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Dispelling the myth of the slow metabolism * 1
    #26460487 - 01/30/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

https://examine.com/nutrition/is-my-slow-metabolism-stalling-my-weight-loss/



Although people can have a fast or slow metabolism, extremes are pretty rare, often resulting from disease or prior obesity. Around 96% of people stay within 200–300 kcal of the average metabolism. Moreover, resting metabolic rates (RMRs) are not well correlated with weight gain.





Contrary to popular belief, obesity is associated with a high metabolic rate[7], as a heavier body needs more energy to do just about everything, from running down to breathing. However, people who slash down calories to lose a lot of weight very fast risk slowing their metabolism to below its “natural” level — maybe permanently. They feel hungry all the time, as their body fights to recover the energy stores (mostly, the fat) it lost too fast.









Aerobic activities and anaerobic activities affect your RMR differently. Aerobic activities tend to burn more calories during exercise, but not a lot afterward (low EPOC). Anaerobic activities, on the other hand, can stoke your furnace for hours after you stopped exercising (high EPOC).[18] In addition, anaerobic activities are better for building muscle, which requires additional energy.[19]



But what happens after you’ve reached a plateau and your muscle mass stops increasing? Do your muscles now require only maintenance levels of energy (13 kcal/kg/day, as we’ve seen), even if you exercise daily? No, they need more, because each time you exercise you damage them and must expend energy to repair them. This still counts as “muscle maintenance” (muscles get constantly destroyed and rebuilt even in sedentary people), but the caloric cost is much higher.


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Re: Dispelling the myth of the slow metabolism [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26460491 - 01/30/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Interesting.
But it doesn’t explain why I eat like a pig and look like a stick figure lol:unwanted:


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Re: Dispelling the myth of the slow metabolism [Re: feldman114]
    #26460506 - 01/30/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Interesting.
But it doesn’t explain why I eat like a pig and look like a stick figure lol:unwanted:



A common thread among the obese is that they eat like pigs but dont seem to be aware of it. Most people who say they eat like pigs are actually a lot more cognizant of their eating habits than those who do not reminisce at all about their habits.

Are you a young man? You have some muscle? If so you can get away with eating a lot. I can. But so could almost any other man my age (30).

They're not saying that there's not massive differences in the amount of calories people can eat without gaining weight. They're saying that those differences are mostly attributable to things we all have in common like lean body mass, rather than hormone levels


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Re: Dispelling the myth of the slow metabolism [Re: morrowasted]
    #26460659 - 01/30/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

thank you for posting this. I always suspwcted this was a garbage excuse.

the only excuse more sad than someone with no diagnosis or knowledge of physiology blaming their weight on their metabolic rate is saying you are big boned. idk how anyone even let those words out of their mouth. bones dont jiggle dude.


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Re: Dispelling the myth of the slow metabolism [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26461247 - 01/30/20 11:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Presumably one could also state that consuming 2500 Calories of refined sugars... is handled by the body much differently than 2500 Calories of vegetables/fruits/legumes.

Also, a consideration; the usage of energy by the brain may or may not vary considerably between individuals, and is already on average approx 20% of the BMR

I've also noticed many people have no clue how much they really move in a day - and can easily be anywhere from 1-2 up to 8+ miles with fairly average routines, depending on what work/school/transportation looks like.


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Re: Dispelling the myth of the slow metabolism [Re: twighead]
    #26461254 - 01/30/20 11:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Thats interesting cuz im 36 and getting fatter and fatter i dont always eat healthy hell i work at a pizza place again mmm.    But i noticed i use to eat alot more and was skinny in my 20s it seems like some slowdown. Then again i work hard labor and have gotten alot more muscle i am not weak and that may be why i am gaining more weight so maybe its just. A size thing and i have heard froma couple ex body builders when u dont work out all the time u still eat alot and get fat.


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Re: Dispelling the myth of the slow metabolism [Re: lighthouse09]
    #26461409 - 01/31/20 02:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

That’s insane I can’t believe 96% of people have around the same metabolism that can’t be true. I remember I plugged my genes into Prometheus and it told me I had some gene forget the number “any diet works for you” and it said that was 12% of the population.


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Re: Dispelling the myth of the slow metabolism [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #26461558 - 01/31/20 05:59 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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That’s insane I can’t believe 96% of people have around the same metabolism that can’t be true. I remember I plugged my genes into Prometheus and it told me I had some gene forget the number “any diet works for you” and it said that was 12% of the population.



What it means to say they have the "same metabolism" is to say they have the same metabolism for their demographic.

It's not saying a 100lb 80 year old woman can consume within 200kcal of what a 20 year old 160lb man can consume without gaining weight. it's saying that that 80 year old woman can consume within 200kcal of what other people in her demographic are eating without gaining weight.

she can only year 1100-1300kcal a day, most likely.


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Re: Dispelling the myth of the slow metabolism [Re: twighead]
    #26461559 - 01/31/20 06:00 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Presumably one could also state that consuming 2500 Calories of refined sugars... is handled by the body much differently than 2500 Calories of vegetables/fruits/legumes.

Also, a consideration; the usage of energy by the brain may or may not vary considerably between individuals, and is already on average approx 20% of the BMR

I've also noticed many people have no clue how much they really move in a day - and can easily be anywhere from 1-2 up to 8+ miles with fairly average routines, depending on what work/school/transportation looks like.



Definitely. Recent studies show that increasing fiber on an isocaloric diet improves weight loss, esp. abdominal fat


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