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psilocybin can produce ‘immediate, substantial and sustained improvements 2
#26463155 - 02/01/20 07:17 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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"...research team says the findings provide evidence that magic mushrooms could be a treatment among cancer patients – and could even help push legalization of the drug". https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/29/single-dose-magic-mushrooms-can-improve-mental-health-cancer-patients-12147690/
"In 2016, researchers found the effects of taking psilocybin over the course of six months resulted in 60% to 80% of participants noting significant reductions in depression or anxiety".
Who knew.
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Re: psilocybin can produce ‘immediate, substantial and sustained improvements [Re: deucedbi9] 1
#26464566 - 02/02/20 02:29 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: psilocybin can produce ‘immediate, substantial and sustained improvements [Re: deucedbi9]
#26464602 - 02/02/20 03:29 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Kanna may work as well being an SSRI. there is nothing that meaningful going on here. its not like shrooms prove a stupid god exists or something. even so they still wouldn't want to die ( I think). they even walk straight out of church and put their seatbelt on
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Re: psilocybin can produce ‘immediate, substantial and sustained improvements [Re: MikeTesserect] 3
#26465066 - 02/02/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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MikeTesserect said: Kanna may work as well being an SSRI. there is nothing that meaningful going on here. its not like shrooms prove a stupid god exists or something. even so they still wouldn't want to die ( I think). they even walk straight out of church and put their seatbelt on
Psilocybin's effects are not mediated by SSRI activity, and SSRI's don't work from a single dose. So I am not sure how relevant your comment is. SSRI's may help some cancer patients deal with some forms of depression and anxiety, but not in the way psilocybin has been shown to.
I don't think anyone is claiming that psilocybin is making cancer patients have a "come to Jesus" moment, or embrace death(although it has shown to have an ability to help terminal patients face it in a way that SSRI's never have).
To say there "is nothing meaningful" going on here is either very short-sighted, or very ignorant, and displays you may not be very well-versed in the research and the contrast between psilocybins benefit for terminal patients vs traditional antidepressant therapies.
You are talking about two totally different classes of medication, with two very different mechanisms of action, effects, and treatment outcomes. I'm really having trouble seeing what your point is. Considering SSRI's largely work by blunting emotion in general, take weeks to have an effect, and said effect is liable to fade shortly after stopping treatment...I'd say there is something very meaningful going on here.
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Re: psilocybin can produce ‘immediate, substantial and sustained improvements [Re: Holybullshit]
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Quote:
Holybullshit said:
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MikeTesserect said: Kanna may work as well being an SSRI. there is nothing that meaningful going on here. its not like shrooms prove a stupid god exists or something. even so they still wouldn't want to die ( I think). they even walk straight out of church and put their seatbelt on
Psilocybin's effects are not mediated by SSRI activity, and SSRI's don't work from a single dose. So I am not sure how relevant your comment is. SSRI's may help some cancer patients deal with some forms of depression and anxiety, but not in the way psilocybin has been shown to.
I don't think anyone is claiming that psilocybin is making cancer patients have a "come to Jesus" moment, or embrace death(although it has shown to have an ability to help terminal patients face it in a way that SSRI's never have).
To say there "is nothing meaningful" going on here is either very short-sighted, or very ignorant, and displays you may not be very well-versed in the research and the contrast between psilocybins benefit for terminal patients vs traditional antidepressant therapies.
You are talking about two totally different classes of medication, with two very different mechanisms of action, effects, and treatment outcomes. I'm really having trouble seeing what your point is. Considering SSRI's largely work by blunting emotion in general, take weeks to have an effect, and said effect is liable to fade shortly after stopping treatment...I'd say there is something very meaningful going on here.
Well said Hbs, couldn't have said it better myself.
Cancer patients definitely aren't having a come to Jesus moment as you say but I do believe that it helps give them a sense of peace from knowing that maybe there is something after this life and it's ok to move on, it's not the end is what I get from some of my experiences.
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Re: psilocybin can produce ‘immediate, substantial and sustained improvements [Re: Holybullshit]
#26467873 - 02/04/20 04:04 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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a bunch of stupid neuromolecules doing work... wow! how meaningful...………..
Edited by MikeTesserect (02/04/20 04:04 AM)
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Re: psilocybin can produce ‘immediate, substantial and sustained improvements [Re: MikeTesserect]
#26468022 - 02/04/20 07:33 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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For people suffering, it is.
With an attitude like that, I'd guess you wouldn't find the discovery of penicillin very meaningful either. "A bunch of stupid antibiotic molecules doing work..."
I am having trouble imagining any healthcare advancement, let alone for mental health, that you would find meaningful.
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Re: psilocybin can produce ‘immediate, substantial and sustained improvements [Re: Holybullshit]
#26468035 - 02/04/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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u all have a point, but its a bunch of stupid life molecules wanting to incessantly do work as well. its all meaningless to the point where its stupid to live. nonsense underlies all rationale
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Re: psilocybin can produce ‘immediate, substantial and sustained improvements [Re: MikeTesserect]
#26469063 - 02/04/20 06:57 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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MikeTesserect said: u all have a point, but its a bunch of stupid life molecules wanting to incessantly do work as well. its all meaningless to the point where its stupid to live. nonsense underlies all rationale
it's far from stupid to want to live, you apparently haven't lived enough to see the beauty of life.
Constantly searching for the negative will blind you to the positive, stop focusing on the bad shit and start looking at the good no matter how small it is at the moment and it will grow.
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Re: psilocybin can produce ‘immediate, substantial and sustained improvements [Re: Doc9151]
#26469626 - 02/05/20 03:27 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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lol I see beauty everywhere. the universe is complete neutral nonsense to me at this point! everything is in its natural state even when I watch the willy nilly news
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Re: psilocybin can produce ‘immediate, substantial and sustained improvements [Re: Holybullshit]
#26479541 - 02/11/20 04:06 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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the psychedelic experience is mostly bullshit by the way! I learned from adverse effects caused by an overdose of serotonin that life was meaningless. U can learn from psychosis, solitude, or just about anything. the visuals are still great ( brain glitch)
Edited by MikeTesserect (02/11/20 04:07 AM)
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Re: psilocybin can produce ‘immediate, substantial and sustained improvements [Re: MikeTesserect]
#26479616 - 02/11/20 06:21 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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good to know
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Re: psilocybin can produce ‘immediate, substantial and sustained improvements [Re: Holybullshit]
#26482281 - 02/12/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Natural psychadelics, specifically psilocybin/psilocin are a godsend at repairing damaged & enhancing neural pathways.
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