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lmao. It was the chickens all along. They had us figured out and they played the long con.
I'll probably pay the price, I've eaten a few chickens worth of wings in my time.
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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: Tantrika]
#26464575 - 02/02/20 02:40 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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JizzMasterZero said: Who really would want a self driving car?
People who like to drop acid and then go to the ocean to watch the sunset during the peak.
geeze, and here was me thinking that it enables people with disabilities who can't legally drive themselves to reduce their dependence on having someone drive them around
Never even occurred to me for a second about mobilising disabled people, my first thought was very much like Asante's idea.
I'd love to be able to get around when tripping. "Hey car, take me to the beach." "Hey car, take me to the forest." "Hey car, take me home"
Sweeeeet. 
I wonder if there'll be some sort of capacity required to be a passenger though, like a minor auto-pilot sobriety requirement. That'd suck.
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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: Newbie]
#26464608 - 02/02/20 03:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Newbie said: MY only issue with self driving cars is the programming on collision decisions. If your car senses an immediate threat ahead, but there are groups of pedestrians on both sides of you, how will the car react? What's the most ethical choice? Swerve into the least amount of people to protect the, "driver?" Someone has to program this shit.
It's a pretty big can of worms.
This is honestly probably the key R&D issue.
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Asante
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Newbie said: MY only issue with self driving cars is the programming on collision decisions. If your car senses an immediate threat ahead, but there are groups of pedestrians on both sides of you, how will the car react? What's the most ethical choice? Swerve into the least amount of people to protect the, "driver?" Someone has to program this shit.
It's a pretty big can of worms.
This is honestly probably the key R&D issue.
I don't want an ethical car, I want a SUV that will plow through a football field of infant incubators, engaging 4x4 drive, if it had to to save my, its owner's, life.
I don't want a car that will drive me into a brick wall to save two cyclists.
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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: Asante]
#26464811 - 02/02/20 08:09 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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How can one ov driving capability have any self respect when being piloted in a self driving car? I'm for self driving cars only insofar as it will reduce the egregious impact Toyotadopes have on the roadways. Toyotadopes, being oblivious to self respect to begin with, will be the first to flock to these autopiloting vehicles as they likewise have no respect for operating a vehicle in a proper manner. They do not deserve to drive and it would be beneficial for suitable motorists to remove them from making decisions behind the wheel. My fear in this regard, however, is that the technology that drives these vehicles will mimic the glacial and oblivious mannerisms ov the Toyotadope.
Personally, i will never own a self driving car. I like cars and i like to drive. I do'nt even want to own an electric vehicle. Long live the internal combustion engine and the art ov driving!
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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: lavod]
#26464885 - 02/02/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you think toyota dopes are bad you should pay attention to SUV and minivan drivers of any model.
Self driving cars will be mandatory eventually. You won't be able drive a "manual" car with automatic traffic.
Especially once they're shown to be way more safe than human drivers.
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Self driving cars will be mandatory eventually. You won't be able drive a "manual" car with automatic traffic.
I never really considered that, that's interesting. Can you imagine being pulled over because driving is a crime? It won't be, "Sir do you know how fast you were driving?", it'll be, "Sir did you know that you were driving?"
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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: Newbie]
#26464908 - 02/02/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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There are already a test cars with no human controls. Future cars will be like that.
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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: Newbie]
#26464916 - 02/02/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Self driving cars will be mandatory eventually. You won't be able drive a "manual" car with automatic traffic.
I never really considered that, that's interesting. Can you imagine being pulled over because driving is a crime? It won't be, "Sir do you know how fast you were driving?", it'll be, "Sir did you know that you were driving?" 
Sir you were going 245 miles an hour on a 250 mile an hour lane. What were you even thinking? Either you lock IN or you fuck OFF.
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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: Asante]
#26464919 - 02/02/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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There won't be any need for cops to do traffic enforcement anymore period.
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I pay attention to all bad driving behavior and am on the road way more than most people due to my profession. Minivan drivers tend to be bad, yes, but the worst ov that lot is definitely Toyota Sienna drivers. As for non-Toyota minivans, Dodge Caravan(and the Chrysler/Plymouth offshoots) drivers are nearly as bad. I have no idea why people buy those to begin with. Perhaps they're just Toyotadopes who cant afford a Toyota. The Dodge Caravan is, in all my years ov driving, the vehicle i have seen broken down on the side ov the road more than any other. Transmissions, head gaskets, valve seals, piston rings, electrical problems, you name it. Horribly unreliable vehicles and it's been well documented for decades, yet people still buy them.
As for mandatory self driving cars, that's not happening anytime within my lifetime.
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bodhisatta 
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As far as collision avoidance and ethics go. It will be moot.
Roads will have sensors so will cars. Wildlife or person gets too close to roads all cars in the immediate area will halt or slow.
It will take deliberate suicide to get hit by the automatic vehicles and im that case fault is obvious.
The cars won't ever hit each other.
I don't want to see mandatory self driving but its absolutely inevitable in the next 40 years. Probably less
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I think its going to be great. Go on vacation and just sleep all the way there
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So then we get into, do they take away the steering wheel? Gas/clutch/brakes? What level of control will they leave in these vehicles beyond the radio? Will wipers be automatic too? What's the line between any of this?
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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: Newbie]
#26465360 - 02/02/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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No wipers. Optional probably if you want to be able to see. The sensors don't need wipers.
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Touché.
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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: Newbie]
#26465366 - 02/02/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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So would there even be a windshield then? I mean yeah you wanna see where you're going but Mercedes would orobably pull some shit where you don't need to see your surroundings.
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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: Newbie]
#26465386 - 02/02/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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There is a rolls Royce concept car with no windshield
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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: Newbie]
#26465683 - 02/02/20 05:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Newbie said: So would there even be a windshield then? I mean yeah you wanna see where you're going but Mercedes would orobably pull some shit where you don't need to see your surroundings.
few years ago one of the concept cars had screens built in for movie viewing, videogaming, or staying updated on the weather and the like
but yeah, feel like windows at minimum are important; it can be fun to sit in a train or the like and watch the world roll past
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