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Lots of moisture between liner and tub during colonizing in tubs. Problem?
    #26460906 - 01/30/20 07:39 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

About 3 days since spawning. No pooling (yet). Will this cause problems? I know FAE will help but I don’t want to introduce FAE until fully colonized.


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Re: Lots of moisture between liner and tub during colonizing in tubs. Problem? [Re: slimeysnail]
    #26460942 - 01/30/20 07:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It never caused an issue for a friend of mine, just give it time until you give it FAE to decide what to do. Is the ambient temperature near the tub too warm? Maybe tinker with the temperature to reduce some evaporation, if you feel up to it. If it pools by the time you're ready to FAE then in the process of doing so, use some clean paper towels for the pools and it should be fine. Might want to disinfect with H2O2 and wipe remove the moisture from that. Just a suggestion. If humidity is too little while fruiting, just use a fine mist spray of clean sterile water from a good distance away onto the walls of the tub. Hope your project goes well!


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Re: Lots of moisture between liner and tub during colonizing in tubs. Problem? [Re: PsychonautsDreams]
    #26460954 - 01/30/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Hydrogen peroxide doesnt really do anything for growin.

Next time try tampin your sub down some around the edges(but keep it level) and it shouldnt separate from the walls that much

And lots of people introduce to "fruiting conditions" at spawn. Alot of time as long as its clean knocking a couple days or so off till harvest


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Re: Lots of moisture between liner and tub during colonizing in tubs. Problem? [Re: PsychonautsDreams]
    #26460963 - 01/30/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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It never caused an issue for a friend of mine, just give it time until you give it FAE to decide what to do. Is the ambient temperature near the tub too warm? Maybe tinker with the temperature to reduce some evaporation, if you feel up to it. If it pools by the time you're ready to FAE then in the process of doing so, use some clean paper towels for the pools and it should be fine. Might want to disinfect with H2O2 and wipe remove the moisture from that. Just a suggestion. If humidity is too little while fruiting, just use a fine mist spray of clean sterile water from a good distance away onto the walls of the tub. Hope your project goes well!




The temp stays at 73°F for colonization and 70°F for fruiting. I have a couple tubs with shoeboxes in them and they don’t have this going on, must just be the difference in a amount of substrates. Thanks for your input. I’ll keep an eye on it.


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Re: Lots of moisture between liner and tub during colonizing in tubs. Problem? [Re: Cootermonkey]
    #26460966 - 01/30/20 08:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Hydrogen peroxide doesnt really do anything for growin.

Next time try tampin your sub down some around the edges(but keep it level) and it shouldnt separate from the walls that much

And lots of people introduce to "fruiting conditions" at spawn. Alot of time as long as its clean knocking a couple days or so off till harvest




I lost two tubs to trich my last grow so i’m really paranoid about fruiting too early & upping my chances of contam :/ You think this will mess things up?


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Re: Lots of moisture between liner and tub during colonizing in tubs. Problem? [Re: Cootermonkey]
    #26460979 - 01/30/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

That's true, the idea of H2O2 was merely to disinfect a minority of contaminants whilst removing the pools. Could be an act of over precaution, but all the time and work that's gone into it it's better to play it safe.


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Re: Lots of moisture between liner and tub during colonizing in tubs. Problem? [Re: slimeysnail]
    #26460984 - 01/30/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I used to have this same problem. Oddly enough i was also having a trich problem at the time. I tried early fruiting conditions which helped eliminate some excess humidity condensing on the side and getting lost under the liner. Eventually I solved all my problems by ditching the liner altogether. Any moisture would get reabsorbed.


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Re: Lots of moisture between liner and tub during colonizing in tubs. Problem? [Re: Cootermonkey]
    #26460992 - 01/30/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Hydrogen peroxide doesnt really do anything for growin.

Next time try tampin your sub down some around the edges(but keep it level) and it shouldnt separate from the walls that much

And lots of people introduce to "fruiting conditions" at spawn. Alot of time as long as its clean knocking a couple days or so off till harvest




The taping idea is precisely needed and making sure the bag level is level is key. Trim the bag after you get all of your substrate and spawn mixed, tape the edges all the way around at levels that allow good FAE still. If it pools, the suggestion of a clean paper towel to dabble on it should be just fine.


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Re: Lots of moisture between liner and tub during colonizing in tubs. Problem? [Re: PsychonautsDreams]
    #26461000 - 01/30/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Cootermonkey said:
Hydrogen peroxide doesnt really do anything for growin.

Next time try tampin your sub down some around the edges(but keep it level) and it shouldnt separate from the walls that much

And lots of people introduce to "fruiting conditions" at spawn. Alot of time as long as its clean knocking a couple days or so off till harvest




The taping idea is precisely needed and making sure the bag level is level is key. Trim the bag after you get all of your substrate and spawn mixed, tape the edges all the way around at levels that allow good FAE still. If it pools, the suggestion of a clean paper towel to dabble on it should be just fine.




Thanks. If and when, do you mean get in between the tub and liner and dab it out or only if it pools on the sub?


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Re: Lots of moisture between liner and tub during colonizing in tubs. Problem? [Re: slimeysnail]
    #26461018 - 01/30/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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About 3 days since spawning. No pooling (yet). Will this cause problems? I know FAE will help but I don’t want to introduce FAE until fully colonized.




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Re: Lots of moisture between liner and tub during colonizing in tubs. Problem? [Re: slimeysnail]
    #26461019 - 01/30/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Also is putting a tub straight into fruiting really that bad.. I’ve read a lot of mixed thoughts but never done it. My first grow I stuffed the 6 holes in my monotubs heavily with polyfill, and covered with a blanket during colonization. I didn’t know the FAE was a pinning trigger, but the tubs turned out great. I’m just scarred from contams that occurred on later tubs :frown: I’ve had a streak of bad luck, just seeming to get things down again. Here are a couple 4qt shoeboxes I have going, both fruited after 5 days of colonization.





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Re: Lots of moisture between liner and tub during colonizing in tubs. Problem? [Re: slimeysnail]
    #26461027 - 01/30/20 08:52 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

fae is only a pinning trigger AFTER full colonization, but mycelium eats more with fae so u can get faster colonizing with fruiting at spawn but some get fuller flushes introducing all the pinning triggers at the same time, but monotubs tend to have high co2 levels regardless of either method simply because they are wall to wall substrate so you won't notice much of a difference in your flushes compared to something like a tray in a Martha that gets more air


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Re: Lots of moisture between liner and tub during colonizing in tubs. Problem? [Re: cronicr]
    #26461067 - 01/30/20 09:21 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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About 3 days since spawning. No pooling (yet). Will this cause problems? I know FAE will help but I don’t want to introduce FAE until fully colonized.




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