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    #26463385 - 02/01/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I hear about this all the time and I just don’t get it. Who really would want a self driving car? Actually we’ve already had this for a long time, it’s called Public Transportation, but people don’t want to use it because it’s lame. I think self driving cars would be equally lame and slow. Have you ever ridden on AMTRACK? Imagine being in the middle of bum fuck nowhere going 29.7 MPH to your destination 500 miles away. How about the way they cycle roller coaster trains at the amusement park, slow as Hell. This is how I imagine self driving cars to be. I’m not sure of the intentions here. Maybe this is simply just another step in the progress of human laziness. Maybe it’s more? Maybe you’ll have to log in to your cars computer, maybe it will only take you on certain roads that you “subscribe” to?  Maybe it’s all about tracking our every move? Maybe ever road will be a toll road, and your car keeps up with your mileage for which you get billed/taxed? Will some form of Google be in charge of your car, where you’re going, and when you’ll get there? Will it advertise to you, will it just happen to “accidentally” swing you by Burger King or McDonalds because those corporations paid google to send people? A self driving car would certainly keep a memory of everywhere it has taken each user, would you be OK with your entire travel history being available to your spouse? Maybe it all gets posted online for everyone to see? I think self driving cars are fucked up, I’d rather have a more effective and convenient public transportation system.


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #26463391 - 02/01/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So are you for or against public transportation?


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #26463392 - 02/01/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Self-Driving combines both, the convenience of having your vehicle (no waiting on a public transportation) with the convenience of not having to drive.

A win-win :yesnod:

That being said, some cities have some advanced public transportations. Like Denver. Its legit and u don't really need a car. But its nice to have a self-driving car especially if you travel a lot.


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26463437 - 02/01/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Self driving cars will change the business model entirely.

For urban and even suburban dwellers, you won't need to own a car, because you'll be able to schedule one any time. That isn't to say that people won't own them, but why would you when you could instead pay for the tiny fraction of the time that the car is in use? Right now, we own the entire thing, but the majority of the time it's rotting away outside your home or office. People are even so cognizant of that they build homes for their cars. It's a silly and wasteful system.

The insurance industry is also going to take a beating. Widespread driverless cars, as in a functional support system for them and their use, is at least 20 years out. We will continue to see it chip away though.

Road based bus rapid transit systems are the way of the future as far as public transport, IMO.


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: JizzMasterZero] * 1
    #26463441 - 02/01/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: christopera]
    #26463535 - 02/01/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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So are you for or against public transportation?




I’m for Public Transportation, just better than what most places currently have. It doesn’t need to be a big ass bus that comes by every hour, but everyone having their own car is just wasteful. For instance, I just drove my 3500 pound car to carry my 200 pound body 2 miles to get 20 pounds of groceries. That way too much energy spent. When looking at it from that angle, bicycles seem to be the best bet for the future. It would probably help with the Diabetes and obesity epidemic too. So that’s a win-win to me as long as I don’t get run over by all of the cars. We would need to restructure our cities to resemble the way things were before everyone was driving everywhere. Literally every fucking where, have you seen someone drive 100 feet down their driveway to get the mail? I have.


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #26463544 - 02/01/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Honestly, I think a lot of people think “I can cruise around drunk as shit and nobody can do anything about it”, and that’s as far as their thought process goes.
What if the car thinks you shouldn’t go to the liquor store? What if your spouse programs it to not allow it to take you to your friends house? What if you suddenly need to take an explosive dump, but your car doesn’t seem to sense the urgency?

In Google/Apple We Trust?


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: JizzMasterZero]
    #26463604 - 02/01/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I hear about this all the time and I just don’t get it. Who really would want a self driving car? Actually we’ve already had this for a long time, it’s called Public Transportation, but people don’t want to use it because it’s lame...I think self driving cars are fucked up, I’d rather have a more effective and convenient public transportation system.




Public transit depends on the city
for example, in my personal experience it is terrible in Winnipeg, Manitoba
because it is all based around busses, and the road system is a mess and by moving from a car to a bus all you are doing is removing the headache of trying to navigate it
in contrast, Montréal, Québec has a well-designed public transit system
with busses taking bus lanes through a better road network; and a metro system travelling under the city unimpeded by the traffic on the roads

we will likely see self-driving vehicles involved in public transit systems where the city is not large or prosperous enough to warrant underground or elevated (monorail) transit systems


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: JizzMasterZero] * 1
    #26463617 - 02/01/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The future is the opposite of what you imagine - if we're talking a 400mile road trip - roads designated for autonomous vehicles in communication with one another could easily exceed 120-140mph safely with tesla-like vehicles. I'll take that any day over a bunch of shit drivers weaving in and out of 65-75mph traffic.


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: twighead]
    #26463621 - 02/01/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: Crazy_Horse] * 1
    #26463633 - 02/01/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I'd like that too :awesome:

As well as autonomous flying vehicles going around 550~mph

Hyperloop if properly implemented, eventually may be able to push 1000 in tunnel systems


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: JizzMasterZero] * 1
    #26463654 - 02/01/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Who really would want a self driving car?




People who like to drop acid and then go to the ocean to watch the sunset during the peak.

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Public Transportation




Public transportation leads you to a public destination in the public eye.


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26463658 - 02/01/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Who really would want a self driving car?




People who like to drop acid and then go to the ocean to watch the sunset during the peak.





geeze,
and here was me thinking that it enables people with disabilities who can't legally drive themselves
to reduce their dependence on having someone drive them around


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #26463664 - 02/01/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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As a kid my mother knew someone who missed 3 fingers. He was a psychotic, obsessed with the fact that the had the constant recurring dream that he was going to jump before a train. He really wanted to, was enthusiastic about it. He had attempted it once but then as the train came he realized THIS WASNT THE TRAIN OF THE DREAM so he tried jumping off the rails but ended up losing 3 fingers.

Not long after he did catch the train of his dreams, or rather it caught him - dead on.


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: Asante]
    #26463860 - 02/01/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If people started getting self driving cars other people would still have their regular cars they drive and other people wouldn’t be able to afford the new self driving cars and people would want to hang on to their old cars so the people riding in the self driving cars would have to be careful of the people driving their old cars running into them, especially if they are slower


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #26464057 - 02/01/20 05:24 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Why would the people need to be careful of the other cars? The car is careful of the other cars... that's kinda the point :lol:


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: twighead]
    #26464062 - 02/01/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

MY only issue with self driving cars is the programming on collision decisions.  If your car senses an immediate threat ahead, but there are groups of pedestrians on both sides of you, how will the car react?  What's the most ethical choice?  Swerve into the least amount of people to protect the, "driver?"  Someone has to program this shit.

It's a pretty big can of worms.


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #26464073 - 02/01/20 05:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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This will also save an absolutely ridiculous amount of fuel and cut the emissions per car down dramatically


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #26464125 - 02/01/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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That's cool and all, but why did the chicken cross the road? That's the real question.


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Re: Self Driving Cars? [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #26464164 - 02/01/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Perhaps in the future, self-driving cars will let the chickens cross the road, completely unharmed.

Then we will understand the wayz of the chicken....


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