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OfflineSimpleSimon
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After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose?
    #26463100 - 02/01/20 06:18 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

A little while ago I went on a 10 gram mushroom trip, recently I decided to try an easy 5 gram trip. During this trip, nothing happened, no visuals, no sounds, no communication,  only the feeling in my brain that I had taken mushrooms. I spent a couple of hours arguing with myself, thats about it.

so my question is, can you ever go back to lower doses? is 10 grams my new "bandwidth" so to speak.

does anyone have any experience with this?


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: SimpleSimon]
    #26463103 - 02/01/20 06:25 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Well.. first of, how long did you wait between dosing?

feeling basically nothing on 5g mushrooms seems very weird without built up tolerance.


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: Hotdog from Space]
    #26463133 - 02/01/20 06:59 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

over a month between the 10g and 5g.

i don't microdose and before the 10g, I hadn't taken any mushrooms for a couple of months.


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: SimpleSimon]
    #26463137 - 02/01/20 07:05 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Could be a combination of 2 variables: you are extremely insensitive to psilocin, and your mushrooms are really weak.

How was the 10g experience? I’d expect you saw the Big Bang, quantum mechanics in action, god......?

A 5g dose after a month abstention should have sky-rocketed you into hyperspace...


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: DJ Ed] * 1
    #26463152 - 02/01/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

the 10g was beyond description.

I grow my own, the 5g was from the same batch as the 10g.

I also have the odd sensation that i am on a mushroom trip permanently, all be it at low dose...the "brain pressure" is near constant.

i do the wim hoff breathing daily along with cold showers 3-4 times a week. I eat almost no carbs and deadlift like a mofo.

the constant trip feeling is odd


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: SimpleSimon]
    #26463170 - 02/01/20 07:42 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm yes it does sound rather odd. Though maybe it’s a change in yourself that has occurred since a high dose. Waking reality can never be the same again after a profound deep trip. Maybe you’re now more aware of your body?

I’m not too clued up on how tolerance affects others, only myself using doses I’m used to; if that makes sense? After a 5+ gram trip, I generally take many months off; and then when I do come back, it will be in the 3 - 4g range.

So my guess then would be that after your 10g trip, you need a significant gap before your next. For this reason, my “sweetspot” seems to be around 3.8g cubensis. On that dose, I can trip at much more frequent intervals without any loss in potency, and with enough time to integrate the lesser experiences. I say lesser, but I still go deep, rewardingly so.

Finally regarding MS, and doses from the same flush; many peeps on here tell me that’s the reason I can have a strong trip then a weak trip. But I’ve never experienced it to this degree. Yes I accept there is variability within an MS flush, but only slight. The whole flush will tend towards a particular potency; if you remember any mathematics, think of a bell curve with potency the y-axis and mushrooms on the x-axis. At each end of the x-axis will be a small percentage of mushrooms, but the majority will fall under the middle of the curve...the bell. Dose that make sense?

I’ve found a picture of a bell curve on t’int...: Bell Curve
...might make more sense.

So for that reason, I don’t think your poor 5g experience was down to MS genetics; I think it’s much more likely it’s your tolerance. Give yourself a few months, try again, see if you get “the magic”. If you do, then maybe consider how frequently you would like to trip, and adjust your doses accordingly.

Hope this helps, dude,
DJ Ed


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26463190 - 02/01/20 08:02 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

the constant trip feeling seems to create a feeling of de ja vu after every event that happens in my life, like i've experienced it before. So I don't really react to anything as significantly as I used to...because its already happened.

i'll conduct an experiment, in 2 weeks i'll take another 5 grams and see what happens. If i don't experience anything i'll give it a break for a couple of months.

when i say the same batch, i have a number of grow tubs of the same strain, i don't sort them after harvest, so i mix them all together. So it is unlikely the mushrooms are weaker.


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: SimpleSimon]
    #26463219 - 02/01/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Are you on any type of medication or take any supplements(herbal or preworkout for example)?


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: SimpleSimon]
    #26463252 - 02/01/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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SimpleSimon said:
recently I decided to try an easy 5 gram trip.





:whattefuck2:

I don't know what would cause me to describe 5g as easy. Tolerance, low potency mushrooms? SSRI's?

Maybe back off for a while and integrate. Focus on other things?
10g would cause a serious disturbance of mind for me. 5g is huge even...


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: Kimble]
    #26463282 - 02/01/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I used to eat a half oz and not even catch a buzz, it can take a long time for your tolerance to return to normal once you start eating that much. That’s been a couple of years but I can trip hard on 6 or 7 gs now.


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: Kimble] * 1
    #26463284 - 02/01/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

OP, are you eating them whole? How do you prep them?

I ask because I prefer to grind an entire batch with a coffee grinder and make capsules.  I figure that's the best way to make each time as consistent as possible...i.e. homogenized


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #26463293 - 02/01/20 09:27 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Otta be a grow from a spore syringe. Just happen to had a 5 gram weak batch

In my experience my higher doses only made me more sensitive to lower doses.


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: Eclipse3130] * 1
    #26463320 - 02/01/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

when I say easy 5 I'm joking. there is nothing easy about it.

i 'm not on any medication what so ever.

over the coarse of 2.5 years i've probably been on 20  (5 gram) trips, sometimes they were about 7 grams.

the effects have never diminished before, its always been awesome and i have never had a single bad experience.

i grind up the mushrooms and mix it in yogurt, i can't stand the taste or smell of them.

in my last 7 or so trips i re-integrate in less than a day.


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: SimpleSimon]
    #26463321 - 02/01/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

i grow mine from spores collected from the previous generation. cultivate in a petri dish and select rhizomorphic ....etc, etc.

i have a 5 strain library.


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: SimpleSimon]
    #26463341 - 02/01/20 09:59 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

SimpleSimon said:

in my last 7 or so trips i re-integrate in less than a day.




Really? Sometimes it takes me months to integrate the content of a trip. I don't mean coming down. I mean processing the content, thoughts, insights and emotions into a whole and completely integrated part of my Self. I think maybe we mean different things when we say integrate.

I don't mean to be a party pooper/boring old fud but dude, maybe you should slow down a bit or even take a break? Your large doses, high frequency of use, reported speed of integration, reported low perceived effects, all kinda add up to a feeling that perhaps you are not getting as much out of this as you could be. It might be worth changing your approach, dose and reintegration schedule to something slower and lower.

How old are you Simon?


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: SimpleSimon]
    #26463372 - 02/01/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The obvious answer is that your mushrooms lack potency, and that your "10 gram trip" amounted to nothing more than an average experience, and your 5 gram trip with low potency shrooms was therefore a complete disappointment.

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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #26463422 - 02/01/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

how dare you insinuate that my mushrooms lack potency :smile:

i took the 10 grams with another person who has been on many trips (they had an equal dose), they vouched for the virility of the fungi.

lest not further question the glory of my grow.


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: Kimble]
    #26463443 - 02/01/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

i'm 40.

i never took any narcotic prior to slightly over 2 years ago.

i have gone months between some trips and other times i have taken every two weeks. at one point i had to slow down as i was changing too quickly.

the first times i took shrooms it took weeks to "integrate".

some notable trip highlights:

- met "god" a couple of times
- met the assemblers of base reality
- de-tanked...ala the matrix style
- met the group watching over this section of the matrix
- upgraded numerous times (base code re-write)
- seen the city of golden light
- visited the horseshoe nebula
- briefly went into the body of other people (similar to how you observe the sims)
- completely dis-embodied and removed from the program and asked if i would like to be installed somewhere else (i pussied out)

its been fun


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: SimpleSimon]
    #26463459 - 02/01/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

yeah idk how this stuff happens, but it happens, I've had tolerance breaks, taken shrooms and acid and experienced minimal/no effects, then I try the same shit again a few days later and it's like God itself sat on my dick and gave my mind an orgasm. I definitely have noticed this more with shrooms than acid. but i've taken multiple heroic doses and if anything it's given me a much greater appreciation for lower doses. it's fun taking 10-15 hits of acid, it isn't easy to integrate these experiences in life. I think the more you use psychedelics the more you realize this natural progression. within my first 10 trips I went from 1 tab to 14, and havent taken more than 2 at a time since and generally just stick to one. I feel that this helps get me into the headspace I was in on my heroic doses while still remaining close enough to myself that I can make sense of some of the information i'm receiving. when you look at what your brain does on psychedelics it connects neural pathways between different function centers that don't normally communicate. you're increasing neural pathways that many people aren't capable of reaching on their own. you need to be able to integrate these experiences and thoughts into your life or you will just seem mad. I can't imagine being able to integrate a trip into my reality in just one day, and if I could, I wouldn't need to go down the rabbit hole regularly as my perception on reality would be so great the drug itself would do nothing for me at that point. personally I don't know what the meaning of life is anymore, but others are doing a good enough job at procreating. no matter how "hard" you trip, you should be able to pull something from the experience though. last shroom trip I ate 5 grams and then had maybe a gram a few days later and still felt effects so I have a hard time believing that your shrooms are that bad.


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Re: After 10 grams, can you go back to a lower dose? [Re: SimpleSimon]
    #26463460 - 02/01/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Nope, you're broken forever now and can never use a lower dose ever again :cookiemonster:

I think OP is talking wet grams not dry. And/or it's a multispore grow that's weak. And/or he's on meds or just a hard head. Take your pick.


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