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Whats your prefered method for DMT?
#26464414 - 02/01/20 10:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Theres a lot of different ways to take DMT. You can smoke it in a GVG or a pipe with ash or salt (thanks Bodhi), u can sprinkle on top of some weed bud, u can dab it in a dab bong, or u can take it orally with an MAOI.
Out of all the different methods, which do u prefer?
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26464430 - 02/01/20 10:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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gvg?
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: TedsDead]
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26464476 - 02/01/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Any way to buy a vapor genie under 21? Would a fake that works at stores work for the site?
SWIM wants one.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Korean Jesus] 3
#26464495 - 02/02/20 12:04 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Orally with Harmalas or Moclobemide, preferably Harmalas, but Moclobemide is cool too.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Korean Jesus]
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I dunno 
There might be some 18+ sites out there (maybe).
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26464720 - 02/02/20 06:47 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mixing it with ground weed and vaping it in a regular vape pen
This way the taste is a lot more bearable and when the dmt melts it gets absorbed into the bud (this might prevent the dmt from clogging the vape)
I messed around with dmt a while ago but stopped because the taste/smell is so bad that the trip doesn't seem to be worth it (I had an awesome trip once but after that I kind of stopeed seeing the point in doing dmt)
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Vaping it from a meth-style pipe always worked best for me. I always enjoyed the smell/taste smells/tastes like magic IMO.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26464781 - 02/02/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Salt? What do you mean?
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Amanita86]
#26464788 - 02/02/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Bodhi invented a method as a kid that uses table salt in a pipe: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26233495
Havent tried it but the overall concept is definitely legit
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26464869 - 02/02/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I sandwich the DMT between spent weed in a portable weed vaporizer. Works beautifully, can be dosed very accurately and no danger of dropping a burning hot pipe into your lap while entering hyperspace.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: sporecap] 1
#26464940 - 02/02/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I started with the classic oil-pipe.. it does it's job but you really have to practice lol
later I upgraded to the Vapor Genie and I freaking love it
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: acidgoofy] 1
#26465001 - 02/02/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nothing beats a dab rig. Preheated quartz instantly vaporizes the entire dose.
if you think its gross smoke a little crack first to numb your shit up fam
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: bodhisatta] 1
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I second the dab rig.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: FrankRhizo] 1
#26465145 - 02/02/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I second swallowing! 
Simply the best bang for your buck. 
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26465165 - 02/02/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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No doubt. Dab Rig/Dab Bong is top shelf superior. U cant beat it. And it helps with the tastes as well.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26465463 - 02/02/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Anyone ever make vape juice? I’ve heard people talk about it and can’t wrap my head around how they’re measuring their doses accurately. It sounds like it would work real well but hard to gauge where the sweet spot is at.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Amanita86] 1
#26465495 - 02/02/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Eclipse3130] 1
#26465536 - 02/02/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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The mesh RDA is hands down the easiest and surest way I’ve tried. Changa is still my favorite though.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Amanita86]
#26465637 - 02/02/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Anyone ever make vape juice? I’ve heard people talk about it and can’t wrap my head around how they’re measuring their doses accurately. It sounds like it would work real well but hard to gauge where the sweet spot is at.
Tons of variables from what I’ve read on the nexus, and if you’re not a vape mod expert it’s hard to get consistency.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: SynKyd]
#26465887 - 02/02/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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GVG always. Back when I smoked weed I used my little glass pipe, but since I've had the GVG (15 years or so) I've never looked back.
I loudly agree with taking oral harmalas (either from caapi vine or Syrian Rue) before smoking-- it's a spectacular change in the character of the experience-- and it also substantially lengthens the trip-- you can make your spice last a looong time with harmalas in your system-- can't recommend it highly enough.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#26466004 - 02/02/20 09:32 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I found that infusing DMT into a smoking blend like damiana is best for me, and a waterpipe/bong.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Amanita86]
#26467654 - 02/03/20 10:02 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think getting the ratio of DMT to vape juice should be pretty easy, volume of ejuice to weight of DMT. But Ive never tried it so not sure.
Sounds nice Trex. Id be down for some changa.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26468162 - 02/04/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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While thinking about it more I could infuse the syrian rue extract in it as well. It dissolves in alcohol/everclear. I wonder if that would work?
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: tyrannicalrex] 1
#26468201 - 02/04/20 10:00 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sure it should work. 
The extract dissolves just like the dmt, and after drying it's evenly spread and soaked into the herb.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Pandemoon]
#26468225 - 02/04/20 10:17 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wonder how tricky it would be to get the ratio of DMT to Syrian Rue just right.....
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Pandemoon]
#26468232 - 02/04/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hmmm, don't know if I need that kick though, lol! DMT is powerful enough on it's own for me.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26468252 - 02/04/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: I wonder how tricky it would be to get the ratio of DMT to Syrian Rue just right.....
I used to made changa roughly 4:2:1. 4 parts herb, 2 parts dmt, 1 part harmalas. Usually a bit lower on the harmalas. That's for extracted almost pure alkaloids though. No crude resin. 
Others like more potent ratios, some even use 1:1 for herb to dmt.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Pandemoon]
#26468271 - 02/04/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yep, acaterpillaer did that. I wonder where he's been actually? He got lost in Dallas, lol.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26468359 - 02/04/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: I think getting the ratio of DMT to vape juice should be pretty easy, volume of ejuice to weight of DMT. But Ive never tried it so not sure.
Sounds nice Trex. Id be down for some changa.
With changa and all that it’s easier because you can weight out specific measurements and then consume the entire measurment. With vape juice you can make the juice with precise measurements but when you go to consume it.... where the juice meets the coil there’s no way to be sure the exact amount the coil is vaporizing/pulling from the cotton. So as you dribble it on there even if you do your math on how many drops equal what measurement of dmt, it’s not certain the amount of juice vaporizing, so it gets sketchy. And, after a vape how much is left, so how much do you then add? See what I’m saying?
With a lot of trial and error you could figure out what works I guess and just make each go of it from full saturation but even that’s not precise so you would have to guestimate a sweet spot but that’s a lot of too little/too much. Maybe I’m just over thinking things but to make a 2-3 vape breakthrough strength juice it’s going to be strong enough that just a bit too much and you’ll catch yourself getting hyperslapped.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Amanita86]
#26468449 - 02/04/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dab rig for smoking or a Mimosa brew and caapi or rue is my preferred.
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Anyone ever boof it? The topic came up in ODD.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Amanita86]
#26468483 - 02/04/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dmt freebase out of a sherlock glass vapor genie is my favorite way. In my opinion ayahuasca is extremely overrated and causes more anxiety and panic attacks than mushrooms and lsd. I don't even consider ayahuasca a true dmt experience because you have a MAOI and other alkaloids messing with your brain during the experience. For the true experience you want pure/snow white dmt vaporized out of the gvg . Just my opinion...
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Shenmue]
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Shenmue said: Dmt freebase out of a sherlock glass vapor genie is my favorite way. In my opinion ayahuasca is extremely overrated and causes more anxiety and panic attacks than mushrooms and lsd. I don't even consider ayahuasca a true dmt experience because you have a MAOI and other alkaloids messing with your brain during the experience. For the true experience you want pure/snow white dmt vaporized out of the gvg . Just my opinion...
Aya is not overrated, hyped in some ways yeah, but there's a lot more going on, as you said, than just DMT. A lot of the teachings and gnosis and other benefits comes from the Harmalas, the DMT is important no doubt but the Harmalas are even more important, the Harmalas don't act simply as an MAOI to allow for oral DMT activation, they have other properties that contribute greatly to the overall benefits and experience. If you're concerned about DMT being altered in some way, try Moclobemide, it'll orally activate DMT and doesn't intrude upon the oral DMT experience, most it'll do is raise levels of Serotonin and Noradrenaline, making things more clearheaded, but other than that it's pretty transparent on the body. But with that said, there's a variety of ways one can alter/tweak the DMT experience (both orally, and smoked/vaped) to their liking, by the addition of any kind of plant or supplement, there's lots of potential there imo, but most just go for the basic DMT (or other Psychedelic) experience. Overall though, Moclobemide is interesting, but i much prefer Harmalas with my DMT, it just offers so much more.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Sabnock]
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Harmalas are more important? I disagree with that. I've used these substances and i don't think ayahuasca is anymore special than mushrooms or lsd. People completely over exaggerate the ayahuasca experience. They get into all that hocus pocus and mother aya bullshit and sound just as ridiculous as religious people. Having a non English speaking shaman blow smoke in your face and throw leaves around is freaking ridiculous..
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Shenmue said: Harmalas are more important? I disagree with that. I've used these substances and i don't think ayahuasca is anymore special than mushrooms or lsd. People completely over exaggerate the ayahuasca experience. They get into all that hocus pocus and mother aya bullshit and sound just as ridiculous as religious people. Having a non English speaking shaman blow smoke in your face and throw leaves around is freaking ridiculous..
I'm not talking about the Aya tourism hocus pocus, i agree that stuff is overrated and way too hyped. However, yes, the Harmalas are very important, and if you don't think so, i suggest diving into deep Harmala territory. It seems relatively common for people to consume just enough Harmalas/Rue/Caapi to orally activate DMT, which makes people think it's all about the DMT, it's not, trust me on this, i'm very experienced with Rue and Mimosa/Acacia (as well as Rue and mushrooms or 4-ACO-DMT), the Harmalas/Rue makes a hell of a difference and has many effects/benefits to add to the experience. The main source of teachings from Aya comes from the Harmalas, not the DMT, sure taking the Harmalas/Rue/Caapi on their own may not do much (even though they no doubt do a bit on their own), but after extensive experimentation with Harmalas and DMT (or Psilocin), you will begin to see just how much comes from the Harmalas. In fact, depending on dosages, when Harmala-heavy dosages are used, a little bit of DMT/Psilocin can go a long way, and the overall experience becomes way more Aya-like rather than DMT-like, it's like completely different substances/medicines depending on dosages. I wouldn't recommend consuming pure/isolated Harmalas, full spectrum Rue or Caapi is far better, i personally use Rue, but have consumed pure Harmalas many times and it definitely lacks the magic that the full spectrum brings, DMT or Psilocin on the other hand can be used in pure form and it works just fine, but you definitely want the full spectrum Harmala-containing plant, ime/imo.
If you wanna know just how much of a difference the Harmalas make, i highly recommend trying out higher/heavier Harmala/Rue/Caapi dosages (it'll probably make you vomit, so be prepared for that), and then get ahold of some Moclobemide and try that with DMT, and then compare. If you've only used enough Harmalas to orally activate DMT in order to avoid possible nausea/vomiting and bodyload and haven't really gone deep into the Harmala territory, it's likely you wouldn't understand. But i assure you, i've been there, and i've learned, i know just how important the Harmalas are. They don't call Caapi "Ayahuasca" for no reason, traditionally DMT wasn't even included in Ayahuasca, Caapi was used by itself or in conjunction with other plants but DMT wasn't a requirement, though the DMT certainly has benefits and contributes and has things to offer, but the real magic comes from the Harmalas, no doubt the DMT contributes though.
I also do not recommend people having to travel to the jungle for an "authentic experience", in fact someone on facebook blocked me last night lol because i was talking about how solo journeying with Aya is just fine and is probably better than all that traditional hoopla. Aya was my first Psychedelic/Entheogen, and the one i have a lot of experience with (daily/near daily for 4 years and in all sorts of dosages, plants and extracts, etc), and i've always taken it on my own and been fine, lots of people prefer solo journeying but apparently some think we adults can't handle a strong medicine, i personally don't get the big deal, i mean yeah it's freaking insanely intense and powerful, much more so than mushrooms or Psilohuasca or LSD, but it's certainly manageable imo.
But yeah, it's worth another look imo, dive deep into the Harmala territory, use light to moderate dosages of DMT or Psilocin, and you'll probably see what i mean after a bit of experimentation.
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But yeah like i mentioned, i've noticed a lot of people seem to take just enough Rue/Caapi/Harmalas (a low to moderate dosage) to orally activate DMT, but don't ever bother going deeper into the Harmala territory because they don't wanna get nauseous or vomit or feel sick or anything like that, which is no doubt understandable, however, in doing so, you tend to miss out on the more important Harmala aspects that come from higher/heavier dosages. No doubt the DMT is a very important and special molecule, and it certainly deserves praises and provides the main experience, but with the Harmalas, the Harmalas are the main element, the main medicine, the DMT is secondary, it works through the Harmalas and illuminates the properties of the Harmalas, while also adding it's own illumination to the experience. If you don't know/understand how important Harmalas are when it comes to Ayahuasca, and merely see Ayahuasca as orally active DMT, then you haven't gone deep/far enough.
Though it is true that DMT can be quite anxiety-inducing lol, particularly during the come up, after that though it's fine. One reason why i recommend Lemon Balm tea (3 to 4.5 grams of dried leaf) for smoothing out the intense come up. On the contrary, mushrooms, 4-ACO-DMT, Psilohuasca, LSD, have all been gentler for me personally thus far, so keep in mind DMT is one intense compound, but it's really not as bad as people think. It's intensity during the come up is one thing that builds discipline and helps with growth and teaches you a lot, including how to better deal with it and what to do to maneuver yourself through it. If you fight it though, and don't surrender to it's power, you're gonna be in for a rough time, but Lemon Balm makes things quite a bit more manageable and doesn't seem to detract from it's higher consciousness-inducing properties.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Sabnock]
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Also another thing worth mentioning, is that Lemon Balm tea (3 to 4.5 grams) also cleans up how the Rue/Harmalas feel, even if you take heavier dosages of Rue/Harmalas, the Lemon Balm makes it feel much cleaner/lighter, even to the point where you don't even really feel the Rue/Harmalas (particularly bodyload), especially compared to the raw Rue/Harmala effects. So it's two fold, it smooths out the intense come up, and also cleans up how the Rue/Harmalas feel, so it's a really nice combination ime.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Sabnock]
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But if someone is looking something gentler, i do recommend checking out Psilohuasca. So far it's been pretty interesting, and has taken me to pretty much the same states as Aya with oral DMT, it's just a bit different, but definitely shares similarities. I still do recommend consuming at least a moderate dosage of Rue/Caapi/Harmalas though, low doses work fine and definitely change things up as it is, but the more Harmalas, the better, imo, even though there is possible nausea, vomiting, heavier bodyload, and some other "side-effects" but it's really not as bad as people think, higher/heavier dosages of Harmalas can be a bit rough (particularly without the Lemon Balm), but it's worth the suffering imo, and it's highly rewarding and very teaching.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Sabnock]
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Another benefit to higher/heavier Harmala dosages, is that it brings with it a grounding and relaxant effect, that can not only relax the body and mind, but also makes the anxiety and panic more tolerable, even though it can kick up the anxiety and panic, it also seems to provide grounding so it makes things more tolerable, particularly compared to using low to moderate dosages of Harmalas which with a good dosage of DMT makes things more panicky.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Sabnock]
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Actually it slows it down and makes it last longer.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: SynKyd]
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hmmm, interesting....
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When I had nothing nearby to vape DMT with, a simple cut up soda bottle (1.5 liters), some al foil and a lighter did the trick... I know it's not the healthiest way to vape DMT but desperate times call for desperate measures
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I mean shit, if ya gotta blast off, ya gotta blast off, aimrite?!
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I got to wondering tonight if anyone has tried hot railing DMT.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Ganja420Boy]
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Is hot railing the same as hot knives?
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I like it laced into a fat cone with cannabis. That way I'm chillin, puffin, and all I have to do is keep chillin and puffin. Likely a little wasteful as it just sits there burning, but I don't imbibe too terribly often so not super wasteful.
A strong indica helps relieve the sensation that I might pop like a balloon on the come up which I normally experience when I'm really gerping on that stuff.
But usually I like to take it easy and slowly puff while I'm juggling. Juggling is really cool to do when you're in a low to mid level Dmt trip.
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Changa in the bonga FTW.
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I tried juggling while rolling balls (see what I did there), if you freeze frame on my face it's hilarious.
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A jugglah!!
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Ganja420Boy]
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Ganja420Boy said: I got to wondering tonight if anyone has tried hot railing DMT.
i tried hot railing it, and i may have done it wrong because ive never smoked crack but i think i wasted quite a bit of it. (again my technique was nowhere near perfect)
the best ive ever been able to do (out of my two preferred methods, a glass rose stem packed with a wire scrubbie and packing it between leafy layers) the leafy layers is the highest ive ever blasted off just because i can get deeper hits and dont burn it in the stem
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: numnum59]
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I don't think there's a point to hot railing things you cant snort. Meth you can snort or smoke. Hot rail makes sense
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: PsychoReactive]
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PsychoReactive said: When I had nothing nearby to vape DMT with, a simple cut up soda bottle (1.5 liters), some al foil and a lighter did the trick... I know it's not the healthiest way to vape DMT but desperate times call for desperate measures 
Dude I smoked weed out of hand made aluminum foil pipes for like a year straight in high school and it never harmed me. I weld pipe for a living so I'm breathing that shit in every day of the week and I can't even tell. There's people living in their 90s who smoked cigarettes their entire lives. The point I'm trying to make is that smoking dmt like that once in a blue moon probably isn't going to hurt you very much.. It 100% burns and wastes dmt though!
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Shenmue]
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PsychoReactive said: When I had nothing nearby to vape DMT with, a simple cut up soda bottle (1.5 liters), some al foil and a lighter did the trick... I know it's not the healthiest way to vape DMT but desperate times call for desperate measures 
Dude I smoked weed out of hand made aluminum foil pipes for like a year straight in high school and it never harmed me. I weld pipe for a living so I'm breathing that shit in every day of the week and I can't even tell. There's people living in their 90s who smoked cigarettes their entire lives. The point I'm trying to make is that smoking dmt like that once in a blue moon probably isn't going to hurt you very much.. It 100% burns and wastes dmt though!
i used to use a (and still do when im in a pinch) aluminum foil as a filter or as a pipe. my brother would never smoke out of aluminum foil tho because he says he believes it causes Alzheimers
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: numnum59]
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 Aluminum accumulates in body tissues including the brain when inhaled-- it's very neurotoxic and isn't easy to purge (if it can be done at all).
You won't "feel" it as a kid -- it is absolutely dangerous long-term. Google it and you'll see--
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 Aluminum accumulates in body tissues including the brain when inhaled-- it's very neurotoxic and isn't easy to purge (if it can be done at all).
You won't "feel" it as a kid -- it is absolutely dangerous long-term. Google it and you'll see--

I completely agree with you but I don't think smoking dmt like that a few times a year is going to cause serious problems. Believe me I understand it's bad for you. I'm honestly not trying to encourage it lol.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Shenmue]
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Just thought to myself while reading this. If aluminium causes what's said above, then shouldn't you stay away from those aluminium bong pipes? Things are going/leaning much more towards glass now though. Thank god.
I've just done 3 DMT breakthroughs in the space of 2 and a half hours. Straight freebase in a glass bong. Just right every time. The product and burning technique must both on point. 30-40mg is all it takes for me to get there. Any more and I can't remember so much of the trip. That'll do me for a while now and DMT. Like a matter of months.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Indicabuds420]
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Bongs are the best for sure.
How do you prep your DMT for loading? Do you use a special bowl piece?
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Indicabuds420]
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Indicabuds420 said: Just thought to myself while reading this. If aluminium causes what's said above, then shouldn't you stay away from those aluminium bong pipes?
It wouldn't likely be much of an issue with thicker metal unless some kind of acid or solvent was involved-- foil tho...
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Northerner said: Changa in the bonga FTW. 
Apparentely some aussis invented changa.
So thank you, changa is definetely the best.
Second best is loading a boal with some Smokeables (Caapi, Passioflora, Lotus, CBD etc.) at your desire and put the DMT on it (if you don't want the MAOI).
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Northerner]
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Northerner said: Changa in the bonga FTW. 
Apparentely some aussis invented changa.
So thank you, changa is definetely the best.
Second best is loading a boal with some Smokeables (Caapi, Passioflora, Lotus, CBD etc.) at your desire and put the DMT on it (if you don't want the MAOI).
Not sure I'd smoke the spice rather than vape it if I wasn't adding an maoi. You ever tried a healthstone? It's pretty sure fire for vaping straight crystal, much cheaper than a GVG too.
For me DMT without an MAOI is like skydiving without eye protection. There's no bubble to protect you as you tumble towards the exit at warp speed. I never liked it much.
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I enjoyed enhanced leaf more than changa personally. 
Never tried freebase though.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: RogerTheRetard]
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I didnt know they were two different things.
Is enhanced leaf involve an MAOI plant specifically?
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said: I didnt know they were two different things.
Is enhanced leaf involve an MAOI plant specifically?
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: RogerTheRetard]
#26500235 - 02/23/20 05:28 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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How do you not know this.. 
Changa is DMT + Leaf + MAOI Enhanced Leaf is just DMT + Leaf (No MAOI)
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: RogerTheRetard]
#26500258 - 02/23/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I read mckenna and he mentions snorting dmt as the best ROA, anyone has input on this?
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Savantfou]
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Savantfou said: I read mckenna and he mentions snorting dmt as the best ROA, anyone has input on this?
Terrible idea. Freebase DMT is highly basic and will hurt like hell and cause sinus damage.
Sure it works... still a fucking stupid idea.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Savantfou]
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Savantfou said: I read mckenna and he mentions snorting dmt as the best ROA, anyone has input on this?
Do you have a link to where he said that? I’d like to get the context of it and hear what he said before and after.
From the reports I’ve read it does seem to work and surprisingly pretty well but as Northerner said the burning and nasal damage is a major issue. May be better to flip the script and boof it if you’re looking for alternate ROA’s.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Amanita86]
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Im new to the DMT scene so excuse my ignorance on thr subject.
Enhanced Leaf lacks a MAOI, different than Changa. Roger
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Savantfou said: I read mckenna and he mentions snorting dmt as the best ROA, anyone has input on this?
Do you have a link to where he said that? I’d like to get the context of it and hear what he said before and after.
From the reports I’ve read it does seem to work and surprisingly pretty well but as Northerner said the burning and nasal damage is a major issue. May be better to flip the script and boof it if you’re looking for alternate ROA’s.
I've been wanting to someday explore a DMT nose spray, like see if i can convert the DMT freebase to a salt form and then put it in some water, maybe a little saline solution, and see how that goes, or add a pinch of baking soda to make it weakly alkaline. Could be worth pursuing, would just need to make sure the dosage per spray ratio is accurate and that it's concentrated/potent. Alternatively, a Changa nose spray could prove to be useful perhaps, or taking the Rue/Caapi/Harmalas or Moclobemide orally and then using the DMT nose spray.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said: Im new to the DMT scene so excuse my ignorance on thr subject.
Enhanced Leaf lacks a MAOI, different than Changa. Roger 
Sorry lad, just figured because you are a moderator/have a giant post count/been registered since 2007/you are the OP of this thread that I assumed you knew the basics of DMT. 
Enhanced leaf basically IS changa, except without the MAOI.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: RogerTheRetard]
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No worries. Somethings can be misleading no?
Ive pretty much stuck with pipe smoking/dabbing methods but Im also curious to learn more about these alternatives like Changa, Enhanced Leaf and Hot Railing (snorting im guessing?).
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Savantfou said: I read mckenna and he mentions snorting dmt as the best ROA, anyone has input on this?
Do you have a link to where he said that? I’d like to get the context of it and hear what he said before and after.
From the reports I’ve read it does seem to work and surprisingly pretty well but as Northerner said the burning and nasal damage is a major issue. May be better to flip the script and boof it if you’re looking for alternate ROA’s.
I've been wanting to someday explore a DMT nose spray, like see if i can convert the DMT freebase to a salt form and then put it in some water, maybe a little saline solution, and see how that goes, or add a pinch of baking soda to make it weakly alkaline. Could be worth pursuing, would just need to make sure the dosage per spray ratio is accurate and that it's concentrated/potent. Alternatively, a Changa nose spray could prove to be useful perhaps, or taking the Rue/Caapi/Harmalas or Moclobemide orally and then using the DMT nose spray.
I think there may be something to that. I’m kind of surprised it’s not a semi common thing now that I’m thinking about it..
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LogicaL Chaos said: No worries. Somethings can be misleading no?
Ive pretty much stuck with pipe smoking/dabbing methods but Im also curious to learn more about these alternatives like Changa, Enhanced Leaf and Hot Railing (snorting im guessing?).
hot railing is burning it off a piece of aluminum foil or something and inhaling it with a tube(mainly a straw)
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Huh, I see. Im familiar with the term "cooking it". Now I know its alternative name
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I usually always smoke dmt out of the Sherlock gvg. If you're planning on going through a few grams of dmt It's worth buying. You can also use it for smoking pot so you're not wasting your money buying one.
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Re: Whats your prefered method for DMT? [Re: Northerner]
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Not sure I'd smoke the spice rather than vape it if I wasn't adding an maoi. You ever tried a healthstone? It's pretty sure fire for vaping straight crystal, much cheaper than a GVG too.
No, i have used regular base pipes for a while, after they got suggested by the headshop owner (I was foil smoking for some time before, not my brightes idea). I didn't get it to work properly and switched to bong. It has worked and adding some MAOI containing leafes, aswell as Lotus has smoothened the experience for me already. It is like a stepping stone to changa. I like to prepare different herbs as a sandwitch with some DMT to try final changa blends.
The healthstone looks interesting. Seems like something i would prefer over a regular base pipe.
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For me DMT without an MAOI is like skydiving without eye protection. There's no bubble to protect you as you tumble towards the exit at warp speed. I never liked it much.
I definetely know what you mean. I started with pure DMT freebase for quite a while until i discovered changa. Changed the whole game for me.
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