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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26466687 - 02/03/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Yes, acid can be extremely intense and powerful. No, it is not as powerful as shrooms, DMT, or even mescaline. That is not just my subjective experience (haven't even tried DMT yet), but is actually scientific fact, based on multiple studies that give users questionnaires and give a numerical value to the sum total of their symptoms.



This is something I’ve had a bit of a problem with myself, I think there are far too many factors to consider. I was an 18 year old wannabe badass so I said fuck acid, fuck shrooms I’m going to do the strongest psychedelic known to man. DMT made me its bitch every time I used it, but after trying LSD while on shrooms after a few experiences with .5-1.5g of shrooms it was the most powerful experience of my life so far. I can respect the fact that DMT makes me question everything in humanity, and it’s definitely the most intense experience while it lasts. But I chose the guidance of LSD and shrooms showed me the path. Psychedelics by themselves each pose unique characteristics but scientifically quantification of them is impossible. We don’t even have the slightest clue to their value on humanity yet and won’t recognize it until they are finally accepted as a societal norm and we’re not viewed as psychopaths


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26466699 - 02/03/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

What I say you can't prove with "scientific facts" xD or studies. I have no doubt that for example shrooms will be visually more intense to the un-experienced user or in any other way whatever. But that doesn't mean that lsd is less powerful then shrooms.

It's stupid to even discuss what psychedelic is more powerful then the other because there is no limit to their power. Some get you faster to breakthrough experiences then others but it doesn't matter.

Maybe I shouldn't have labeled it as "very powerful" but it was more based on the small amount you need to feel it.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26466827 - 02/03/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Measured in effect of active dose (which is the more relevant metric) it is the weakest.




So would an active dose of mushrooms be 3.5g of dried cubes and for LSD it would be 1 tab (150ug)? The highest mushroom dose I've taken was 2.4g which was a little more wild than LSD as far as sensation and headspace goes but 1 tab of LSD is much more visual than 2.4g of mushrooms in my experience


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: TokeItUp12]
    #26466916 - 02/03/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Measured in effect of active dose (which is the more relevant metric) it is the weakest.




So would an active dose of mushrooms be 3.5g of dried cubes and for LSD it would be 1 tab (150ug)? The highest mushroom dose I've taken was 2.4g which was a little more wild than LSD as far as sensation and headspace goes but 1 tab of LSD is much more visual than 2.4g of mushrooms in my experience</font>



From my experience I would compare my experience from half an eighth of shrooms to a bit of acid. There’s an equilibrium between them all it’s just that the perspective the scientific community has a definitive value and they don’t try to find the equilibrium between the experiences instead of the difference


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26466934 - 02/03/20 02:37 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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That is not just my subjective experience, but is actually scientific fact,




Now that's a bunch of bullshit, mmmkay.




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i prefer mushrooms, they're fun and i always feel something good comes out of every trip

tried dmt a few times but i don't really enjoy it
i feel like it isn't teaching me much and for how gross smoking it is i say it's not worth it

lsd is great, music while tripping is like discovering the 5th dimension, but i think i took a bit too much too early and now i can't not worry about my mental health every time i consider taking. (i haven't taken any for about 1 year)

these 3 are the only psychedelics i tried, am looking forward to trying mescaline tho, reading carlos castaneda's "the teachings of don juan" really sparked an interest for the cacti


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: TokeItUp12]
    #26467456 - 02/03/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

LSD, I think. Now anyway.

I grew mushrooms for...idk, almost 5 years straight. So I had a pretty much continuous supply. I have a deep love for the mushroom and will forever until I go into the ground, but I'm at a point now where I'm not nearly as into the spiritual aspect at this stage of my life. Now don't get me wrong I still crave the introspection of psychedelics, as it's one of the best parts about them (if not THE best). But after years exploring the spiritual side I'm more into the recreational aspect now, with just enough of the introspection on the side (which to me an LSD trip has a nice balance of).

Mushrooms, to me anyway, are a little too dark and sinister for me these days, whereas LSD has a more recreational/fun vibe than mushrooms to me for the most part.

That said, who knows, maybe in time I'll come full circle in time and crave mushrooms more again.

Oh yeah, and unlike a lot of folks I prefer the significantly longer duration of an LSD experience.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26467495 - 02/03/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The power of psychedelics is dosage dependent.  If you up the dose high enough all of them are strong as hell.  Saying that LSD is weaker or stronger than another psychedelic misses the point.  It all depends on the dose.

My favorite psychedelic is mescaline.  And its not even close.  It lasts really long.  Its very visual.  It works on both the mind AND BODY.  And it always teaches me something valuable.  When everything goes right, a good mescaline trip is like riding a tsunami of euphoria and energy, with the greatest mental sharpness and clarity imaginable, all the while being deeply immersed in the psychedelic realm, with all of the awe and visual splendor that awaits there.  I've never felt so alive, and so happy to be alive, as during some of those trips with San Pedro.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Grey Fox]
    #26467584 - 02/03/20 09:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I've only dosed this three times ever, but I think this is my favorite so far.

AL-LAD

I'd like to say this with caution as I don't believe it has been nearly as widely tested or consumed as other staples in the psychedelic bag o' tricks. Would probably call it a research chemical at this point..

Shulgin at one point composed the stuff and then wrote about his experiences in one of his books.

I found it several years ago and had a 10 strip of it. Was identical to this photo and was labeled so people would not misrepresent it as something else. (Two thumbs up to the maker(s)!)



I really enjoyed the stuff. Very very visual...  but not mentally chaotic at any point. My hearing seemed extremely crisp and music made for an incredible experience.

I didn't experience the body load that I commonly have with L and shrooms, but it did make me sweat profusely while I was dancing the second time I dosed. As in, looked like I had just climbed out of a pool sweaty. At one point my buddy came up and slapped my back and it sprayed him... so that was a strange kind of extreme side effect. Once I settled down and got off the dancefloor, the sweating stopped like normal... but I don't think I've ever leaked that much water in my life.

The high was about half the duration of a standard mid level acid trip at about 6 hours which was one of the great notes in my eyes.

There have been lots of situations where I would have loved to dose, but didn't quite have the solid 2 days min to reach out and then come back to Earth and recover that L requires.

Interestingly, AL-LAD is an analog to LSD.

So LSD is a precursor chemical to make AL-LAD, if I understand correctly.

I did not experience any negative side effects during any of my 3 trips.

I took one blotter square my first time and it was great. I calmly sat and listened to music through headphones and smoked weed. Had an epic moment listening to Daft Punk's album Random Access Memories and realized the one song is talking about the birth of the 4x4 beat which makes up the vast majority of electronic music out there. But they don't spell it out in the song... it's kind of alluded to- but high on AL-LAD I was picking up exactly what they were hinting at.

Anyway, on 2 tabs, the visuals were awesome. Not disorienting. Very trippy though. Was at a show in a new club just opened in a casino. Casinos already have all kinds of time and space dilating features even to a sober person... so the club was really a trip. Everything kind of had a rainbow sheen like oil on water. Sparkles and such. There was little audio distortion- music sounded absolutely amazing.

Anyway, probably my favorite. Something I would definitely do again. Unfortunately there is little economic reason for anyone to make the stuff unless they're personally interested because it is adding steps to an already complex procedure to produce something not as long lasting as the precursor itself, LSD.



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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: susurrador]
    #26467596 - 02/03/20 09:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I’ll always have a soft spot for cid, my favorite. Mushrooms tend to give me a lot of anxiety. I was really happy to reconnect with an old acid buddy the other day on fb. We partied a lot in the mid 90s. A friend of my older brothers. He would come over just about every day. He gave me my first hit ever and 100s more after that. Always had a good time when he was around. Grill , play hackey sack ect. I might grow these mushies out only to find I still don’t like them. Give it the ole college try at least a few dozen time. I’m sure the anxiety is just because the first of 2-3 times I ate a whole quarter. It was a rough night even for someone who Had tripped as much as I used to.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: D3_Myc]
    #26467604 - 02/03/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Dramamine on the other hand is the devil, which I’m pretty sure I seen that night along with terrantulas, cobwebs everywhere, teleportation and auditory hallucinations... I was probably dying. That shit wild, only did it twice. Maybe 3 times.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: D3_Myc]
    #26467628 - 02/03/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Dramamine on the other hand is the devil, which I’m pretty sure I seen that night along with terrantulas, cobwebs everywhere, teleportation and auditory hallucinations... I was probably dying. That shit wild, only did it twice. Maybe 3 times.



Why are you getting high on dramamine?

two tablets work great for motion sickness or to help you fall asleep, anything else and you are asking for trouble, might as well huff petrol. :methisgood:


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: D3_Myc]
    #26467636 - 02/03/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

For me the body high on shrooms is what I dont like compared to acid. On CID I can feel free to move where mushrooms like me to stay sedentary pretty much the whole time. I've also noticed that mushrooms like it dark where it doesnt matter so much with LSD. And social situations are very anxiety provoking with mushrooms compared to LSD


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #26467879 - 02/04/20 04:32 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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D3monic said:
Dramamine on the other hand is the devil, which I’m pretty sure I seen that night along with terrantulas, cobwebs everywhere, teleportation and auditory hallucinations... I was probably dying. That shit wild, only did it twice. Maybe 3 times.



Why are you getting high on dramamine?

two tablets work great for motion sickness or to help you fall asleep, anything else and you are asking for trouble, might as well huff petrol. :methisgood:




I was a teen and stupid, 12-15 tabs def induces some crazy trips and vertigo but I’d never recommend


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: D3_Myc]
    #26468226 - 02/04/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Dramamine on the other hand is the devil, which I’m pretty sure I seen that night along with terrantulas, cobwebs everywhere, teleportation and auditory hallucinations... I was probably dying. That shit wild, only did it twice. Maybe 3 times.




I’ve had strong liberty cap experiences many years ago that gave a deliriant-type effect. Check out the first pick on the Psyhconaut Wiki page for deliriants: Deliriant

(Not bragging by the way, those trips were pretty horrible)


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26468324 - 02/04/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Korean Jesus said:
Yes, acid can be extremely intense and powerful. No, it is not as powerful as shrooms, DMT, or even mescaline. That is not just my subjective experience (haven't even tried DMT yet), but is actually scientific fact, based on multiple studies that give users questionnaires and give a numerical value to the sum total of their symptoms.



I’d say by weight LSD is by far the most potent classic psychedelic. Iv never had mushrooms take me as far as LSD. Iv eaten half oz of shrooms and it not fuck me up like 6 or 7 hits of pure L.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26468367 - 02/04/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Dramamine on the other hand is the devil, which I’m pretty sure I seen that night along with terrantulas, cobwebs everywhere, teleportation and auditory hallucinations... I was probably dying. That shit wild, only did it twice. Maybe 3 times.




I’ve had strong liberty cap experiences many years ago that gave a deliriant-type effect. Check out the first pick on the Psyhconaut Wiki page for deliriants: Deliriant

(Not bragging by the way, those trips were pretty horrible)




That was a good read, almost makes me want to do dramamine again... so wild. I’d be at my kitchen table, then next thing I know I’m hanging out with friends talking walking through a spooky forest at night only to warp back to my kitchen table moments later. Had a friend wig out, was chasing his mom around the house calling out to her only she was really in bed. He got grounded for like 6 months. I imagine what it might be like to be schizophrenic


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: D3_Myc]
    #26468627 - 02/04/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It’s pretty damn scary, to be fair, d3monic. I’ve been some scary places; but the thought of it permanent....sh1t!


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: TokeItUp12]
    #26468653 - 02/04/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Whatever is ones favorite, moderation and limitation of use ensures it remains ones favorite.

To much of a good thing sucks.


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #26469085 - 02/04/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Psilocybin


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Re: Favorite Psychedelic Substance [Re: Grey Fox]
    #26469194 - 02/04/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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My favorite psychedelic is mescaline.  And its not even close.  It lasts really long.  Its very visual.  It works on both the mind AND BODY.  And it always teaches me something valuable.  When everything goes right, a good mescaline trip is like riding a tsunami of euphoria and energy, with the greatest mental sharpness and clarity imaginable, all the while being deeply immersed in the psychedelic realm, with all of the awe and visual splendor that awaits there.  I've never felt so alive, and so happy to be alive, as during some of those trips with San Pedro.




I only have had one San Pedro experience in my entire life, and I think I made a big mistake by not purging.

Because the body load kept me basically glued to the couch the entire time. And it was a long time, lol.


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