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Millet has expanded considerably, what to do?
    #26459622 - 01/30/20 05:36 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

So after prepping my millet last, I filled my jars 3/4 full and did a PC cycle. My plan is to inoculate them today after work. However, when I looked this morning the millet has expanded almost all the way to the top just beneath the polyfil. What am I supposed to do with this when it comes to the shake? I knew grains would expand, but I didn’t anticipate it all the way to the top because I filled them 3/4 full. There is barely any room between the polyfil and grain now. Should I throw these out and start again? Or still proceed with inoculating? I’m just worried what I’m supposed to do when it comes to shaking to speed up the colonization? It’s raised all the way up just beneath the polyfil. I’m feeling pretty pissed right now and tempted to just throw them away...

Also, there are some burst grains at the bottom, not a whole lot, but I don’t know if that is another reason I should just throw these jars away...


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26459702 - 01/30/20 06:50 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Do a reverse grain2grain. Put a little of each jar into an empty.


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: LadysKnight]
    #26459728 - 01/30/20 07:11 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Pics?


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: LadysKnight]
    #26459729 - 01/30/20 07:15 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

I don’t have a flow hood. Open my sterilized jars to the air??? And put some of each jar into another before inoculating?


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: mushboy]
    #26459740 - 01/30/20 07:23 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

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mushboy said:
Pics?



:whathesaid:

how are you planning to inoculate


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: Camera93]
    #26459794 - 01/30/20 08:06 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

By spore syringe. Will post pictures after I get back from work.


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26459823 - 01/30/20 08:37 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Make a still air box, and with that type of expansion you should use a spore print or a LITERAL drop of spore solution. I hope it doesn’t tam put on ya :/


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26459856 - 01/30/20 08:57 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

White or red millet? Red expands just a tiny bit and only if you don’t dry it off properly after soaking/simmering.


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: feldman114]
    #26460067 - 01/30/20 11:30 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

It is white millet. I don’t know why it expanded so much.


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26460083 - 01/30/20 11:36 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Suggestions? Or throw them away and try another grain? I was originally going to do rye.

I don’t understand what happened, I know grains expand, but I filled it 3/4 full, so if it was to expand I didn’t think that much. Is that normal?


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26460099 - 01/30/20 11:47 AM (4 years, 18 days ago)

You got a solution though.
You need SAB practice anyway. Just pour out a little from each jar. Easier than g2g


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: feldman114]
    #26460117 - 01/30/20 12:01 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Pour a little out of each in the SAB. Next time only fill millet jars 1/2 full.


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: AyePlus]
    #26460230 - 01/30/20 01:02 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

pour some out, if your worried about contams bring the jars up to pressure for another  half hour( u won't need a whole 90 minutes to kill surface molds)


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: cronicr]
    #26460277 - 01/30/20 01:38 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

So after pouring out should I wipe the rim and lids with alcohol? Is it okay to still use the same lids and polyfil? Or I need to change everything? I will post pictures soon. Do you think that I need to do all this? There’s no way of things working out for me without having to do all this?


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: AyePlus]
    #26460285 - 01/30/20 01:41 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

And does millet usually tend to expand that much?


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26460299 - 01/30/20 01:48 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

Don’t wipe or replace sterile surfaces (anything on the inside of a jar + the rims).

Once you’re situated in the SAB, wipe down the jars. Open them, one by one, and tilt until enough grain falls out. The key is swift movements, while keeping the jar open for the least amount of time. Aim for a 2 second maximum.
Oh, and make sure nothing is directly above the jar when it’s open, including your hands, the lid, and everything else.


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26460305 - 01/30/20 01:49 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

if the jars are to full you won't be able to shake them and it may take an extra week to finish or more.
If you dump th grain out in a sab and just want to use them that's fine to just dump it out and quickly tighten the lid again.
If your gonna pc again no need to change anything just make another couple jars so u can dump the excess in those and have more jars.
Yes millet expands , I prep my grain before I load jars so I don't have this issue


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: cronicr]
    #26460329 - 01/30/20 01:59 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

I’m thinking maybe I should just start over since I have some more millet and dump what I have. How do you prep your millet? I prepped mine also before I loaded, but I did not know that millet expands this much. What do you do to prep your millet?


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26460336 - 01/30/20 02:03 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

don't need to start over, u have perfectly good grain there just dump a bit out and pc again.
millet I just rinse in a five gallon bucket and dump boiling water on it and close the lid, repeat after an hour ( drain and add fresh water) and after another hour it's ready to dry n load


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Re: Millet has expanded considerably, what to do? [Re: cronicr]
    #26460385 - 01/30/20 02:31 PM (4 years, 18 days ago)

My SAB isn't completely done yet, I was going to finish it up today, but now I have this to go back and do. So you're saying I can open it in open air and take out the excess and then PC again for 90 minutes? Is it also normal to have burst grains on the bottom?


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