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r00tcmplx said:
Mind travel is easy and done by tons of people without much effort.
To higher degrees it requires lots of awareness/knowledge/wisdom.

You can't time travel physically. It's essentially impossible with current technology and even science.
You don't 'time travel' in your mind either.. you simply visit banked memory from the past...
and project into the future or focus on the present. Less pseudo/spoopy terms and more reality which is magical in and of itself.

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Visiting banked memory doesn't do it for me soz.

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sudly said:
Look it up nerd.

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You're losing it. Hang in there brosef.

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laughingdog said:
Next you can argue about "astral travel", and about "out of body experiences" in the operating room. But i doubt it will be any more productive of any practical insight.

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sudly said:
Bio-mechanical time machines that don't travel backwards or forwards through time like in the movies (back to the future etc. ). 

But bio-mechanical time machines in the sense of travelling through the accumulated experience of it within ones lifetime.

An old man has been through far more time than a toddler, and had the time to gather experience and become of what he may.


I even want to take a step back from this and hear some constructive criticism on why this is even a far fetched suggestion?
Because to me it's a sensible thing; A bio-mechanical time machine as a descriptor of human beings and their experience of the world outside and within.

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r00tcmplx said:
...While I do lend myself to 'wild ideas' and theories for creative thought. I will never argue them intensely to suggest they are 'real'.. whatever that means. ...

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r00tcmplx said:
...While I do lend myself to 'wild ideas' and theories for creative thought. I will never argue them intensely to suggest they are 'real'.. whatever that means. ...

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exactly

And if Sudly wants to believe he time travels, and doesn't care whether memory is very accurate, or that relieving an experience is more intense than memory, that's his privilege, IMO; even though I see no value in playing with redefining terms.

Like wise with UFO abductees, astral travel, & NDEs, & other "para-normal" effects, I see no value with debating their "reality".
Where as there is scientific evidence for Lucid dreaming, and the yogic heat or tummo, & apparently some experience benefits, from these practices. So yeah I'm open to some 'wild' ideas too.

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Kickle said:
I was laying in bed the other night and something the misses said triggered some pretty whacky memories for me. Things that I experienced that were so bizarre that they simply aren't triggered often by everyday occurrences. But once I remembered them it was quite the experience to relive them in memory. It had a lingering effect for a few hours of feeling just how strange life can be.

I can see how some folks who experience the odd, the bizarre, and the unexplained will want to hold to it as long as possible.

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By association it gives a person a sense of power and 'beyond wordlness'... Same goes for the concept of a belief in God for instance. I belief in (X)... X has lots of power. X is on my side. So, I have more power than say my opponent who I don't believe has (X) behind them.

Sports/war... you name it.


Redbull, it gives you wings



We play these tricks in our minds.. and the trick within the trick is to not be aware of the trick you're playing so as to actually believe and give that belief wings...

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Kickle said:

you may be right at the end there

but have you met anyone who is actually powerful? not just posturing and trying to be? what were they like?

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There are no Gods among men. Absolutely zero.
The are only 24 hours in a day. If you achieve greatness in 'Y' you will lack something proportionately in 'Z'.
Power beyond one's own capability as an individual has to be given and granted to you by another person whom offers your theirs. There is no such thing as a billionaire... No human being is worth that or can work for that and produce that much. What they do instead is convince others to give them money and value beyond their actual worth.

Thus, a person is powerful by proxy by way of their followers or those who made out-sized contributions to them in aggregate. What blind respect thus should I show to a person of power/money? None... As all that is being demonstrated is the folly of their followers in not capturing and keeping their value such that it ended up in another's hands.

So, power.. is all posturing and trying to hide this inconvenient nature.


Beyond power is knowledge and wisdom. I have indeed met people of this stature. They tend to be humble, not so wealthy or powerful because they valued something far greater : knowledge/wisdom.
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> Richard Feynman
comes to mind. There are many others ofc
A quick clip from him on this matter :

People who maintain knowledge/wisdom all tend to say the same thing : Money and power are bullshit and an entrapment.
They all tend to be humble and urge people to be their own guru and leader... They will often declare they're nobodies, just people with ideas who pursued them and pursued knowledge/wisdom. Their content speaks beyond themselves. When I think 'Richard feynman' I think not of the man but of the message/knowledge/wisdom.. The individual doesn't even exist to me, they're a vessel.

I maintain I am just a nomadic cosmic traveler who is less than dirt. It is my own personal mantra.
It keeps me focused on knowledge/wisdom/manifestation and accomplishment.
If I maintain this for myself, i most definitely export it to the world and others.
Thus why I state there are no Gurus/experts. I don't have any idols. I don't 'look up to anyone'. There are people/messages/content I have come across during my journey and I value .. valuable things .. messages/knowledge/wisdom. I move to quickly to center on a specific thing much less a person. I am after something far off in the distance and don't have time to praise someone else or their accomplishments. For some time I've been truly fascinated with people who praise others, idolize them, the celebrity concept... Honors/accolades... I know it to be bullshit, but I wanted to understand what in the world it was that captured others. Once I garnered this understanding (in the brutal way I scrutinize things), I moved on and integrated it into my works/world view.

One of my life's goals is to understand the 'cosmic' game at play. Another I feel impressed upon me is to 'contribute' to that game. In order to do that, I have to take in lots of perspectives and understand them. It's one of the easiest and most efficient ways to achieve them...

Be not that which you are nor see with your eyes, but through the infinite eyes of others.

See what they see.. reason as they do and return to nothingness and in that become everything

So, the guru concept... A powerful person.. They're just mental games and power plays as an earlier user better summarized.