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Taking foil off ASAP right after PC?
    #26460961 - 01/30/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I'm being told to take the jars out of the PC as soon as the pressure is down and to remove the foil so condensation doesn't build up on the inside of the top of the foil and the polyfil so it doesn't get wet and allow for contaminants. Where do you put your jars then in the mean time if they're still this boiling hot and you're supposed to take the foil off?


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26460974 - 01/30/20 08:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I left my foil on a couple weeks ago. I left the foil for a few days. Polyfil was soaked.


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: MoxieSteadman]
    #26460985 - 01/30/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So if I need to take it off as soon as the pressure drops on the PC, where do you keep your jars to cool with the top off? It's still going to be blazing hot.


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26461016 - 01/30/20 08:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I mean is this even the correct thing to do? Where do you put it with the foil off but still boiling hot?


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26461017 - 01/30/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

go for it the foil is only there to stop the pc from raining on your filter while it cools down. it's a filter for a reason what are you worried about?


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: cronicr]
    #26461023 - 01/30/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Because people were telling me if you leave the foil on while it cools down that the condensation on the inside of the foil will make the polyfil wet also and induce contamination. So as soon as the pressure drops on my PC I need to take them out and take the foil off but where do you keep your jars while they’re still boiling hot to cool down?


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26461031 - 01/30/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I put mine on the counter:shrug:


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: cronicr]
    #26461041 - 01/30/20 08:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So it’s fine to keep them out in the open that long with no foil that long? I won’t be inoculating for about another 12 hours.


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26461044 - 01/30/20 09:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

they are gonna be out in the open for up to 3 weeks colonizing ...its why we use filters


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26461048 - 01/30/20 09:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Wet polyfil that just came out of a PC (and thus sterile) isn't going to induce contamination. Moisture will evaporate from it in a few hours.


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: Gralfus]
    #26461049 - 01/30/20 09:06 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

few minutes* they are bone dry very quickly


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: cronicr]
    #26461060 - 01/30/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I thought you usually put the foil back on and incubate it somewhere safe. So the still air box is only used for inoculation and everything else is open air?


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26461064 - 01/30/20 09:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

yep they just chill on a shelf


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: cronicr]
    #26461081 - 01/30/20 09:29 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Okay, I thought all the steps with the jars had to be out of open air. I thought just having it out in the open chilling like that you could get contaminated or bacteria.

So can you inoculate open air also then as long as you have good technique and have no fans blowing or anything?


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: Gralfus]
    #26461090 - 01/30/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So really I can just leave it in my PC then for next 12 hours until I inoculate them? People were telling me not to and to take it out as soon as it’s done.


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26461094 - 01/30/20 09:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

don't inoculate in open air it takes five minutes to make a sab.
And leaving them in the pc is ok but it will rain down moisture as it cools


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26461170 - 01/30/20 10:34 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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So really I can just leave it in my PC then for next 12 hours until I inoculate them? People were telling me not to and to take it out as soon as it’s done.



What people where?
Fucking leave them in there it's fine.
I like to open the lid after letting the PC cool for awhile. Then I take the jars out and shake them before returning to the PC. After returning to the PC I put the lid back on but dont twist the lid tight(for the sake of the seal). Next day once my hangover wears off I'll roll out of bed grab a shower and some coffee then get to inoculating.


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: gizmo1]
    #26461263 - 01/30/20 11:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah stop over thinking shit fam just get to work already


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: cronicr]
    #26461280 - 01/30/20 11:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Read instead of making a new thread for every question you encounter.


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26461495 - 01/31/20 04:52 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Okay, I thought all the steps with the jars had to be out of open air. I thought just having it out in the open chilling like that you could get contaminated or bacteria.

So can you inoculate open air also then as long as you have good technique and have no fans blowing or anything?



You do know the filters actually serve a purpose right?

I don't even use foil anymore at all period with polyfil lids in the cooker or out.


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26461538 - 01/31/20 05:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I was worried about leaving them out because I won’t be able to inoculate until I get back from work later tonight. I did what everyone told me though, I took them out the PC this morning and took the foil off and have them set out in the open on my coffee table.


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26461545 - 01/31/20 05:45 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: Mr Solo Dolo]
    #26461583 - 01/31/20 06:14 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Does leaving the foil on until just before you A2G or G2G not help keep the lid and rim PC clean until ready to use?

That was my thought. Also reason for leaving jars in the PC until ready to load the SAB.

I'm not using polyfil tho... but SFDs similarly should avoid getting wet I think I've read?


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: susurrador]
    #26461695 - 01/31/20 07:47 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Does leaving the foil on until just before you A2G or G2G not help keep the lid and rim PC clean until ready to use?

That was my thought. Also reason for leaving jars in the PC until ready to load the SAB.

I'm not using polyfil tho... but SFDs similarly should avoid getting wet I think I've read?




This is how I play it. I use unmodified plastic lids, with a square of foil on top for a cover. I wait til the PC is completely cool, open next to the sab, jars go into sab. Remove foil, drop agar wedge, repeat.


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: susurrador]
    #26461731 - 01/31/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So that’s what I thought but people on another thread were telling me I need to take them out as soon as they’re done and to take the foil off.


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Re: Taking foil off ASAP right after PC? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26461759 - 01/31/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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You do know the filters actually serve a purpose right?

I don't even use foil anymore at all period with polyfil lids in the cooker or out.




If it's unnecessary, I'd gladly not waste the stuff! Does this hold true for lids with SFDs and silicon also?


Edit: Found this

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24089444#24089444

Nuff said.

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