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Full on pyschedelic experience from edible
    #26463866 - 02/01/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Now, I'll preface this by saying I was on half a 12" cactus worth of mescaline from a few hours before. But I was certainly not tripping, just having a good time.

Given that I've cut back my smoking heavily, my tolerance was almost nonexistent when I took a 125mg gummy edible. From this point on, it legit felt like I was coming up on an acid trip. It started with CEVs, but I ended up getting complete open eye visuals where I would look somewhere and patterns of street lights and beams and random objects would appear on my eyes. I was also in a fully pyschedelic headspace. As I was coming up, the weed made me scared (as high doses of weed tend to do), but I eventually got past that state and just straight up started tripping. I was in a pyschedelic mindstate for like 2 hours, after which I "came down" to something I would expect from a heavy weed high.

I never really considered that cannabis could put you in an actual trip... (especially on only 125mg)


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26463871 - 02/01/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Now, I'll preface this by saying I was on half a 12" cactus worth of mescaline from a few hours before. But I was certainly not tripping, just having a good time.

Given that I've cut back my smoking heavily, my tolerance was almost nonexistent when I took a 125mg gummy edible. From this point on, it legit felt like I was coming up on an acid trip. It started with CEVs, but I ended up getting complete open eye visuals where I would look somewhere and patterns of street lights and beams and random objects would appear on my eyes. I was also in a fully pyschedelic headspace. As I was coming up, the weed made me scared (as high doses of weed tend to do), but I eventually got past that state and just straight up started tripping. I was in a pyschedelic mindstate for like 2 hours, after which I "came down" to something I would expect from a heavy weed high.

I never really considered that cannabis could put you in an actual trip... (especially on only 125mg)



Isn't 125mg a lot, I thought a standard dose of edibles was like 10mg?


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: dk-1]
    #26463879 - 02/01/20 03:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

A joint is ~100mg


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26463901 - 02/01/20 03:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Now, I'll preface this by saying I was on half a 12" cactus worth of mescaline from a few hours before. But I was certainly not tripping, just having a good time.

Given that I've cut back my smoking heavily, my tolerance was almost nonexistent when I took a 125mg gummy edible. From this point on, it legit felt like I was coming up on an acid trip. It started with CEVs, but I ended up getting complete open eye visuals where I would look somewhere and patterns of street lights and beams and random objects would appear on my eyes. I was also in a fully pyschedelic headspace. As I was coming up, the weed made me scared (as high doses of weed tend to do), but I eventually got past that state and just straight up started tripping. I was in a pyschedelic mindstate for like 2 hours, after which I "came down" to something I would expect from a heavy weed high.

I never really considered that cannabis could put you in an actual trip... (especially on only 125mg)



Isn't 125mg a lot, I thought a standard dose of edibles was like 10mg?




I got some legal edibles 'gummy' from a friend and they were 10MG each
125MG Sounds a bit off, not that i wouldn't take one as thats probably about whats in my brownies

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A joint is ~100mg




But where does the meat go?


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26463908 - 02/01/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Worst trip I ever had in my life was edibles. I made the common mistake when I didn’t feel the effects in a hour, I ate more brownies. Then I made a scary decent into hell, 600 miles out of town in a hotel room. Worst night ever  :breakthrough:


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: Antigov]
    #26463913 - 02/01/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I was starting to go down a really bad rabbit hole with awful time dilation but at some point the weed high just transformed into an actual trip, which is enjoyable, and my thoughts were quite good for the rest of the night. I'm not sure if it was the small amount of mescaline or what but it was definitely an odd experience.


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26464095 - 02/01/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Recently I took a few spoonfuls of cannabutter. I was getting that psychedelic thing when the world feels like it's increasing in intensity in conjunction with the song playing. I was reading some cultivation thread and it felt as though it were 'rising and falling' in conjunction with the music, even though it was just some random thread. I think a big part of psychedelics is realizing that your mind creates the world around you, and as such can make things appear as they aren't. Or rather, changes what are and aren't mean to you. In this case, I'd say marijuana can give you a 'full on' psychedelic experience. I think it requires a 'leap of faith' type dose, though- the kind of dose that any reasonable person with a job even the next day would be hesitant to take. Like if I had eaten half the total amount of butter rather than an eighth or tenth, I would've been flying for two hours and passed out for 12.


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26464112 - 02/01/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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A joint is ~100mg



Most of that is lost to the sidestream. And the 11-Hydroxy THC that your liver produces from ingesting edibles is a lot stronger than regular THC.


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: jdawg333]
    #26464115 - 02/01/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Edibles definitely potentiate other psychedelics. Just ask Bill O'Reilly or read his posts on the topic. Also, cactus (mescaline) comes on sloooooooowwww, so maybe just when you thought your dose was weak.....:vibin:


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: Nature Boy]
    #26464170 - 02/01/20 06:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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A joint is ~100mg



Most of that is lost to the sidestream. And the 11-Hydroxy THC that your liver produces from ingesting edibles is a lot stronger than regular THC.



So how many joints would you consider a 125mg edible to be?

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Edibles definitely potentiate other psychedelics. Just ask Bill O'Reilly or read his posts on the topic. Also, cactus (mescaline) comes on sloooooooowwww, so maybe just when you thought your dose was weak.....:vibin:



Yeah, but half a cactus is half a starter dose. It'd be something like 60ug acid or a bit over a gram of shrooms. Can that really be potentiated into something that feels like a >400ug acid trip?


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26464267 - 02/01/20 07:38 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If edibles are believed to be 6x stronger you would need 750mg thc from bud. Pretty much 3 grams of 25% top shelf.


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: 330ci]
    #26464281 - 02/01/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You ate half a foot of cactus about 2 hrs prior and think this didn’t affect your experience? What point is there to you fucking tripping man? You’re making me feel like I’m going nuts reading these posts. Yesterday I was honestly wondering what you were up too then I read this thread about “tripping from an edible while I somehow believe mescaline is taking no effect on me. “You’ve gone from thinking you had Hppd, to enjoying that you had it, to I think realizing you are probably using too many psychs, continuing to use psychs on a regular basis from your posts here. What purpose do you seek from these experiences? How are you integrating them into your life? How are you measuring your doses and what are your sources? Do you have tested blotters? Cross tolerating psychedelics is possible between acid and shrooms to an extent but anything else would be much less quantifiable. I think if you’re so concerned about these experiences you need to just focus on taking the drug and approximating your dosage and recording the experience. Why continue comparing apples to oranges. If you want to do something useful go on different levels of trips, but it wouldn’t make a fucks worth of difference in your case since you never give yourself the time to reset your tolerance to begin with.


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: 330ci]
    #26464342 - 02/01/20 09:06 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So much wrong with that post, 330ci.

I hate half a foot of cactus four hours before.
I've derived & integrated a very large amount of information from my trips, as I have described in some of my posts.
I limit myself to no more than one psychedelic experience per week. Might seem excessive, but I often go many weeks without a psychedelic experience.
Yes I have tested my tabs.

I'm not at all concerned about this experience. Not sure where you got that vibe.

It's pretty annoying that I always have to defend myself because you and a couple other users keep shitting on my posts. Just move along if you don't like me man. Lots of other posts for you to comment on.


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26464690 - 02/02/20 06:15 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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So much wrong with that post, 330ci.

I hate half a foot of cactus four hours before.
I've derived & integrated a very large amount of information from my trips, as I have described in some of my posts.
I limit myself to no more than one psychedelic experience per week. Might seem excessive, but I often go many weeks without a psychedelic experience.
Yes I have tested my tabs.

I'm not at all concerned about this experience. Not sure where you got that vibe.

It's pretty annoying that I always have to defend myself because you and a couple other users keep shitting on my posts. Just move along if you don't like me man. Lots of other posts for you to comment on.





People shit on your posts because you appear to be full of shit a lot of the time or have the shittiest drug dealer to walk the planet. To be clear I have enjoyed a lot of your posts but there seems to be a repetitive theme of you believing you have a high tolerance for psychs when the reality is you abuse the fuck out of them. “You” tested your tabs? so again, you have no fucking clue how much LSD is in them, nor do you know what your tolerance looks like at this point so you posting the amount you allegedly took really holds no meaning to someone going into the experience with a clear mind. You ate half a foot of San Pedro 4 hours prior, so you should’ve been 2 hours into the 8-12 hour experience and this is when you started feeling the tripping effects from the edible? See why I think this thread is useless? You were tripping. I don’t take a tab of acid, feel minor effects, hit my Illadelph and watch the world blow into fractals and think “wow weeds making me trip so hard.” Marijuana just intensified its it and pretty much a guarantee of what happened in your case. Don’t take any drugs for 2 weeks to a month and eat another 125mg gummy and i’d bet my left but you don’t trip. These “tripping from weed” threads make me feel like a freshman in highschool again. Also Tripping once a week and you’re integrating these experiences in life? You’re not even coming down long enough to experience life. Personally I couldn’t care less if you turn into a psychiatric casualty from these drugs. But I at least want the world to have some insight on what really happened through that process.



And why don’t I comment on other stuff? Because not everything you post is irritating, I legitimately have thought of you and your ideas in my daily life. To say you haven’t ever positively impacted me would be a lie. I find this place a great place to chronicle thoughts and ideas about the psychedelic experience. But a lot of the information you post is concerning to me. The way you flagrantly post dose sizes when you haven’t the slightest clue is asinine. Post how many tabs you took, post how much you approximately think is in each tab, but definitively saying that something feels like a 400ug experience is about the most personal and ineffective way of conveying the concept. If you don’t mind me asking, what do you do to integrate these experiences in your life?


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: 330ci] * 1
    #26464744 - 02/02/20 07:07 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Cannabis is such a nice plant

And then, all of the sudden it scares the hell out of you, litteraly.


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: 330ci]
    #26465284 - 02/02/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

330, I think you're coming from a good place. But you're mistaken.

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So much wrong with that post, 330ci.

I hate half a foot of cactus four hours before.
I've derived & integrated a very large amount of information from my trips, as I have described in some of my posts.
I limit myself to no more than one psychedelic experience per week. Might seem excessive, but I often go many weeks without a psychedelic experience.
Yes I have tested my tabs.

I'm not at all concerned about this experience. Not sure where you got that vibe.

It's pretty annoying that I always have to defend myself because you and a couple other users keep shitting on my posts. Just move along if you don't like me man. Lots of other posts for you to comment on.





People shit on your posts because you appear to be full of shit a lot of the time or have the shittiest drug dealer to walk the planet.




It's pretty much exclusively 2-3 people. And I've gotten acid from two unrelated sources with the effects being very consistent according to their dosage claims.

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You ate half a foot of San Pedro 4 hours prior, so you should’ve been 2 hours into the 8-12 hour experience and this is when you started feeling the tripping effects from the edible? See why I think this thread is useless? You were tripping.



Possible. But I was not tripping from the half-cactus. And half a cactus doesn't last close to 12 hours anyways.

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If you don’t mind me asking, what do you do to integrate these experiences in your life?



I often read things that I typed out, some of it is stuff I though was profound but is meaningless, but often I find things I really identify with. I think about what I learned on my trips and what my brain was trying to tell me often throughout the day.

I will say that I didn't learn pretty much anything from this last "trip," which makes it feel a lot more like a cannabis high than a psychedelic one.

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Personally I couldn’t care less if you turn into a psychiatric casualty from these drugs. But I at least want the world to have some insight on what really happened through that process.



What about my posts would suggest that I'm turning into a psychiatric casualty? Because I feel sharper and more aware today than a few months ago, not the other way around. Yes, I enjoy psychedelic experiences that others may consider excessive. So what?


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26465340 - 02/02/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Personally I couldn’t care less if you turn into a psychiatric casualty from these drugs. But I at least want the world to have some insight on what really happened through that process.



What about my posts would suggest that I'm turning into a psychiatric casualty? Because I feel sharper and more aware today than a few months ago, not the other way around. Yes, I enjoy psychedelic experiences that others may consider excessive. So what?






you're on a forum full of psychedelic users, of course we understand you and we can bond over these experiences. but there's still a real world out there and the whole point of psychedelics to me is to gain a competitive advantage over the world by becoming more aware of myself as a person. do something with the knowledge you're gaining, how much more knowledge do you need to seek?

what are you doing in life that allows you to spend entire days multiple times every few weeks to trip? is that an acceptable existence to you? I smoke weed every day and society thinks thats bad, I have tripped multiple times a week before, but reality becomes much less defined and you really need to go out there and start answering your own questions or else you're just a mad man who adds nothing to the world but philosophy.

I've done what you're doing, and I had friends who told me the same shit i'm telling you right now and it's not because I think i'm better than you, it's because I want what's best for you as a person. we're here for experience and growth, and from my outside perspective you should grow a little more and save for a more powerful experience. if you truely aren't feeling 6" of cactus you've got a problem. as for the LSD experience, unless you've got a lab cert stating you're getting 200ug+ tabs, you're being lied too, easiest way to get twice the price.


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: 330ci]
    #26465418 - 02/02/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I feel 6" of cactus. It's a nice, tranquilizing, happy feeling. But it is not anything close to what I'd consider a "trip."

I'm in college and I trip on the weekends. Tripping 2-4 times per month is definitely a lot less time spent intoxicated than smoking weed everyday (I know because for a little while I was smoking every day).

In terms of the acid, I've gotten liquid from a trusted friend and tabs from another, both of whom do not even know each other. Dosage has felt consistent. Maybe my threshold for what a "trip" is is just different from others, but don't get me wrong 400ug is a very intense experience for me. 150 is not.


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26465498 - 02/02/20 03:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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    #26465576 - 02/02/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I wouldn't trust what anyone says about the dose on your tabs unless they layed it themselves and know what they're doing. The people you get it from could very well be confident that the dose they tell you is correct. But that doesn't mean they're right. I don't have much experience with lsd but it seems like the dose is normally half of what people tell you it is. But yeah pot could definitely intensify a small dose to the point of being fully psychedelic. Especially over 100mg edible. A lot of the dose is destroyed by heat when smoked and in a joint a lot of it just gets waisted. Also a lot of the delta 9 thc is converted to 11 hydroxy thc when you eat it and it's something like 4 times as potent. And I think it has more of a psychedelic effect than delta 9 at high doses anyway.


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: azramb]
    #26465821 - 02/02/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I guess the mescaline saved me from having a brutal cannabis experience then


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26466200 - 02/03/20 02:10 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Cannabis is underrated as a psychedelic for sure. One could perhaps say that weed usage in modern times is basically a more mature version of the psilocybin microdosing culture that's been emerging recently - good for augmenting everyday experience in general, but only a relatively small percentage of the user population is interested in going super deep.

Edibles are the way if you want to go there. The upshot is it works best when your tolerance is low, so you can't do it as often. I only do edibles nowadays, once a month - no more daily/weekly vaping. It feels like a more beneficial relationship with the plant.

It really is an undervalued ally for psychonautical exploration. Check out this book for the spiritual take on cannabis: https://www.amazon.com/Cannabis-Spirituality-Explorers-Ancient-Spirit/dp/1620555832#customerReviews

Or read Dale Pendell's entry on cannabis in his book, very informative (download link): http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=1A0074AE96834553102166CD7EAC32DB

A few tips:
Even a microdose of psilocybin while on edibles sends things into overdrive for me - this is likely what happened with the mescaline still in your system OP

It generates a different kind of anxiety than mushrooms/LSD. Stretching/Meditation/breathing practice can help, but if not I find taking some kratom when the peak hits can send you from hell to heaven in 20 minutes or so - a lifesaver really.

Music is essential, something with meditative or hypnotic undertones greatly enhance the experience.


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Re: Full on pyschedelic experience from edible [Re: TheEschatologist]
    #26466271 - 02/03/20 05:06 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

was thinking about this further and there are 2 marijuana experiences I have had where I had far from the expected results. one time I was with a friend and we had just smoked weed and went back to my house to play MW2 at the time(this was like 10 years ago) and I started "tripping" out and I believed I was being shot at, but I knew in my mind I wasn't actually being shot at,almost seemed like I was watching myself being shot at. it seemed like reality at the time so I was scared as hell lying in a corner pretty much waiting the whole experience out.
there was another time where I hadn't smoked in 6 months, had a drink in 6 months, popped a pill in 6 months, I hadn't given my body any pleasures other than nicotine, sugar and caffeine. bought a gram of wax and ended up so fucking high off one hit I freaked out, flushed the wax and was overall not thrilled with myself. it was pretty wild. not necessarily psychedelic but pretty wild, almost dissociative like experiences.


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