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I want to try agar for the first time and I got everything I need besides parafilm.
A lot of people recommend glad cling wrap as a replacement but I haven't been able to find any, and I've seen that regular saran wrap doesn't allow enough gas exchange.
From what I've read so far micropore tape should do the trick as long as it doesn't get wet. Which would you rather use? regular saran wrap or micropore tape?
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Regular seran wrap isn't good for long term (2months+) as it doesn't allow gas exchange, could just re-wrap your plates until you get some Parafilm for long term storing... One roll should last a few years atleast ha.
Micropore tape is a pain to work with it's not easy to remove and leaves a mess around the edges of the plate.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Kmacmo]
#26463081 - 02/01/20 05:50 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Micropore tape is also sticky so imagine the things your sticking to the gas exchange area of your jars... Parafilm is good, but alot of what is out there on the market is dry rejected lab stuff, so be careful where you buy it, This is one thing I get frusterated with buying on Amazon and would probably do better using a sponsor.
I think I might move to Clingwrap for short term use and Parafilm for long term storage because I seem to go through rolls pretty fast.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Sockadin] 1
#26463110 - 02/01/20 06:30 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Congrats on giving agar a try. You won't regret it!
I baught a small amount of parafilm when I started agar work. Once I run out I switched to seran wrap.
The way I do it it's to not fully wrap the petri dish all the way around but leave half an inch without wrap for gas exchange, never had contam problems so far.
As Kmacmo mentioned it might not be good for long term storage tough.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: pppp] 1
#26463244 - 02/01/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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you can just put them in individual sandwich bags or ziplocks in a pinch.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: sandman420] 1
#26463258 - 02/01/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Saran wrap. One full roll can be cut into like 8+ rolls. Each roll will wrap like 150 plates. All for like $4
Do the math compared to anything else.
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Contrary to what others are saying here, in my experience Micropore tape works wonderfully. The problem is that the plates and mycelium will dry out, necessitating additional wrapping with cling wrap anyway if you want to fully grow out a culture and more so if you intend to keep it for longer.
I finally decided a few weeks ago that I'm going to switch to Parafilm, I think it's a must for medium to long term storage of mycelium, especially slants. It's permeable to air, keeps the moisture in and contaminants out. It can be easily handled with gloves and is removable without hassle. It comes in a dispenser box which makes cutting of a required strip so much easier that faffing around with cling wrap. I found affordable Parafilm on Aliexpress and now I'm eagerly awaiting its arrival.
You only need a narrow strip of Parafilm for a single petri dish because Parafilm is extremely stretchy. I would recommend folding it however so that there is double layer sealing the dish, because stretched Parafilm tends to develop cracks after a while.
Source for the info on Parafilm: Youtube videos on the usage proper handling of Parafilm for petri dishes and conical tubes.
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The_Brown_Wizard said: I want to try agar for the first time and I got everything I need besides parafilm.
A lot of people recommend glad cling wrap as a replacement but I haven't been able to find any, and I've seen that regular saran wrap doesn't allow enough gas exchange.
From what I've read so far micropore tape should do the trick as long as it doesn't get wet. Which would you rather use? regular saran wrap or micropore tape?
Having worked in a lab using parafilm it's pretty nice to never have to dick around with that shit again. Tape is sticky don't use that
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta]
#26463359 - 02/01/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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For me seranwrap was a nightmare, I hate the stuff. Was a constant fight of it snagging along the top and bottom of the roll. I bought this stuff and will never go back, love it HAINABC Grafting Tape 2 PCS, Stretchable Garden Grafting Tape Plants Repair Tapes for Floral Fruit Tree and Poly Budding Tape - Green & White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SS3QF1S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GbBnEb7HF1QDA
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: D3_Myc]
#26463371 - 02/01/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Like how lol. Watch my videos
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta]
#26463469 - 02/01/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Having worked in a lab using parafilm it's pretty nice to never have to dick around with that shit again.
Bodhisatta, can you give some more detail what the problems with parafilm were? And what your solution is?
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Intern]
#26463487 - 02/01/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cling wrap is so nice, I def wouldn’t use tape and it would get expensive fast.
I thought cutting the roll of cling would be a problem but I put a fresh blade in a box cutter and it was super fast.
Once you get the hang of using the cling rolls it takes maybe two seconds to wrap a plate and you can hardly tell anything is on it, plus it lasts forever. It’s looking like my one box of cling will easily last through two 500 plate cases and that’s with wrapping each plate multiple times from taking transfers.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Intern]
#26463499 - 02/01/20 11:32 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Having worked in a lab using parafilm it's pretty nice to never have to dick around with that shit again.
Bodhisatta, can you give some more detail what the problems with parafilm were? And what your solution is?
Cutting it to size for plates is lame. Cling wrap is rapid quick and easy in comparison. Then there's the backing paper for parafilm making a mess. Parafilm means my hands are leaving the SAB or laminar flow more often. Disposing of the backing paper or cutting the strips(or you precut them). Idk it's just 10x easier to use a little roll of cling wrap imo
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#26463505 - 02/01/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Your kitchen knife needs to do this before you try cutting a roll of wrap up. They should always be this sharp
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta]
#26463610 - 02/01/20 12:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Maybe my problem was I used a chop saw to cut my cling wrap. The grafting tape I Posted above is stretchy and clings nice and tears with a few lbs force.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: D3_Myc]
#26464603 - 02/02/20 03:29 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Does that grafting tape allow gas exchange? Seems like something I want to try instead of cutting up seran wrap or like bodhisatta said cutting up the Parafilm is annoying.
Pre cut rolls of seran wrap are dead easy and fast at wrapping the plates I just worry about suffocating the mycelium and take the extra effort and use Parafilm mainly.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Kmacmo] 2
#26464634 - 02/02/20 04:19 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Big thanks for all the feedback guys
I'm gonna try using saran wrap and I'll definitely check out bodhisatta's videos.
Right now I have 100 of those disposable plastic plates and I don't intend to have cultures in them for longer than a few weeks.
I started looking into no pour methods of doing agar recently (small jars with micropore tape on the lid) and once I'm done with the plates I already have I think I'll try doing no pour as I don't enjoy the idea of creating plastic waste when it can be avoided
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Kmacmo]
#26464676 - 02/02/20 05:53 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Kmacmo said: Does that grafting tape allow gas exchange? Seems like something I want to try instead of cutting up seran wrap or like bodhisatta said cutting up the Parafilm is annoying.
Pre cut rolls of seran wrap are dead easy and fast at wrapping the plates I just worry about suffocating the mycelium and take the extra effort and use Parafilm mainly.
It’s clear is made from polyethylene which is gas permeable. Not sure about the green roll but it probably is as well.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: D3_Myc] 1
#26464698 - 02/02/20 06:28 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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For those who use saran wrap, you should try press'nseal wrap. It seals vessels much better and longer than saran.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: mr001]
#26464753 - 02/02/20 07:13 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Press N Seal reminds me of Parafilm
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Pns sticks but easily comes off and doesn’t have to be torn. I can’t stand saran wrap or parafilm. Saran Wrap is a pita to remove as well.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: mr001]
#26464870 - 02/02/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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mr001 said: For those who use saran wrap, you should try press'nseal wrap. It seals vessels much better and longer than saran.
Ive have dishes over a couple years old in my fridge with normal cling wrap. Not too sure i need something that lasts longer than 3+ years
@eat do i need to make a taking saran off dishes video it's the easiest thing in the world man. You don't even unwrap it you can just pull it off as a ring. Then you don't have a stringy mess on your hands either
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta]
#26465033 - 02/02/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I started doing that also because I couldn’t pick the end off with gloves on. I figured out I could just pull on part of the wrap and it stretches enough to just pop the dish out.
Then ball up the wrap and koooobbeee.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: A.k.a]
#26465279 - 02/02/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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So I can see someone doing a write up of Parafilm/Saran/pressandseal now.... Why not just use caulking and glue the kids shut. Lol
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Sockadin]
#26465962 - 02/02/20 08:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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You don't pick At the edge. You simply drag your finger tip against the direction of the wrap and it rolls the edge right up. I guarantee there is nothing easier. Especially if you use rubber gloves, it sticks so hard it never fails to roll it up.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta]
#26559836 - 03/26/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bodhisatta: I'm sorry to resurrect this thread but I'm curious. I've started using parafilm since our last exchange and I really love it. When you wrote about hating to cut parafilm to size, did you mean strips or a square to cover the whole plate? (Which some people seem to be doing.)
Cause I just cut off a strip, a little less than an inch, from the dispenser using large scissors. And I get a very nice clean seal around the edge of my plates. Very convenient and beautiful. And of course it provides gas exchange.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Intern]
#26560135 - 03/26/20 09:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Parafilm for the win. Saran wrap sucks for plates. But that's just my shitty opinion...
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: LotKid]
#26560574 - 03/27/20 06:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I find Saran Wrap to be a pita as well. I was just unwrapping a plate. Parafilm is easy to wrap plates up. For Saran Wrap do you have to cut it into strips? I don’t cut parafilm. I simple wrap and stretch it around the plate and pull and it comes off. Can’t get easier than that.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: eatyualive]
#26560583 - 03/27/20 06:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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See Bodhi's comment here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26463505#26463505
I'm sure it's the next best thing... after using strips of Parafilm.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Intern]
#26560630 - 03/27/20 07:05 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Can you summarize?
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: eatyualive]
#26560639 - 03/27/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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If I must. The way I understand it Bodhi cuts off a slice of the cling wrap roll with a very sharp knife and uses the resulting mini roll to wrap the plates along their edge.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Intern] 2
#26560661 - 03/27/20 07:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, this is what i do all day. Just cut the roll into rolls the size of electrical tape. it covers just the edge and then overlaps onto the bottom and lid by like a 1/8" and seals clear so you can even tell its there. I don't think anyone is promoting what some people do by wrapping there dishes with entire roll width sections like leftover meatloaf.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Smartattack] 1
#26560674 - 03/27/20 07:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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cut the Saran Wrap with a PVC pipe cutter..nice and clean cut
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Intern]
#26560743 - 03/27/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Intern said: If I must. The way I understand it Bodhi cuts off a slice of the cling wrap roll with a very sharp knife and uses the resulting mini roll to wrap the plates along their edge.
Yeah, that's dumb.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Intern] 1
#26560764 - 03/27/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Intern said: Bodhisatta: I'm sorry to resurrect this thread but I'm curious. I've started using parafilm since our last exchange and I really love it. When you wrote about hating to cut parafilm to size, did you mean strips or a square to cover the whole plate? (Which some people seem to be doing.)
Cause I just cut off a strip, a little less than an inch, from the dispenser using large scissors. And I get a very nice clean seal around the edge of my plates. Very convenient and beautiful. And of course it provides gas exchange.
You use strips of parafilm. You don't cover the whole dish just the edge.
If Saran isn't easier than parafilm you either are salty bod exists or have motor neuron damage. It takes less than half the time to wrap a stack with cling film than parafilm. Not like its worth the argument people like one or the other. Some people just have an agenda to try to be losers.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta]
#26560855 - 03/27/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah but parafilm is on a roll and you can easily wrap around the plate and pull and it’s done. Super simple for me. No way I’m cutting pieces of anything. Cutting 50 plates of Saran Wrap, no thank you. Seems like a lot more work than a quick wrap and pull. I also have not tried the Saran Wrap like that but I have trouble wrapping leftovers in a bowl with Saran Wrap. 
Press n seal though is very sticky and sticks to plastic as well. I haven’t tried it on plates but I’m also not cutting pieces of that either.
I use rolls of it like this.
https://www.ebay.com/i/251358759105?chn=ps&var=550293785723&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=550293785723_251358759105&targetid=886140166958&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9012020&campaignid=9426387333&mkgroupid=90869814370&rlsatarget=pla-886140166958&abcId=1140476&merchantid=114772121&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2fWxtoW76AIVE2yGCh2I_w2KEAQYAyABEgIf8vD_BwE
I also use no pours that don’t need to be wrapped. So I’m really only wrapping plates that kind members donated with the parafilm. But I find the Saran Wrap remove a little wonky.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: eatyualive]
#26560977 - 03/27/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I never tried parafilm, shit's expensive. Saran wrap works and is easy to use.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: poisoned]
#26561037 - 03/27/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I dont need to watch a video to know that cutting up a roll of saran wrap is complete waste of my time.
Parafilm is cheap! When used properly it lasts a long time.
I've tried saran wrap just to see what i think and i think it sucks. I dont like that i cant strecth it like parafilm. It doesnt feel as secure to me.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: LotKid] 1
#26561150 - 03/27/20 01:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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LotKid said: Parafilm is cheap! When used properly it lasts a long time.
It's at least 10x the price of saran wrap
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LotKid said: I've tried saran wrap just to see what i think and i think it sucks. I dont like that i cant strecth it like parafilm. It doesnt feel as secure to me.
#StickWithWhatWerx
What? Saran wrap definitely stretches. I think it's more about your technique than the issue with saran wrap itself.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: poisoned] 1
#26561212 - 03/27/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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There’s some miscommunication about how cling works. You wouldn’t have to cut 50 pieces, you just saw off an inch of wrap from the main roll and that’s it.
Press the loose edge against the dish pull it tight and spin it around snap it off and the plates wrapped so tight it’s invisible.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: A.k.a]
#26561244 - 03/27/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I’ve had a roll of parafilm going on 10 years but I’m not growing a mountain either. Looks to be about halfway through. I love those holy grail plates, no wrapping required.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: eatyualive] 3
#26561316 - 03/27/20 02:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Guys......
It stretches and breaks immediately. You don't cut length. If forms a great seal, plates last forever. It's invisible, not ugly. It's fast as fuck, not slow.
I've done both, Saran wins in all departments. Not to mention cost.
But yeah, whatever at the same time lol.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Smartattack]
#26561412 - 03/27/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Literally don't even get what the method is say it's retarded.
Again clear as day they're here just to be loser trolls
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta] 2
#26561502 - 03/27/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, i'm certainly not here to get all the noobs to worship me and then rewrite everyone's teks with my name on them like some kind of megalomaniac.
I wonder if places like Aloha or Penn State Mycology use saran wrap for anything more then their sammiches?
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta]
#26561513 - 03/27/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well I used saran and it worked pretty great for me
At first, seeing that parafilm was the "standard" I really thought that I was cutting corners by not getting some and I thought of it as a short term solution
But saran does the job damn well and is a lot cheaper than parafilm + you can find it locally in pretty much any store. Even when I wrapped my first plates ever I found it to be extremely easy to use.
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I've used saran wrap and i dont prefer it over parafilm and anyone who is saying that saran wrap is cheaper in the long run clearly doesnt know how to use parafilm properly.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: LotKid]
#26561533 - 03/27/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Like I said, one roll has lasted me 10 plus years. And it’s only halfway though. And I’ve been growing the entire time.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: LotKid] 3
#26561538 - 03/27/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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For $3-4 you get a roll 200' long. I get 14 rolls per roll which gets you 2,800' of wrap for the price of a cheap burger. I haven't looked lately but I'm sure if you buy over half a mile of para it's expensive. Plus the cling wrap stretches a bit to boot while applying.🤷
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: eatyualive]
#26561543 - 03/27/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Let me be clear... i'm not saying that saran wrap doesnt work for plates. It does. I just think it sucks for plates and that parafilm is easier, more secure and cheaper in the long run.
#RealLabSupplies
And saran wrap might stretch a tad but not like parafilm.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: LotKid] 2
#26561546 - 03/27/20 04:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Now you're just making stuff up. It's literally not cheaper at all ever. You don't lose cultures with either kind of wrap lol.
Anyone who's actually used both will have a chuckle at this thread.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: eatyualive] 1
#26561552 - 03/27/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm making stuff up, huh?
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eatyualive said: Like I said, one roll has lasted me 10 plus years. And it’s only halfway though. And I’ve been growing the entire time.
There's one other person that knows what i'm talking about.
I remember someone straight lying about filters on ebay. Still waiting for that link, btw...
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: LotKid]
#26561556 - 03/27/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm chuckling at this thread! I've used both!
Saran wrap just feels like amatuer hour to me...
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: LotKid] 1
#26561599 - 03/27/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I use industrial shrink wrap rolls like they use to wrap boxes on pallets in warehouses. Slice them into smaller rolls with a bandsaw. There should still be some left for my great grandkids. 
Seriously though parafilm & saran wrap both work. There are pros & cons to both & people have different preferences. Why are we pushing which wrap is "better"? Just find what works for you & roll with it.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: FooMan]
#26561603 - 03/27/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I see what you did there “roll with it”
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: FooMan] 2
#26561639 - 03/27/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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FooMan said: Just find what works for you & roll with it.
I agree. It's annoying that some people are making stuff up to downplay a good, cheap and easily obtainable solution. Just because it's not poundsignlabmaterial
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: eatyualive] 1
#26561644 - 03/27/20 05:26 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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#StickWithWhatWerx <- i've been saying this.
I have no idea why which is better is such a heated discusstion. All i've really said is that in my shitty opinion, i think saran wrap is better suited for the kitchen and not the lab. But that's just what i think and lets be honest, nobody really cares what i think...
And i'm totally cool with it... 
And gotta say... not making anything up, either.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: LotKid] 2
#26561699 - 03/27/20 05:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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LotKid said: #StickWithWhatWerx <- i've been saying this.
I have no idea why which is better is such a heated discusstion. All i've really said is that in my shitty opinion, i think saran wrap is better suited for the kitchen and not the lab. But that's just what i think and lets be honest, nobody really cares what i think...
And i'm totally cool with it... 
And gotta say... not making anything up, either.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: poisoned]
#26561843 - 03/27/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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poisoned said:
Quote:
FooMan said: Just find what works for you & roll with it.
I agree. It's annoying that some people are making stuff up to downplay a good, cheap and easily obtainable solution. Just because it's not poundsignlabmaterial
Not sure why you're quoting me to say you "agree" then adding a dumbass comment perpetuating this bullshit arguement.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: FooMan]
#26561868 - 03/27/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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FooMan said:
Not sure why you're quoting me to say you "agree" then adding a dumbass comment perpetuating this bullshit arguement.
I'm totally with you on that. I'm glad we all agree to just use cling wraps.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Smartattack]
#26561932 - 03/27/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Glad to see SOMEONE is on the same page
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Smartattack]
#26561947 - 03/27/20 07:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Smartattack said:
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FooMan said:
Not sure why you're quoting me to say you "agree" then adding a dumbass comment perpetuating this bullshit arguement.
I'm totally with you on that. I'm glad we all agree to just use cling wraps.
Good! Save all the parafilm for the true mycophiles!
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: LotKid]
#26562098 - 03/27/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I’m telling you guys, I think press n seal would work incredible.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: eatyualive]
#26562105 - 03/27/20 08:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think press and seal would work better than cling wrap.
I'm still gonna claim it's sub par to parafilm.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: LotKid] 2
#26562155 - 03/27/20 09:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Man.. take away ppls toilet paper and shit gets heated. Pun most definitely intended

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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: fahtster]
#26562259 - 03/27/20 10:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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#🧻Shortage2020
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: LotKid] 2
#26562826 - 03/28/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Best part about #real lab supplies. Is that real labs use food cling film to store cultures longer than with parafilm because even double wrapped cultures can dry out after a year or two and it tends to crack with age.
Lots of real important labs use it because it works better in some applications
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta]
#26562870 - 03/28/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You are too funny faht. The great TP shortage of 2020.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#26562873 - 03/28/20 10:16 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Show me where i've said that cling wrap doest work. I dont think i ever have. I think i've stated repeatedly that it does work and is an option. I just think it sucks... am i not allowed to form my own opinion? That's what this seems like.
Now bod, while youre in the mood to pull up and share links... can i get the links to the filters that you said are so readily available on ebay? And if you cant provide these links to products you told me exist then that would continue to make you a liar, sir.
And as far as long term stroage for my myco... i use slants... not plates. Slants dont dry out as fast.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: LotKid] 1
#26562935 - 03/28/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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you said it's retarded.
And now you're trying to strawman. What filters? If i remember you didn't think laminar hepas come in low static pressure numbers now. Dimple pleat hepas are usually less than 0.5" resistance and are made specifically for laminar flow applications. You can find NOS filters from the 90s with 1.5 or higher for the same purposes
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta] 3
#26563020 - 03/28/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: FooMan]
#26563144 - 03/28/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: cronicr] 1
#26563153 - 03/28/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I’d dip my balls in it. I wonder what cling wrap underwear would feel like, now that we are talking about wrapping plates in it.
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The_Brown_Wizard said: I want to try agar for the first time and I got everything I need besides parafilm.
A lot of people recommend glad cling wrap as a replacement but I haven't been able to find any, and I've seen that regular saran wrap doesn't allow enough gas exchange.
From what I've read so far micropore tape should do the trick as long as it doesn't get wet. Which would you rather use? regular saran wrap or micropore tape?
saran wrap. you're just starting out so you won't be storing cultures your shits not gonna suffocate enough to kill it and you won't be fumbling with tape
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: cronicr]
#26563164 - 03/28/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mp tape would be a pain in the ass. And you’ll burn through it doing anything more than really small project.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: A.k.a] 1
#26563174 - 03/28/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Has anyone tried mp tape on plates? I think it would be too sticky.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: eatyualive]
#26563184 - 03/28/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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eatyualive said: Has anyone tried mp tape on plates? I think it would be too sticky.
Yes, it actually sucks.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Smartattack]
#26563207 - 03/28/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I did. While it works, it's probably the worst of all options. Especially if you use glass plates.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: poisoned]
#26563227 - 03/28/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I bet it’s extremely difficult to remove off a plate. I don’t even like using it on my tubs.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: A.k.a]
#26563234 - 03/28/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
A.k.a said:
Quote:
FooMan said: Wrap Battle 2020!

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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta]
#26563433 - 03/28/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: you said it's retarded.
And now you're trying to strawman. What filters? If i remember you didn't think laminar hepas come in low static pressure numbers now. Dimple pleat hepas are usually less than 0.5" resistance and are made specifically for laminar flow applications. You can find NOS filters from the 90s with 1.5 or higher for the same purposes
Yes, i said its retarded! I never said it didnt work!
Whos grasping at strawmen? 
Can you show me where i said clingwrap doesnt work? #SaranWrap4Tards
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta]
#26563444 - 03/28/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: you said it's retarded.
And now you're trying to strawman. What filters? If i remember you didn't think laminar hepas come in low static pressure numbers now. Dimple pleat hepas are usually less than 0.5" resistance and are made specifically for laminar flow applications. You can find NOS filters from the 90s with 1.5 or higher for the same purposes
And that is not what you told me about pre assembled filters in your laminar thread. You prolly already editied that to death.
You work for the deep state, dont you? Its cool, you can tell me.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: A.k.a]
#26563456 - 03/28/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Mp tape would be a pain in the ass. And you’ll burn through it doing anything more than really small project.
Can you elaborate?
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: LotKid]
#26563471 - 03/28/20 03:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I want to point out if you’re lazy like me or your knife isn’t sharp a jigsaw with a fine tooth with cut your Saran Wrap fine. Will maybe tear the first few times you use it so I just pull off like 7-8 wrap lengths and it’s fine from there on
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: DeckardCain]
#26563478 - 03/28/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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#reallabsupplies
https://www.amazon.com/MycoSeal-Shrink-Prevents-Hardy-Diagnostics/dp/B073DHQXML
I mean if you want to use what the pro pros use because ya gotta be that way.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta]
#26563481 - 03/28/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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ive turned his Mic off
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: cronicr]
#26563493 - 03/28/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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guys
how long will a culture survive on average before it suffocates if I use saran?
I have a bit too many plates and not enough jars so I moved some of the plates to the fridge. Do you think they'll be ok for 2 weeks?
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you would have to wrap the shit out of it to seal it completely and if it's in the fridge it's not gonna colonize anyway
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The_Brown_Wizard said: guys
how long will a culture survive on average before it suffocates if I use saran?
I have a bit too many plates and not enough jars so I moved some of the plates to the fridge. Do you think they'll be ok for 2 weeks?
More than a couple years. The agar turns to more like fruit leather after that long.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#26563822 - 03/28/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I love Parafilm. Nothing wrong with using cling wrap (or saran short term) tho. I really like bods method of cutting rolls
I have worked out a good workflow for Parafilm, I think I detail it in my agar guide.
Basically I take a 4 inch roll, pull out two lengths about 1.5ft long, stack them on top of another on (3 layers deep) and clamp them on with food clips, then take a scalpel and cut it into 3/4 inch strips (so it makes 3 per cut). Then I have a Little stack of individual premeasured pre cut Parafilm strips ready to go for my next agar sesh
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: c10h12n2o]
#26563828 - 03/28/20 05:51 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah I don't know who's method it is, but after some peeps mentioned Saran I started using it (think it was smartattack) and I have found that my PVC cutter works great to cut it into 2 inch rolls. It's way easier to work with than Parafilm.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Sockadin]
#26563849 - 03/28/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah A plate will for sure dry up before suffocating.
Idk about everybody else but I have a ton of plates and end up wrapping and re wrapping them taking transfers or whatever. So unless you can reuse the same strip of Micropore tape multiple times you’d need a lot.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: A.k.a]
#26564000 - 03/28/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's not new to use cling film. it's probably as old as cling film itself.
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#26564099 - 03/28/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: It's not new to use cling film. it's probably as old as cling film itself.

Cling film having been used for as long as it's been around? That's a theory I think we all can get on board with!
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Re: micropore tape vs saran wrap [Re: Smartattack]
#26564428 - 03/29/20 01:43 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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man.. you guys crack me up.
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I use the 4 inch roll of parafilm and cut it into plate sized strips before my sab session and then bring them in. I’m still using the first roll I ever bought and if I were broke at the time I would have no qualms using Saran Wrap or press n seal or even MP tape. What’s the argument here? Saran is cheaper and probably easier to use in most cases so it may be best advice to offer to a noob, but parafilm is designed to keep out contams and still allows gas exchange. There’s advantages and disadvantages to each and I would think they are equal in the context of sealing petris. Especially considering most of us who do a lot of work only have a plate wrapped for a week max I don’t really understand what’s going on in this thread 😂
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