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First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED Tek Aborts seemingly out of nowhere
#26460792 - 01/30/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Last day most of my pins decided to abort this makes me very sad. Do you think this is due to over misting and FAE? I thought you were supposed to mist when dry. I also thought unmodified Tek delt with fae.
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26460794 - 01/30/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pictures will help with answers.
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: Sockadin]
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26460815 - 01/30/20 06:57 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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There is also little fuzzy mycelium at the bottom of some mushrooms if that's any indication
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26460819 - 01/30/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think it looks too dry, like low humidity/too much fae. There isn'tas much condensation on the sides as I think there should be, but I have no experience so maybe wait for someone else
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: One of Us]
#26460861 - 01/30/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thank you for your reply, I normally mist them twice a day I doubt it could be lack of water. It could be everything else you mentioned.
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26460909 - 01/30/20 07:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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With the unmodified tek there is no need to mist until after the first flush If the coir has the right amount of water added when making it. I use this tek and has been working great for me. I also at a thin casing layer on top when making my tubs with straight coir. Hope this helps
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26460912 - 01/30/20 07:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wouldn’t mist anymore once tt’s pinning maybe try just a syringe etc and add water to the sub where the sides of the substrate and the monotub meet. Possibly increase fae a little hence the fuzzy looking feet. But I’m still so new don’t take my word for it. Maybe a light top layer/casing next time!
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26460932 - 01/30/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well misting too much could be the problem, its a fairly common one, and the condensation on the sides doesnt really mean anything. Its all about the surface conditions, misting isnt for watering or hydrating the sub just makin proper surface conditions(little beads of water that evaporate relatively quickly) evaporation is the biggest pinning trigger.
Condensation on the walls is made by a temperature differential between the tub and the outside of the tub. When you make the sub it should hold plenty of water in it to make it to at least the first flush with maybe misting once or twice.
Misting pins (can) cause them to abort
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: Cootermonkey]
#26461033 - 01/30/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Okay, I will stop misting them. Do you think they have enough fae with the lid upside down?
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26461042 - 01/30/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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misting doesn't cause aborts with cubensis . I also don't see them being aborts they are half way to maturity
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: cronicr]
#26461705 - 01/31/20 07:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I always see mixed signals about this, misting seems to help them for me up until this point.
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26461713 - 01/31/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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This seems reasonable to me what do you guys think? https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053
But if it's not misting my aborts are still unexplained.
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26464947 - 02/02/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Still having a lot of trouble, does anyone have answers?
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26464973 - 02/02/20 09:49 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Need more pictures to really tell what is going on. Probably just genetics at this point.
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: Sockadin]
#26464995 - 02/02/20 10:00 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Okay I will take some more of each tub that I have.
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26465006 - 02/02/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Here for curiosity
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: Jooby]
#26465028 - 02/02/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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First monotub(this is the that is pictured above) - First spawned, had really good growth that was a little slow and then stopped. I picked a lot of the aborts yesterday when I was upset about it. I probably shouldn't have. They all looked healthy and then aborted the next night.



 I have more photos coming of the other tubs. This tub and all of the mushrooms and sub within looked much happier and healthier a four days ago.
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: Sockadin]
#26465029 - 02/02/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pictures have been posted of the first tub. This is also right after a misting if it looks a little wettt
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26465032 - 02/02/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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re-post
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26465035 - 02/02/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is the second tub I have going, it was spawned a few days after the first tub. Looks pretty healthy to me but the growth on the fruits seems to be a little slow compared to average.

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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26465039 - 02/02/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm very new so...are you by chance misting straight to the tub, or misting over, to allow mist to fall? I've read, if you point mist at pins they can abort.
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26465042 - 02/02/20 10:28 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Here is the third and fourth tub I have going, all with the same genetics but spawned a week later. The cracks are from me accidentally holding them from the bottom. I also have a fifth tub going with different genetics but he is still colonizing.

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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: Jooby]
#26465046 - 02/02/20 10:30 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is also what I have heard, but I am not misting them directly I do it very lightly and let the mist fall from the air onto the sub. I do not do enough to let it puddle I just do enough so it looks healthy. Just about four squirts. I have followed bods tek to the tee and have read it about 15 times now to check for errors in my ways.
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26465052 - 02/02/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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How important is humidity with BODS UNMODIFIED TEK? I almost feel like I am not providing enough humidity to them.
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26465053 - 02/02/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Maybe stop misting if your sub is that dry try wetting the edges/ use a syringe etc? I’m still pretty new to this just my 2 cents
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The reason I started misting was because I got a lot of side pins in the beginning. When looking at the side pins I noticed that the reason they were pinning is because it was wet down there and my sub was dry. So as soon as I started misting I got just as many pins on the top as I did on the side. I believe misting is important. Thank you for your input.
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26465061 - 02/02/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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bigAPE said: This is also what I have heard, but I am not misting them directly I do it very lightly and let the mist fall from the air onto the sub. I do not do enough to let it puddle I just do enough so it looks healthy. Just about four squirts. I have followed bods tek to the tee and have read it about 15 times now to check for errors in my ways.
humidity numbers inside your tub, from what I've read and understand, dont mean much and seem to overcomplicate. It's the surface conditions that are important. That being said, surface conditions are the toughest part of this whole hobby, for me, so far.
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26465064 - 02/02/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Gotcha.... well is your sub at field capacity ?maybe try having it a little wetter or a casing/pseudo casing to help surface conditions and to avoid the misting?
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This is what I was thinking, I am going have to do some casing research.
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: Jooby]
#26465070 - 02/02/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is also what I have read. I am having a lot of trouble with surface conditions it seems. Thanks for your input.
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What do you mean by field capacity?
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26465077 - 02/02/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Those tubs look contaminated and that's probably the reason for so many pins and also shit performance
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#26465088 - 02/02/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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All four? What measures can be taken to prevent contamination in tubs? The spawn was good. I read from one of your guides how tough coir was.
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26465094 - 02/02/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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The second tub was contaminated from the beginning, the first was was just recently contaminated.
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Re: First monotub BODS UNMODIFIED TEK [Re: bigAPE]
#26465099 - 02/02/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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It was from bad spawn Sometimes the problem develops fast sometimes it takes a bit to show
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