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Weak trip from 1st batch
    #26464511 - 02/02/20 12:29 AM (4 years, 15 days ago)

So I tripped off 3gs of my first grow with my gf and I'm slightly disappointed with the potency. I used the search engine to see what exactly affects potency and from what I've read it seems to be genetics. I did just air dry the mushrooms and am curious as to how much that affects potency exactly? Thanks fellas.


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: Splash_damage]
    #26464531 - 02/02/20 01:10 AM (4 years, 15 days ago)

drying doesn’t reduce potency at all. tea isn’t any less potent & that boils the mushrooms at a much bite temperature than most methods of drying

sometimes you just get unlucky man /: have you tripped on shrooms before? or was this also your first time trying them? also, do you mean 3g each or did you split the 3gs?


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: hazyhorse]
    #26464560 - 02/02/20 02:17 AM (4 years, 14 days ago)

3 grams each. This was my 1st trip off of mushrooms that I've grown but I've tripped on mushrooms about 4 times. I'm sorry I may have not been clear - I was wondering if air drying makes the mushrooms less potent compared to when they're dried in a dehydrator.


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: hazyhorse]
    #26464561 - 02/02/20 02:18 AM (4 years, 14 days ago)

Get a dehydrator, there a lot of info here saying air drying affects potency. They could have just been week shrooms but maybe it was more than that:shrug:


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: SFS96]
    #26464564 - 02/02/20 02:23 AM (4 years, 14 days ago)

That's what I'm hoping friend! I just read a few comments and wanted to make sure that the consensus is dehydrator = more potency. I know bod and mushboy both say use a dehydrator but I thought that was more along the lines of better shelf life/stability not in terms of potency. Thanks for the input!


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: Splash_damage]
    #26464582 - 02/02/20 02:57 AM (4 years, 14 days ago)

unless they were sitting out for an obscenely long time or they were under sunlight or something idk that properly air dried shrooms would lose much noticeable potency...

but you should just get a dehydrator anyways if you’re planning on growing more. super worth it, even just to run a few shrooms. smaller batches are dry in like 3 hours

you might have gotten unlucky w the genetics, multispore batches are all over the place. guess you’ll just have to grow more & try again ;D


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: hazyhorse]
    #26464587 - 02/02/20 03:03 AM (4 years, 14 days ago)

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guess you’ll just have to grow more & try again ;D




This won't be a problem! I've been having a blast growing these things.


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: Splash_damage]
    #26464730 - 02/02/20 06:55 AM (4 years, 14 days ago)

i dont think its that dehydrator increases potency so much as inadequate drying effecting potency in a negative way. psilocybin is sensitive to oxidation and as such can lose potency.


if you air dried them they arent dry. moisture and humidity are your enemy here so use a dehydrator to pull out as much as possible.


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: badmojo420]
    #26464746 - 02/02/20 07:08 AM (4 years, 14 days ago)

So psilocybin will oxygenate when the surface of the mushroom is damaged this is why it turns blue. So this leads me to believe the longer that a mushroom is exposed to oxygen you might have a drop in potency. This is why most people prefer a dehydrator. I have heard that the potency is negligible or even so hard to measure because it is all based on each person's experience.

I believe genetics are much more important than drying technique. Did you grow from MS? Also, the last times you had mushrooms do you know if they were P Cube?


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: Sockadin] * 1
    #26464790 - 02/02/20 07:55 AM (4 years, 14 days ago)

Some of them just aren’t potent.  I started growing last year and have gone through about 10 varieties.  Some have been stronger that others, spread across varieties and the same grows.  I’ve eaten them wet and dry and it hasn’t made a difference.  From what I understand the better you get at growing, the more you an isolate an clone the stronger cubes.


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: SYF8]
    #26464841 - 02/02/20 08:38 AM (4 years, 14 days ago)

Yes if it turns out they're just a week batch I will try to isolate a strain. The last mushrooms I had we're cubes and they were significantly stronger. They were sitting on a plate chillin in open air for about a week and a half so that could be a factor. I'm still crossing my fingers it's just me being a dumbass!


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: Splash_damage]
    #26464862 - 02/02/20 08:53 AM (4 years, 14 days ago)

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idk that properly air dried shrooms would lose much noticeable potency...




Theres no such thing as properly air dried shrooms IMO... that being said it’s probably still mostly a genetic issue. What variety was it?


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: Splash_damage]
    #26464913 - 02/02/20 09:19 AM (4 years, 14 days ago)

You could also try eating them wet next time as some people swear you trip harder off wet shroomies. I can’t say I have tried them wet so I can’t say but I will be experimenting soon as I’m about to spawn my first few jars in a few days!


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: MushkingMulah360]
    #26464998 - 02/02/20 10:01 AM (4 years, 14 days ago)

Anecdotally I always trip harder on Wet Shrooms. But I also think I get a much more intense body high as well.


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: Sockadin]
    #26465105 - 02/02/20 11:13 AM (4 years, 14 days ago)

Wet shrooms still have psilocin in them.

Sometimes they’re just not that great. I’d bet it’s prob 90% genetics


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: A.k.a]
    #26465114 - 02/02/20 11:17 AM (4 years, 14 days ago)

It’s genetics. My first batch got complaints too. Had to eat a bunch of stems to find a good clone, and when I did I started getting some of the most potent mushrooms me or my homies had ever eaten. Cube-wise that is.


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: SFS96]
    #26465121 - 02/02/20 11:20 AM (4 years, 14 days ago)

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idk that properly air dried shrooms would lose much noticeable potency...




Theres no such thing as properly air dried shrooms IMO... that being said it’s probably still mostly a genetic issue. What variety was it?




To be honest I got a syringe from someone on reddit and it just says rw on it. I thought it was rusty white but these look like regular-ass cubes to me - no albinism if that's the correct term. Unfortunately I can't really get my hands on more spores because I live somewhere spores are regulated. I will try them wet! The first mushroom that popped up in my tub I ate wet before going to the movies and I felt like I micro-dosed some L. Thanks guys!


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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26465125 - 02/02/20 11:21 AM (4 years, 14 days ago)

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It’s genetics. My first batch got complaints too. Had to eat a bunch of stems to find a good clone, and when I did I started getting some of the most potent mushrooms me or my homies had ever eaten. Cube-wise that is.




Did you have to take a break between eating the stems to reduce tolerance? I would like to get a good strain going ASAP so I'm unsure on the exact timeframe.

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Re: Weak trip from 1st batch [Re: Splash_damage]
    #26465232 - 02/02/20 12:53 PM (4 years, 14 days ago)

The remedy for less than ideal genetics is to just eat more. The last batch I grew was not super potent. I was eating a minimum of 5 grams to reach tripville. Thats the great thing about being a cultivator though. Shrooms not that great? Well I'll just grow another batch of a different strain or species. Potentially an endless supply at your disposal.


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