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First time mushrooms (5.2g) / Reptilian connection, awakening from the dream and distorted reality
    #26464559 - 02/02/20 02:16 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

While travelling in Indonesia, I had the pleasure to do heroic dose in a safe supportive environment. Out of the 8 people at the place, only 1 chose to stay sober. There was one special guy, let's call him Ralf. Ralf is older guy, he has done many mushroom trips, smoked DMT and he's definitely a seeker. He saved me when I lost control of myself and helped me to come back. I thank rest of the crew for providing an awesome vibe. I had no fear what so ever during the experience.

Story behind 5.2g:
Other members had done trips earlier and were complaining that "strong" dose wasn't strong enough (anymore). My host is a funny talkative guy. I asked him afterwards how strong was the dose. His final answer was 5.2g. We all had that same dose, including 1 another person who had never tried mushrooms.

My background:
I'm mid 20's guy. I follow buddhism and I was into theosophy for long time. I had already had the insight from meditation that death does not exist. I had very strong experiences with kundalini/piti/rapture, giving me the insight that there is something supernatural out there, whether that's soul or a spirit. I had many out of body-experiences during sleep, and very vivid dreams for 1 month straight. Those things were always making me question reality more. I have never drinked alcohol or smoked, so this was my first time taking a strong drug and losing control of myself.

Before this trip I had mild stomach pains and small fever. I eat 2 banana's before the trip to get energy and then take the mushroom smoothie on an empty stomach later.
First 1 hour nothing seems to be happening. We just lay down at the camp. I feel that something is not right. Only thing worth mentioning is how words and thoughts didn't feel solid anymore. When I thought of words, the letters vanished like ash into the air. My experience begins when I to the kitchen to get food.

While someone creates the dinner plate for me, I already feel glimpses of intense joy. He asks whether I want chicken and I just happily reply "Okay" and nod my head to everything.
What happens next is some form of ego breakdown. I sit down to eat with others. When eating socially, there's a lot of self-control and maintaining composure. This time I just couldn't keep up. I'm laughing hysterically with more and more joy. I decide to go to my room to eat alone.
I don't eat much because more and more of this spontanious joy keeps coming up and I laugh it out.
Next I stand up. Joy is still there, but I start to feel the negativity that has been haunting my thoughts. This is one of the key parts of my trip.
To get rid of this negativity, I start pulling and pushing the negativity away. I begin to speak a language that sounds Arabic. Others referred it to as Harry Potter snake-like. This language was not native to me. I created it by feeling and speaking the energy around me. This became the next essential part of my experience.

I walk out of my bungalow. At this point I realize that speaking words didn't make sense anymore. I feel connected to the energy all around me and this Arabic language becomes my form of expression.
I realize that all of reality is just energy. I remember walking up to the camp and saying to others "Sorry if you're not experiencing the same, but my experience is fantastic". As I leave, I speak more Arabic with hand gestures, as if I'm speaking to/with someone. I did this because I was trying to come up with "words" to explain my experience.

Next parts and the timeline are unclear to me. I begin to merge with this entity I am speaking with. My sense of reality is fading. At this point everything was still totally clear to me and I was in control. Normal 5 senses reality without hallucications, I just became totally connected to the energy and nature around me. I spend rest of the trip alone exploring this new world, but I have a few interactions with others. That's coming up in part 2 later.


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Re: First time mushrooms / Level 5 trip report? (5.2g) [Re: nomorefear]
    #26464570 - 02/02/20 02:32 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like a solid trip with a bunch of decent people 👍🏻

Can’t wait for part 2.....


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Part 2: Reptilian encounter, DMT room, euphoric realizations and distorted reality [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26464644 - 02/02/20 04:49 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

As the subject says, there's a lot to cover.

This middle part of the trip with reptilian possession is the most unclear to me. I asked the crew later what did I do during the trip?
They said that I was mostly just walking around the camping area and speaking weird language. Others stayed at the lodge by the fireside, having a "normal trip".
What I can remember:
I remember being at the lodge and taking out my wallet. The older woman puts it back into my pocket and seems worried about me. Next is total blackout memory wise.
Reptilian encounter: There came a point where I got aggressive towards Ralf. I tried to pull his hair and grab his arms. He's much stronger and athletic than me. I got pulled to the ground. Ralf said that at this point "It wasn't you". It was the entity taking over me. As I was on the ground unable to defend myself, Ralf describes how I looked into his eyes with a hypnotizing stare. In that 0.1 seconds moment I was downloading his mind and consciousness (much like grey aliens do). He resisted it and turned his head away. The crew also described how I was licking my tongue a lot and sticking it out (reptilian style).
Next memory: I'm on the ground laying down and I hear the words "this will ground you". I'm like WTF spiritual talk and I resist the words. But later I realized that this was the point when I came back from the entity takeover. I think what happens next is that I stand up and ask one of the staff to take me to my room. It's like temporarily I was back to 5 senses again.
This is why I was super grateful to have Ralf in the crew. I later read how reptilians behave in antisocial ways. Maybe this reptilian taking me over was the antisocial part of me. If I got triggered somehow, it could have been a lot worse had there not been experienced tripper around. Ralf also knew to look away. I can only wonder what would have happened if someone kept staring into my eyes during that moment.
Next day a lot of people asked me how I felt. My standard response was that I felt just fine and normal. I didn't feel possessed at all. I don't know why the entity took me over in that fashion, and was it really an evil attempt. If this entity is part of me, past life or soul connection, I'm okay with it and don't try to fight it.

DMT Room / Euphoric realizations
I'm back in my room now and I start to eat. Having already made this connection to the energy and reality around me, I now get the idea to conjure food using the language I "learned". In my own words, you can conjure consciousness to create more food. Reality is consciousness with energy. And I had a strong sense that I can morph it. This was key part of my experience!
When I was doing this, the euphoria kicked in again. I realized that I can conjure all the food that I need and my body will never die. This was one of the biggest euphoric highs of the trip. I did eventually run out of chicken, but the rice seemed endless. As I was conjuring it, I kept spilling it away, later realizing what a mess I had made :blush: :grin:
This was also when I realized that reality is a simulation and we had been living life in ultra-slow mode (UP TO THIS POINT!). We just slowly keep grinding more money into our bank accounts and that is what bounds us. But in that moment it's like I was experiencing the totality of life all at once. Realization kicked in that I had fully awakened (from the dream) and thought that this experience would last forever.

DMT Room
Before the trip I didn't know what DMT really was, I had only heard of the spirit molecule term. I stayed in this simple wooden bungalow. But as I looked at the wallpapers, they had similar texture to this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DMT/comments/8ebtjs/the_most_accurate_representation_of_dmt_entities/
More later, but I'm not visual person at all. I wasn't interested in visuals because I was already occupied by this energy matrix. I was even afraid of the visuals and wanted to keep them down.
The room was moving with these visuals. I closed my eyes and I saw blue-bordered squares with red dot in the center on a black background. This "net" kept expanding slowly. At this point I realized I was tripping hard.
(the first one, but with only 3 colors, blue red and black)
https://66.media.tumblr.com/37d2a2cca99fdb2ef1d45b5c37e2e434/770cd52d94f98c67-fd/s500x750/7e088adc64e48b35bfa8b782dac861176ed99fb2.png

Distorted reality
When most people talk about taking mushrooms, they describe the funny visuals. I am extremely analytical person with no visual talent. My handwriting is terrible and I can't draw. This begins the next part of my experience.
So I'm in the DMT room. My wallet is spread out on the mattress. Instead of 8 credit card slots, there's like 16 and wallet is double the size. I have multiple ID and credit cards. This all just added up to the illusion like experience. What was real at this point anymore (if I could just create more cards)?
I had banknotes on the mattress. I thought about trying to conjure money but the banknotes were the same amount.
I looked at my iPhone and this is funny. I tested multiple times, and wondered when did iPhones started to swipe from right to left.
So instead of geometric visuals for instance, I just saw a static world with logical inconsistencies.

This is where my DMT room experience ends. I open the door. I channel some more Arabic and hug the walls. Lady on the next bungalow is sober and I do feel a little sad for her. Me and her are in a totally different world.


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Part 3: transcended, heightened states [Re: nomorefear]
    #26467854 - 02/04/20 02:52 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Part 3:
I will now discuss last stages of my trip. At this point the reptilian and the crazy language in me was gone. It's almost like I had taken a quick nap and woken up very refreshed. I'm back into normal grounded "me" again.
I haven't read other people's level 4/5 experience reports. I quickly googled the 5 trip stages, and level 4+ seems to be associated with total loss of reality and ego death.
I don't like the term "ego death" to describe my experience. I already had multiple ego death's from spiritual practices, realizing that there was something much higher than the little "Doer" of Me.
I talked about the loss of the controller. The controller was gone and the feeling of euphoria took its place. Maybe that was the last remnants of ego dying in that experience. I believe that because of my background, there was less things to "realize" for me. And it's almost like I got invited to see higher realms right away.

I like the words "transcended heightened state". I described how the slow-mode experience of life ended for me in the trip. I felt totally transcended, like this was it, almost like the end of "life" as we know it. I would continue to live in this dream-like spirit realm.
Normal 5-sense-reality is gone at this point, where you take input, output and process it. Reality looks normal, although distorted. My memory is vague and I can't put my words into it, but the world at this point felt very dream like. It's like the visual field was enhanced somehow. This is something to explore in future trips.
Sinking deeper and deeper into the dream would be perfect metaphor for part 3.

Meeting others:
This will be brief as I can't remember much. I walk up to the lodge to see others. I give the biggest high-five and hug to a staff member. I say to him and others "It was a dream all along...!"
I'm feeling transcended and I expected some others too. It's like they had known this state all along. Indonesian people have long history with magic mushrooms, how would they not know this upgraded human experience???
I later ask him "Will I die?" multiple times. I asked this genuine question because I felt like I couldn't die anymore or I was unsure how it would end.

My body
At this point I'm still walking, but my upper body feels alleviated like it's levitating. Best way to describe it would be as if I didn't have spine anymore. It's very hard to give like a center-point that would ground me to earth. Normally the spine limits our physical movement.
I have multiple thoughts, like: "What is sexuality in this state?" "How do you do yoga if you don't have spine?" How do you give massage and what is reiki like?
The genie from Aladdin is one way to describe the state:
https://www.kindpng.com/picc/m/99-991166_aladdin-genie-png-download-transparent-aladdin-genie-png.png

The only thing grounding me was the fact that I had a fever. When you have a fever, it's hard to control your bladder. I ask others whether I had wet myself or tried to suggest that I had to take a piss. I'm little embarrassed by this, but it was literally the only thing grounding me, while the rest of me was feeling elevated.

The human body:
During the later part of the experience, everyone had 4 hands (2+2), 4 legs and 6 fingers each hand (5+1). It's also like I had 2 waists morphing together. I didn't check my private parts. I created multiple rules as I was tripping. 1) Respect others privacy 2) No nudity 3) Leave the dogs and animals alone 4) Respect private property.
I counted one guy's fingers multiple times. 1,2,3,4,5 + 6. It's crazy how every finger felt physical.
To get an idea what 4 hands was like, I squeeze his arms to feel strength.
For me this was not hallucination. It was distorted reality. Everything in my view was static but of course I was tripping. Later on I would stretch and expand my arms, that's more hallucination like.

I don't know why I experienced reality this way. Did I just take too high dose or was it my analytical left-brain overload? Normally hallucination visuals happen slowly right? This was more like I closed my eyes and woke up with reality changed.


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Part 4: The enlightenment cafe / heavenly terrace and comeback [Re: nomorefear]
    #26467900 - 02/04/20 05:10 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Only one experience left to report.

I stay chatting a while with others. I'm testing how this unbounded body feels. Everyone has 4 arms but it feels normal, faces are the same. Dogs are the same. Environment looks the same.
I stand up on the sofa and reach for the lights because I'm feeling elevated. Others quickly bring me down. Everything is happening slow-motion flow-like. Girl was resting on the sofa and I touch her, but then I take my hand off after she mumbles "No". I want to point that out because I was a little delirious here. Others were having a normal trip, but I lost myself so to speak, so my judgement became poor! I needed others to keep me in control.
I walk down the stairs to go away from the lodge with staff member. I break one of my rules here and take off my pants. Not because I'm pervert, but I felt so unbounded and happy like we didn't have to follow rules anymore. He seemed high as well, didn't bother and gave me a "why not" stare.
My theory is that I actually walk down to the bathroom and pass out there. I came back (woke up) without my pants on  but there could be another explanation to it.

The enlightenment cafe / heavenly terrace
This was the peak of my trip. I actually have real physical memory of walking up the stairs but it is EXTREMELY DREAM-LIKE! Landscape looks a bit different. It's not the same plants and bushes, it's more like beautiful trees, flowers and all the good stuff you can create visually. I get a strange sense that I planted them.
There was 2 stairs to the camp, left and right. I took the left stairs, but I remember entering the lodge from the right. So there is some confusion about the details and it makes me wonder whether it was out of body experience. I don't recall anything after the peak experience, that's where it all ended. I had experienced similar euphoric high during an out of body-experience (while sleeping), where last moments are just pure intensifying joy.
So I walk to the fireside. People seem different now and so does the area. I'm hit with this high energy.
In my own words, it feels like the people there are fully transcended beings who have awakened from the dream and await for others there. That's why I call it the enlightenment cafe. Reality was all a dream. You just had to wake up. It gets a bit emotional for me here to describe the experience.
Pure joy hits me as I see these people. It's like a heavenly terrace and they await me there with a trophy.

The comeback
I wake up at the outdoors bathroom without my pants on. I take like 5 minutes to stand up and collect my stuff. I'm still feeling elevated, but try to rationalize why I have to take things like my wallet with me.
I'm confused now. I get a sense that the same people are still there. But I shout "Does anyone speak my language?" to be sure.
I make way to my bungalow. I have some encounters with others. I ask where is my phone, and say that when I get my phone, I can fully "come back". I have sense that I had done something stupid. While in my room, in hindsight I experience a normal end-trip high. Its that thing when others are happy and then it hits you in waves. Good music is playing, everything is slow.
I look at my phone multiple times and get different clock every time. I realize that I'm coming back and that it's time to live life slow-mode again and sigh a few times.

Final comeback
Before the final one, I come back once again. This time I'm totally confused identity wise. I'm feeling happy and I felt really motivated to pick up my phone and call my parents, tell them that I got life-changing experience in Indonesia. Gladly I didn't.
When I finally come back, I have no idea where I am. My bungalow door is open. I keep thinking that I'm at a beach town somewhere. I worry that I might have gotten robbed. I have no idea how I got here, I only knew that I'm in Indonesia. I check my wallet, online bank and map location like 5 times. I look at my iPhone apps and feel strange satisfaction to be back in normal reality again.
Once I'm convinced that all my personal belongings are safe, I feel a total sense of completion inside. I could have lifted off anywhere now because my life felt completed at that moment. I'm still paranoid and take my bag and luggage with me just to take a quick piss. Hotel staff meets me outside after I'm done, asks whether I'm checking in, and that's where I remember things again. I have chat with the guy, I'm worried about payments and what had happened, but he says "don't worry, we talk tomorrow". So nothing bad happened, I didn't break anything, wallet was safe, but I was totally confused.
I blacked out or passed out multiple times during the trip. And when I came back, I was totally delirious. That's why I'm glad I did this experience at a safe place with supporting environment. My wallet could have easily been stolen, or I would have handed out my money in euphoric high.
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My style of writing is a little long, I keep editing and adding small things here and there. I hope it was good though. The trip was nothing I could have expected. I didn't know how high the dose was when taking it.
I later watched around 8 new people take shrooms, some for the first time. No one had anything close to this experience. Everyone just tripping, feeling happy, seeing bright colors and funny visuals.
I learned the importance of eating while tripping. It was only after I had energy that I could experience it all. The woman who took the same dose was feeling sick that day and didn't eat anything. Those 8 people later fasted most of the experience too.
I think it's also important to be around others while tripping. I spent ½ of my 2nd trip alone and it just didn't kick off until I went to see others.
I hope to not sound arrogant, make claims or anything like that. For me it was just like the stage was set. I had done the pre-work and that's why the experience totally kicked off.

Some final thoughts: While the experience was very enlightening, the buddhist-me is still skeptical. I think there's a chance that we get to see what we want to see. I was seeking enlightening experience and that's what I got. That's what I believed in. The idea of the "dream" was something I knew already. That got confirmed.
Some things were very real though. DMT visuals and the reptilian encounter. Me and Ralf both knew about reptilians, but we weren't believers. Now we both are :wink:
The language that I spoke while tripping. I don't think I made it up. I spoke it quite fluently and made hand gestures like I was speaking full sentences. It sounds closest to Hebrew language. When you speak it, you have to speak it passionately and feel the energy.
The idea that consciousness is energy and you can morph it, that's not something we can verify. It happened very early in the experience, so it's more likely to have truth in it.
I'm not sure if I should take another 5g dose at the same place next time. I'm only worried about blacking out and losing myself again.


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Re: Part 4: The enlightenment cafe / heavenly terrace and comeback [Re: nomorefear]
    #26468005 - 02/04/20 07:20 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Quick 2nd trip report. This is more boring one :tongue:
I had no side effects from the 1st trip.
2 days later people have soft trip. I take small sip from everyone but it doesn't kick off. Later I eat one mushroom raw.
I feel like I lost the center point in my head and feel a little off. I'm reminded of the reptilian experience and I'm very self-conscious to see if there's any reptilian like behaviour in me. My eyes are moving back and forth quickly and I avoid eye contact, but I could have made that up.

4 days later, I now take strong dose (3g+). It's offered as juice with red bull. I don't feel good from the caffeine. Trip starts slowly and I never blacked out or lost it this time. Ralf says to me "This is what normal trip is like". The vibe is off this time and many people aren't "feeling it".
Only thing worth mentioning is that when the effects are rising, I start to move my palms in a wave-like fashion when walking. I was very conscious of my tongue this time. I kept moving it back and forth side to side which feels very uncomfortable now. I become okay with the idea that maybe I might have some reptilian history or a connection.
I take a walk and there's some plastic trash. The colors look very bright to me and I'm amazed.
I'm not feeling the effects though, and check out to my room. I feel sick, first like a blood sugar high. Then I feel very sick and seriously worry if I had eaten "the wrong mushroom". This is bad trip for me and I want it to end. But eventually like 40 minutes later, I eat food and slowly come back. While feeling sick, I didn't give in to the experience but I felt the option was there to intensify it.
I decide to go out now while still a little sick, but I feel very good later. The vibe is okay. I'm feeling very high now. It's like Shorty from Scary movie type high. I later tried a joint, but it just made me very relaxed.
https://i.gifer.com/PO0j.gif
Having never taken drugs this is an awesome feeling and an elevated state. I lose it quickly though. I only realize I'm high when I start to listen someone talk and can't process what I hear. My brain is in very slow-mode and I feel a little silly but very happy. While high, I could feel other peoples energy. This one guy gave off awesome energy and I realized I like his company a lot when high.
But 1 hour later I'm back to my normal boring self again. Not a good trip, but a learning experience. I worried too much whether the effects had died already, but it was good to see that they keep coming back.

What's interesting is that after the 2nd trip, next day I notice that my vision has upgraded. All the colors feel a lot brighter. I'm convinced that this couldn't happen after the 1st trip. This day I also didn't feel well, I felt hangover-y. The camp was filled with bright colors and mandala's everywhere.
But yeah, from this point onwards it's like I could see upgraded color spectrum.
Notable colors: Turquoise, neon green, dark blue and some orange. When I looked at the flowers, even in low light setup, it felt like the color was shining out.
There's few good DMT picture's drawn with these specific colors pointed out:
https://i.imgur.com/B1HoTCV.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/73/bd/2e73bd336f66667c7f7009a673bb1952.jpg
https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.363454384.4755/flat,750x1000,075,f.u3.jpg

1 day later I move to my next destination. I take the front seat. We move across small Muslim towns. Because of their tradition, everything is ultra-colorful. Trucks are neon-green and yellow. Turquoise houses are not uncommon. Muslim women wear colorful hoods. It was intense.
I feel like the vision has integrated now, but I'm yet to be convinced whether the effect is permanent forever.


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Re: Part 4: The enlightenment cafe / heavenly terrace and comeback [Re: nomorefear]
    #26473263 - 02/07/20 04:04 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I would like to hear any feedback on the trip.
Has anyone had similar experience that reality is a dream?
Have you made contact with entities? Did they ever speak through you? Did you find out you had new gifts, in my case speaking the new language.
Something I didn't emphasize enough was the lucid-like nature of the trip. I was up in my head so to speak and feeling transcended. Did you feel less body-centric and more so up in your light body, or that you are spirit-like melding into reality?
While it was very intense, I don't know if it qualifies as lvl 4+. I'm still yet to see any geometric visuals and such. In my case I just saw the distorted reality with illogical things.


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Re: Part 4: The enlightenment cafe / heavenly terrace and comeback [Re: nomorefear]
    #26477399 - 02/09/20 06:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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nomorefear said:
I would like to hear any feedback on the trip.
Has anyone had similar experience that reality is a dream?
Have you made contact with entities? Did they ever speak through you? Did you find out you had new gifts, in my case speaking the new language.
Something I didn't emphasize enough was the lucid-like nature of the trip. I was up in my head so to speak and feeling transcended. Did you feel less body-centric and more so up in your light body, or that you are spirit-like melding into reality?
While it was very intense, I don't know if it qualifies as lvl 4 . I'm still yet to see any geometric visuals and such. In my case I just saw the distorted reality with illogical things.



We tripped at an awesome river in the middle of the jungle in Queensland once, on unknown large dose of cubes. I swear I could speak to the birds and was whistling their 'language'. Who knows what it actually sounded like.

Complete body dissociation is common among large doses. I've had many experiences where my body separates from my conscience. So yes I can relate to that :thumbup:

Awesome write up, ka pai.


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Re: Part 4: The enlightenment cafe / heavenly terrace and comeback [Re: bertblack]
    #26477536 - 02/09/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You are a human having a human experience. How many humans eat mushrooms?  Have eaten magical mushrooms?  All sure to have the mushroom experience.

I’m amazed you up doing so much. I will eat five grams and lay down to travel the hours long trip into the minds eye, then, come out to textured land and a body that’s balance couldn’t be too much on feet.

Sounds as having the group all there with their minds open gave much more openings to the breaks in reality experienced. All the continuous go as each perspective is nearer the infinite of existence. Or something.

Anyway, great write up. You really have great perspective to understanding and remembering the all of it. Sure the significance to all that partook was a real eye opener.

Enjoy the trips to come. Some wonderful places all of life will flower onto you.


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Re: Part 4: The enlightenment cafe / heavenly terrace and comeback [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #26478969 - 02/10/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

bertblack said:
I swear I could speak to the birds and was whistling their 'language'. Who knows what it actually sounded like.

Complete body dissociation is common among large doses. I've had many experiences where my body separates from my conscience. So yes I can relate to that :thumbup:




That's the interconnectedness of things.
The latter, do you mean you have out of body-travel type experience? Or just that you are more flexible and floating?

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I’m amazed you up doing so much. I will eat five grams and lay down to travel the hours long trip into the minds eye, then, come out to textured land and a body that’s balance couldn’t be too much on feet.

Sounds as having the group all there with their minds open gave much more openings to the breaks in reality experienced.

Anyway, great write up. You really have great perspective to understanding and remembering the all of it. Sure the significance to all that partook was a real eye opener.



I passed or blacked out so many times :tongue: That suggests I couldn't handle the dose :grin:
Yeah the group synergy made the difference. I didn't feel anyone judging me or being negative. Very supportive vibe even though we had just met each other. Music was awesome too.
The experience was so positive that I remember most of it. Someone suggested I was experiencing cosmic consciousness, which would make sense.
If this was my first trip, I'll definitely have more good ones coming :sun:


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Re: Part 4: The enlightenment cafe / heavenly terrace and comeback [Re: nomorefear]
    #26491970 - 02/18/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

5.2g dried? and what kind if you know? Did you also take DMT? Its hard to understand from what you wrote.

Can others give some guidelines about the reptilian thing and should we be more ready for eventually experiencing something like this? I know you should never let anyone or voice to "take over your consciousness" even if "it" tells you that its for greater good etc to make you agree and "let it in" - so I'm also curious are there any more details that maybe you forgot?


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Re: Part 4: The enlightenment cafe / heavenly terrace and comeback [Re: Shrooomtime]
    #26492040 - 02/18/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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That's the interconnectedness of things.
The latter, do you mean you have out of body-travel type experience? Or just that you are more flexible and floating?



I consider an out of body experience, 'leaving' the realm of form and entering a world that is without form. If that makes any sense..


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Re: Part 4: The enlightenment cafe / heavenly terrace and comeback [Re: Shrooomtime]
    #26493868 - 02/19/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Shrooomtime said:
5.2g dried? and what kind if you know? Did you also take DMT? Its hard to understand from what you wrote.



Fresh mushrooms into a blender. I have never smoked DMT, but I heard later that if you take enough mushrooms, you can see some DMT-type stuff. In my case that was my bungalow wallpapers, the whole room felt very surreal.
The variety has to be some common Indonesian mushroom. The guy buys the mushrooms from someone else and makes the shakes for fun, he's not a hobbyist.

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Can others give some guidelines about the reptilian thing and should we be more ready for eventually experiencing something like this? I know you should never let anyone or voice to "take over your consciousness" even if "it" tells you that its for greater good etc to make you agree and "let it in" - so I'm also curious are there any more details that maybe you forgot?



I wrote a complete story so no. That's all I can remember.
There was no voice in my head, no suggestions or communication with any entity. And like I said, I never felt possessed. There was that one moment where I was making hand gestures like I was describing something, but I can't recall there being a recipient to it.
As strange as it may sound, it's like another person woke up in me and was starting to make sense of things. Then I reverted back to my normal self to speak with others. and later continued the experience. At this point I was in control, but later came the part where I lost myself, so not consciously.

My own interpretation is that it was some past life stuff coming through. We hold those memories deep in our subconscious mind. People can access those memories by getting hypnotized, but it's almost impossible to remember them naturally.
It began with speaking that language. It came naturally to me. Then I just have multiple black outs. I was walking around, "standing" so to speak, but what was happening to me in that time is unknown. I only have others describing how I was licking my tongue, sticking it out and walking in strange snake-like fashion.
If I ever have chance to get hypnotized, I will :grin:
It was curiosity above all else, not like I was being negative and attracting entities that way.


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Re: Part 4: The enlightenment cafe / heavenly terrace and comeback [Re: bertblack]
    #26493900 - 02/19/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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That's the interconnectedness of things.
The latter, do you mean you have out of body-travel type experience? Or just that you are more flexible and floating?



I consider an out of body experience, 'leaving' the realm of form and entering a world that is without form. If that makes any sense..



There was one dream where I didn't have form. It's like I was just an astral essence in a dark room.
Then I had one super long OBE. Yes, I was sleeping, but I was also taking a long train ride. That's where my consciousness was. That dream had similar patterns to the mushroom trip. In that dream things looked real, but when I looked at map for example, there was cities that didn't exist. In that 1st OBE mentioned, my dad & grandma were talking non-tangible gibberish. Still words, but it just didn't make sense.
I've had many strange dreams. A total mystery what it's all about ultimately.
But how I would define an OBE: Your consciousness IS somewhere else and you 100% believe that that's where you are present. If you encounter anyone or something happens to you, that's where things get surreal. I've had that where it felt like someone set up an experience for me to be had. Bizarre...

Maybe the reason why I was able to connect so well with the mushrooms was that I've had all this stuff happen to me, so I'm open to absolute anything with non-skeptic mind.


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Re: First time mushrooms (5.2g) / Reptilian connection, awakening from the dream and distorted reality [Re: nomorefear]
    #26495561 - 02/20/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It is somewhat refreshing to join here and learn that other people are having 'encounters' with 'entities' it really does make me feel more grounded. Thank you for sharing your incredible journey.


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