the slightest clue to their value on humanity yet and won’t recognize it until they are finally accepted as a societal norm and we’re not viewed as psychopaths


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26466699 - 02/03/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

What I say you can't prove with "scientific facts" xD or studies. I have no doubt that for example shrooms will be visually more intense to the un-experienced user or in any other way whatever. But that doesn't mean that lsd is less powerful then shrooms.

It's stupid to even discuss what psychedelic is more powerful then the other because there is no limit to their power. Some get you faster to breakthrough experiences then others but it doesn't matter.

Maybe I shouldn't have labeled it as "very powerful" but it was more based on the small amount you need to feel it.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26466827 - 02/03/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Measured in effect of active dose (which is the more relevant metric) it is the weakest.




So would an active dose of mushrooms be 3.5g of dried cubes and for LSD it would be 1 tab (150ug)? The highest mushroom dose I've taken was 2.4g which was a little more wild than LSD as far as sensation and headspace goes but 1 tab of LSD is much more visual than 2.4g of mushrooms in my experience


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: TokeItUp12]
    #26466916 - 02/03/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Measured in effect of active dose (which is the more relevant metric) it is the weakest.




So would an active dose of mushrooms be 3.5g of dried cubes and for LSD it would be 1 tab (150ug)? The highest mushroom dose I've taken was 2.4g which was a little more wild than LSD as far as sensation and headspace goes but 1 tab of LSD is much more visual than 2.4g of mushrooms in my experience</font>



From my experience I would compare my experience from half an eighth of shrooms to a bit of acid. There’s an equilibrium between them all it’s just that the perspective the scientific community has a definitive value and they don’t try to find the equilibrium between the experiences instead of the difference


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26466934 - 02/03/20 02:37 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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InfiniteDreams said:
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Korean Jesus said:
That is not just my subjective experience, but is actually scientific fact,




Now that's a bunch of bullshit, mmmkay.




:whathesaid:

i prefer mushrooms, they're fun and i always feel something good comes out of every trip

tried dmt a few times but i don't really enjoy it
i feel like it isn't teaching me much and for how gross smoking it is i say it's not worth it

lsd is great, music while tripping is like discovering the 5th dimension, but i think i took a bit too much too early and now i can't not worry about my mental health every time i consider taking. (i haven't taken any for about 1 year)

these 3 are the only psychedelics i tried, am looking forward to trying mescaline tho, reading carlos castaneda's "the teachings of don juan" really sparked an interest for the cacti


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: TokeItUp12]
    #26467456 - 02/03/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

LSD, I think. Now anyway.

I grew mushrooms for...idk, almost 5 years straight. So I had a pretty much continuous supply. I have a deep love for the mushroom and will forever until I go into the ground, but I'm at a point now where I'm not nearly as into the spiritual aspect at this stage of my life. Now don't get me wrong I still crave the introspection of psychedelics, as it's one of the best parts about them (if not THE best). But after years exploring the spiritual side I'm more into the recreational aspect now, with just enough of the introspection on the side (which to me an LSD trip has a nice balance of).

Mushrooms, to me anyway, are a little too dark and sinister for me these days, whereas LSD has a more recreational/fun vibe than mushrooms to me for the most part.

That said, who knows, maybe in time I'll come full circle in time and crave mushrooms more again.

Oh yeah, and unlike a lot of folks I prefer the significantly longer duration of an LSD experience.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26467495 - 02/03/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The power of psychedelics is dosage dependent.  If you up the dose high enough all of them are strong as hell.  Saying that LSD is weaker or stronger than another psychedelic misses the point.  It all depends on the dose.

My favorite psychedelic is mescaline.  And its not even close.  It lasts really long.  Its very visual.  It works on both the mind AND BODY.  And it always teaches me something valuable.  When everything goes right, a good mescaline trip is like riding a tsunami of euphoria and energy, with the greatest mental sharpness and clarity imaginable, all the while being deeply immersed in the psychedelic realm, with all of the awe and visual splendor that awaits there.  I've never felt so alive, and so happy to be alive, as during some of those trips with San Pedro.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Grey Fox]
    #26467584 - 02/03/20 09:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I've only dosed this three times ever, but I think this is my favorite so far.

AL-LAD

I'd like to say this with caution as I don't believe it has been nearly as widely tested or consumed as other staples in the psychedelic bag o' tricks. Would probably call it a research chemical at this point..

Shulgin at one point composed the stuff and then wrote about his experiences in one of his books.

I found it several years ago and had a 10 strip of it. Was identical to this photo and was labeled so people would not misrepresent it as something else. (Two thumbs up to the maker(s)!)



I really enjoyed the stuff. Very very visual...  but not mentally chaotic at any point. My hearing seemed extremely crisp and music made for an incredible experience.

I didn't experience the body load that I commonly have with L and shrooms, but it did make me sweat profusely while I was dancing the second time I dosed. As in, looked like I had just climbed out of a pool sweaty. At one point my buddy came up and slapped my back and it sprayed him... so that was a strange kind of extreme side effect. Once I settled down and got off the dancefloor, the sweating stopped like normal... but I don't think I've ever leaked that much water in my life.

The high was about half the duration of a standard mid level acid trip at about 6 hours which was one of the great notes in my eyes.

There have been lots of situations where I would have loved to dose, but didn't quite have the solid 2 days min to reach out and then come back to Earth and recover that L requires.

Interestingly, AL-LAD is an analog to LSD.

So LSD is a precursor chemical to make AL-LAD, if I understand correctly.

I did not experience any negative side effects during any of my 3 trips.

I took one blotter square my first time and it was great. I calmly sat and listened to music through headphones and smoked weed. Had an epic moment listening to Daft Punk's album Random Access Memories and realized the one song is talking about the birth of the 4x4 beat which makes up the vast majority of electronic music out there. But they don't spell it out in the song... it's kind of alluded to- but high on AL-LAD I was picking up exactly what they were hinting at.

Anyway, on 2 tabs, the visuals were awesome. Not disorienting. Very trippy though. Was at a show in a new club just opened in a casino. Casinos already have all kinds of time and space dilating features even to a sober person... so the club was really a trip. Everything kind of had a rainbow sheen like oil on water. Sparkles and such. There was little audio distortion- music sounded absolutely amazing.

Anyway, probably my favorite. Something I would definitely do again. Unfortunately there is little economic reason for anyone to make the stuff unless they're personally interested because it is adding steps to an already complex procedure to produce something not as long lasting as the precursor itself, LSD.



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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: susurrador]
    #26467596 - 02/03/20 09:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I’ll always have a soft spot for cid, my favorite. Mushrooms tend to give me a lot of anxiety. I was really happy to reconnect with an old acid buddy the other day on fb. We partied a lot in the mid 90s. A friend of my older brothers. He would come over just about every day. He gave me my first hit ever and 100s more after that. Always had a good time when he was around. Grill , play hackey sack ect. I might grow these mushies out only to find I still don’t like them. Give it the ole college try at least a few dozen time. I’m sure the anxiety is just because the first of 2-3 times I ate a whole quarter. It was a rough night even for someone who Had tripped as much as I used to.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: D3_Myc]
    #26467604 - 02/03/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Dramamine on the other hand is the devil, which I’m pretty sure I seen that night along with terrantulas, cobwebs everywhere, teleportation and auditory hallucinations... I was probably dying. That shit wild, only did it twice. Maybe 3 times.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: D3_Myc]
    #26467628 - 02/03/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Dramamine on the other hand is the devil, which I’m pretty sure I seen that night along with terrantulas, cobwebs everywhere, teleportation and auditory hallucinations... I was probably dying. That shit wild, only did it twice. Maybe 3 times.



Why are you getting high on dramamine?

two tablets work great for motion sickness or to help you fall asleep, anything else and you are asking for trouble, might as well huff petrol. :methisgood:


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    #26467636 - 02/03/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

For me the body high on shrooms is what I dont like compared to acid. On CID I can feel free to move where mushrooms like me to stay sedentary pretty much the whole time. I've also noticed that mushrooms like it dark where it doesnt matter so much with LSD. And social situations are very anxiety provoking with mushrooms compared to LSD


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #26467879 - 02/04/20 04:32 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Dramamine on the other hand is the devil, which I’m pretty sure I seen that night along with terrantulas, cobwebs everywhere, teleportation and auditory hallucinations... I was probably dying. That shit wild, only did it twice. Maybe 3 times.



Why are you getting high on dramamine?

two tablets work great for motion sickness or to help you fall asleep, anything else and you are asking for trouble, might as well huff petrol. :methisgood:




I was a teen and stupid, 12-15 tabs def induces some crazy trips and vertigo but I’d never recommend


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: D3_Myc]
    #26468226 - 02/04/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Dramamine on the other hand is the devil, which I’m pretty sure I seen that night along with terrantulas, cobwebs everywhere, teleportation and auditory hallucinations... I was probably dying. That shit wild, only did it twice. Maybe 3 times.




I’ve had strong liberty cap experiences many years ago that gave a deliriant-type effect. Check out the first pick on the Psyhconaut Wiki page for deliriants: Deliriant

(Not bragging by the way, those trips were pretty horrible)


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    #26468324 - 02/04/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Yes, acid can be extremely intense and powerful. No, it is not as powerful as shrooms, DMT, or even mescaline. That is not just my subjective experience (haven't even tried DMT yet), but is actually scientific fact, based on multiple studies that give users questionnaires and give a numerical value to the sum total of their symptoms.



I’d say by weight LSD is by far the most potent classic psychedelic. Iv never had mushrooms take me as far as LSD. Iv eaten half oz of shrooms and it not fuck me up like 6 or 7 hits of pure L.


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    #26468367 - 02/04/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Dramamine on the other hand is the devil, which I’m pretty sure I seen that night along with terrantulas, cobwebs everywhere, teleportation and auditory hallucinations... I was probably dying. That shit wild, only did it twice. Maybe 3 times.




I’ve had strong liberty cap experiences many years ago that gave a deliriant-type effect. Check out the first pick on the Psyhconaut Wiki page for deliriants: Deliriant

(Not bragging by the way, those trips were pretty horrible)




That was a good read, almost makes me want to do dramamine again... so wild. I’d be at my kitchen table, then next thing I know I’m hanging out with friends talking walking through a spooky forest at night only to warp back to my kitchen table moments later. Had a friend wig out, was chasing his mom around the house calling out to her only she was really in bed. He got grounded for like 6 months. I imagine what it might be like to be schizophrenic


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    #26468627 - 02/04/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It’s pretty damn scary, to be fair, d3monic. I’ve been some scary places; but the thought of it permanent....sh1t!


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    #26468653 - 02/04/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Whatever is ones favorite, moderation and limitation of use ensures it remains ones favorite.

To much of a good thing sucks.


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    #26469085 - 02/04/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Psilocybin


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    #26469194 - 02/04/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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My favorite psychedelic is mescaline.  And its not even close.  It lasts really long.  Its very visual.  It works on both the mind AND BODY.  And it always teaches me something valuable.  When everything goes right, a good mescaline trip is like riding a tsunami of euphoria and energy, with the greatest mental sharpness and clarity imaginable, all the while being deeply immersed in the psychedelic realm, with all of the awe and visual splendor that awaits there.  I've never felt so alive, and so happy to be alive, as during some of those trips with San Pedro.




I only have had one San Pedro experience in my entire life, and I think I made a big mistake by not purging.

Because the body load kept me basically glued to the couch the entire time. And it was a long time, lol.


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    #26469509 - 02/05/20 12:26 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Terrific subject. The truly beautiful thing is they all exist in their respective domains and we don’t have to pick a favourite. But...my favorite is Psilocybin :smile: To quote Whitman: “Very well I contradict myself; I contain multitudes.”

I am most interested in the four classics (Mescaline, Psilocybin, DMT, LSD).

As far as I’ve read, 5-MeO-DMT seems to be the bonafide fifth addition, but I’ve never done it, so I can’t comment.

DPT and MET are perhaps worthy of inclusion as sixth and seventh. To put it crudely from my limited experience, DPT is a wacky, profound, unforgiving thing; MET is like DMT but you can take a little more home. These are more obscure, though DPT less so. It’s currently unregulated, but probably not for long.

From there we have the fleetingly psychedelic honorable mentions. Ketamine is probably the closest, but it also has the odd nature of being a drug of possible addiction. This conversely makes it very un-psychedelic in a way. The dissociative release of self lends itself to escapism. Take a high enough dose of Ketamine and you’ll forget your own name and think you can speak to dolphins. A weird one, for sure.

In the in between, Shulgin substances and modern research chemicals galore weave there way delicately in and out. Psychedelic? Sure...or not. A matter of opinion, each being their own thing. There are so damn many of them.

And then we have things that get called psychedelic but just aren’t. I don’t think MDMA is psychedelic in any way, whatsoever, period. I think it’s a pleasure drug pure and simple. It has become the modern cocaine, more neurotoxic. I don’t like the way it makes me feel at all personally. Like some kind of therapy I don’t need. Gross. I also do not think weed is a psychedelic (though I don’t view it negatively). Weed is just...weed.

Of the classic four here are my thoughts for anyone interested:

LSD feels the simplest to me and least nuanced compared to the rest, as mind blowing as it is. It was the first psychedelic I took and I think is generally a great first psychedelic to take. With acid though more is just more, at least in comparison to mushrooms, where the experience is different at different dosages, sometimes feeling like a different drug entirely. That’s a whole subject unto itself. Nevertheless, a high dose LSD trip (400-600mcg) is definitely something else, something remarkably profound. LSD is responsible for a massive paradigm shift in western culture. We are living in a world very much framed by the changes LSD instilled in art, performace, computing, culture itself...you name it. It’s effects are everywhere. It is highly beloved to me personally for the love and awe it instilled in me for what humanity is capable of. It promotes wonder and intrigue in the clearest fashion of the four, I think. It’s not all light though. It can stir up that “witchy” vibe, which always cracked me up. I think it’s its best joke...the Manson family evidently didn’t think of it as a joke at all, though.

DMT is an unfathomable destruction of reality, a journey thrusting one into another dimension in the most rapid form of ascension. You are immediately confronted with a sort of forced conclusion you must accept of “nothing to prove, nothing to lose.” The contact with beings of genuine existence in the place is never not suprising. It’s hard for me to know what to make of it all. It leaves a profound afterglow of awe but also confusion. Of the classic four psychedelics, this is the most ineffable among the ineffables. I am speaking of smoked DMT as I’ve not tried ayahuasca yet.

Mescaline to me is a little bizarre. The phenethylamine world unleashed as a classic psychedelic. There are parts of the experience I like and others I dislike. First of all, the experience is by far the most blatantly sensual of the four. No other classic psychedelic will have you feeling so pleasant to the touch, and when touching things (similar to it’s phenethylamine cousin MDMA). This can be nice, and it can also be annoying when it becomes intense. Furthermore, it is very much like LSD in “vibe” (minutia focus on household objects, art...refraction of light are beautiful, etc). Appreciation of nature is amplified perhaps more than any other psychedelic for some. It also gives you a SHIT ton of energy (similar to it’s phenethylamine cousins amphetamine and methamphetamine). It pumps you full of love, but also a raw force of aggression (massive, twelve hour long drum circle...commence!). That part I am often not into. I’ve got plenty of energy already. In conclusion, mescaline and cacti are somewhat strange ones for me. While it’s of course entirely it’s own thing, it’s not as unreasonable as it mind sound to compare a heavy mescaline trip to taking a strong dose of LSD, two medium strength, spaced doses of MDMA, and a low or medium dose of swallowed methamphetamine. The last part may sound alarming...but if you've ever really gone down the mescaline/cacti road, you know it has a speedy element. And don’t read to far into that...I am simply making a raw comparison of the FEEL of it. Some people might take issue with this. Yes, meth unto itself is horrific and toxic; the soul destroyer. Hence why I’m only making a rough comparison. And it’s my own personal interpretation/experience of which I am speaking. I’ve felt uncomfortably amped up during some of my cacti trips. Indigenous peoples (and others) will take it during journeys on foot and walk for days with little or no food. So...it’s a thing. Enough said.

Psilocybin. I could go on forever. Mushrooms are underrated by the psychedelic community at large I think. Most people don’t take enough. Psilocybin is like a sort of technology of flight into the entheogenic unknown for me every time. Mushrooms for me represent the chemical and organic epitome and vast depth of exploration in every sense. On a high dose mushroom trip, I can go into the “beyond,” but I mostly can understand it and bring it back, unlike DMT. Mushrooms are the most intriguing to me as an ongoing endeavor. After 20+ high dose LSD trips I got the proverbial message that I had gotten the message, and to hang up the phone. I’ve never gotten that with psilocybin. Always more to learn, more room to grow. Also, so much is possible with cultivation. A multitude of established strains to start with, and the ability to isolate...explore. Penis Envy isolates, what fun! I do think ego inflation is the most possible or likely on mushrooms, LSD second, but this mostly happens to me when I haven’t tripped in a while and haven’t been “working” toward something cumulative in benefit. I like the duration length. Speaking of duration, this has gotten long...in conclusion, mvsh cult for life :mushroom2: :cheers:


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    #26469961 - 02/05/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Great post, Psilotyl, thanks for sharing 👍🏻


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    #26470326 - 02/05/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I only have had one San Pedro experience in my entire life, and I think I made a big mistake by not purging.

Because the body load kept me basically glued to the couch the entire time. And it was a long time, lol.




Mescaline is funny like that.  I usually get that heavy, unable to move feeling for the first half of the trip.  Then during the second half the energy usually kicks in and I'm amped.  But every trip is different.  You should try it again.


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    #26470815 - 02/05/20 05:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I only have had one San Pedro experience in my entire life, and I think I made a big mistake by not purging.

Because the body load kept me basically glued to the couch the entire time. And it was a long time, lol.




Mescaline is funny like that.  I usually get that heavy, unable to move feeling for the first half of the trip.  Then during the second half the energy usually kicks in and I'm amped.  But every trip is different.  You should try it again.




So when I tried it, this was...something like a dozen years ago. At least.

I used the boil down method of boiling and straining for some 8 hours or whatever it was. And I did a terrible job for the record as I was left with like 20 ounces of that sludge.

Is there any better, quicker ways of preparing and consuming?


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    #26470928 - 02/05/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

There are many ways to do it.  The tea method is my favorite.  If you let the tea sit in the fridge for a couple of days then the particles will separate and settle to the bottom.  Then you can pour off the liquid and discard the particles.  The liquid you are left with is a lot easier on the stomach and causes less nausea.  Those particles are really nasty to drink.


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    #26470975 - 02/05/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks. I'll look into the tea method.


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    #26471002 - 02/05/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The tea method is what you already described: boiling the cactus in water for hours and then straining out the cactus.


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    #26471047 - 02/05/20 08:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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The tea method is what you already described: boiling the cactus in water for hours and then straining out the cactus.




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    #26471055 - 02/05/20 08:24 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

No worries.  I only ever ate the raw cactus and drank the tea.  But there are people here who have tried other methods.  Pandemoon has a great sounding method for making resin balls.  But tea is the classic method.  It definitely works.  The more you do it the more you tweak the routine and get a little better everytime.


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    #26471057 - 02/05/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I only ever ate the raw cactus




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    #26471066 - 02/05/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

At first it wasnt bad.  You just pull out the spines with pliers.  Then you peel off the waxy outer skin.  If the core is woody you can discard it.  And you eat everything else.

Its really efficient.  Nothing gets wasted.  But you're limited by how much cactus you can eat.  And for me, the taste kept getting worse and worse everytime.

They key is to use potent cactus, like bridgesii.  For getting aquantained with the cactus, using smaller doses of potent cactus... used like that its a pretty good method.


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    #26471211 - 02/05/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

LSD.

Mushrooms are a close second though.

Edit; Also, 5-meo-dmt sucks.


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