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What do you consider to be the spiritual significance of disease?
    #26456999 - 01/28/20 02:53 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

My Spirit Guide had this rather sobering message regarding the Wuhan Coronavirus:

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Something had to happen. The havoc mankind wreaks outward had to return back inward. A nuclear holocaust would have greatly increased the burden upon the ecosystem. It would have to be something that directly affects mankind, directly reduces its destructive process and with it, ease the burden on the environment. That something, is Coronavirus 2019-nCoV, a century after the Spanish Flu.

Forget everything you had planned. This will take priority fast over anything you had planned. Humanity is entering a crisis period. Expect this northern hemisphere winter to be the winter of the Great Pandemic.

China has a large diaspora. Chinese wil scramble towards their relatives abroad and will be infectious during the asymptomatic period. For the death toll of the pandemic, there could be no worse point of origin than China.

Mouth masks. Gloves. Desinfectant. Essential foods to be able to camp out at home when infection is sweeping the streets. Expect it to reach your town and prepare accordingly. Water, electricity, society will not break down but it will be advantageous to make preparations to withdraw from it, to have protective means for mingling and have cough lozenges and OTC medications for the airways, against allergy and aspirins capable of suppressing high fevers in case disease strikes the home.

Expect this disease to become a very big deal, fast. Expect mutations to occur in the months until vaccines become available.

Something big had to happen to drive humanity back into each other's arms.

2019-nCoV is part of this process, the perfect storm to turn the tide on humanity's destructive path. Humbled, the survivors will mend their ways.

As much as I like to get you on your hind legs, I'm afraid this is not a drill. This is the literal crisis I had you prepare for through all my metaphorical scenarios.

Deal with it.





Disease as obstacles in the path for humanity to overcome, and to "drive them into each others arms" ie to unify humanity through an external adversity.

It sounds eerily plausible.


Where do you, from your philosophy, stand?


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Re: What do you consider to be the spiritual significance of disease? [Re: Asante] * 2
    #26457155 - 01/28/20 04:10 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Just been having this exact conversation elsewhere. Seems like it's definitely a wake up call, as all adversity is. Civilisation seems to be at breaking point and something has got to give, to create some forward motion. I believe there's nothing in this world that is ultimately not for our benefit, although it's sometimes hard to understand that. I think we have to try and see the bigger picture beyond our 80 years on this rock. Having said that, it breaks my heart to see people suffering, ever. But it seems we can only awaken to the illusory nature of suffering, through suffering :heart:


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Re: What do you consider to be the spiritual significance of disease? [Re: PocketLady]
    #26457166 - 01/28/20 04:14 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Death, old-age, and sickness is the truth to the existence of things, and consequently, indicative of suffering.

SABBAM DUKKHAM.


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Re: What do you consider to be the spiritual significance of disease? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26458302 - 01/29/20 10:09 AM (4 years, 9 hours ago)

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Asante said:
Disease as obstacles in the path for humanity to overcome, and to "drive them into each others arms" ie to unify humanity through an external adversity.

It sounds eerily plausible.


Where do you, from your philosophy, stand?




That.  Exactly.  I believe sometimes it takes being broken, if you will, to change our attitude about life. 

It took my lyme disease getting to the point where I was so depressed I was almost suicidal for something to finally snap, in my head, and make me realize there had to be a better way.

There was, and in the last year I've made more positive change in my attitude about life than the previous 37.

I've thought about it and am eternally THANKFUL for that disease.  It still affects me and sometimes makes things difficult, but life is only as difficult as you allow it to be...

- it taught me to stop being a victim
- it taught me not to judge, as you never know what someone is going through
- it taught me to stop resisting all my life lessons and the value of humillity
- it taught me the power of the mind to heal

and a lot more


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Re: What do you consider to be the spiritual significance of disease? [Re: Forrester]
    #26458333 - 01/29/20 10:38 AM (4 years, 8 hours ago)

Things needing to be broken to get better is exactly WHY things happen in cycles....things have to get bad enough for enough people to come together to fix things there has to be that tipping point......it can happen personally i have been broken many times each time i learned from it. disease is one thing that will bring people together because it doesn't care if your white or black catholic or jew when things effect people equally we come together equally. just as if a alien mother ship showed up to rain down terror on the earth all countries would come together.

My personal worry for the future is with climate we are destroying our planet! alot of people are starting to wake up to this i hope it doesnt have to get much worse for that tipping point to happen


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Re: What do you consider to be the spiritual significance of disease? [Re: dbreeze]
    #26458458 - 01/29/20 12:23 PM (4 years, 7 hours ago)

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Things needing to be broken to get better is exactly WHY things happen in cycles....things have to get bad enough for enough people to come together to fix things there has to be that tipping point......it can happen personally i have been broken many times each time i learned from it. disease is one thing that will bring people together because it doesn't care if your white or black catholic or jew when things effect people equally we come together equally. just as if a alien mother ship showed up to rain down terror on the earth all countries would come together.

My personal worry for the future is with climate we are destroying our planet! alot of people are starting to wake up to this i hope it doesnt have to get much worse for that tipping point to happen




Great read. By it I really do feel its by nature finding its balance.
Whether intrapersonal, extrapersonal etc.. trials teacheth great lessons.

Just like how a Plant hardens having an exposure to winds or pest for a SAR(Systemic acquired resistance) and bears fruit and hardened seeds later in life..
Same for US under the exposure of inner and external trials in life.
by nature/universe/God towards a brighter future of compassion & unity to immunity.

A next race back to its Ape - roots towards organic/flesh away from inorganic/stoned hearts
An era that cares for our MOTHER as she cares for US.

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I don't see man's future as terribly bright, but I do hold the hope that this species squeaks into the terminus marking the end of one phase of history and the beginning of the next. God will have to be very much with us if this is to come about, perhaps. Disaster lurks everywhere.




I kinda feel the same. Its a huge bump at end of terminus towards the new age. And according the manuscripts whether in case of a disaster or not, with the help of a "Divine Hands" it will be short live like a thunder & a twink of an eye.

the new age will be towards quantum communication/connection. Whether it relies on technological advancement or not, communication/real time interaction(love & compassion) is a must. The next era will focus on the healing of the earth and deinduatrialization after the dark huge quick Bump, Eg. reforestation for food without the use of synthesize chemicals. the next era is about refinement of our ways. a merge of learned tech & TEKs together with our primitive ways of getting things done.




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Re: What do you consider to be the spiritual significance of disease? [Re: Asante]
    #26458685 - 01/29/20 03:17 PM (4 years, 4 hours ago)

- no this is not a big deal 770000 people died of HIV/AIDs alone in 2019

- your spirit guide seems to be a mind level guide, you need to go higher Asante


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Re: What do you consider to be the spiritual significance of disease? [Re: Asante]
    #26458690 - 01/29/20 03:20 PM (4 years, 4 hours ago)

The real issue is that there are too many viruses, remember what a virus is after all - it is a physical manifestation of a vital illness, it is only when it materialises that the science detects it, but in the subtle physical body - gets hit first....


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Re: What do you consider to be the spiritual significance of disease? [Re: Asante]
    #26458722 - 01/29/20 03:42 PM (4 years, 3 hours ago)

I feel that viral and bacteriological diseases only exist for biological purposes, but that they can affect us spiritually. Naturally, when we are sick, it affects our spirit severely, if not our soul. Mental illnesses are a little different, but recall that these attack the brain, and are thus still essentially biological. Mental illness can cause latent visionary experiences, but this is more a side effect of the brain's trauma.

In the end, diseases are more on the material plane than the spiritual, at least for me. But as I have said, they can affect the spiritual side of things. But probably not determine them.


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Re: What do you consider to be the spiritual significance of disease? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #26458839 - 01/29/20 05:37 PM (4 years, 1 hour ago)

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In the end, diseases are more on the material plane than the spiritual, at least for me. But as I have said, they can affect the spiritual side of things. But probably not determine them.




Very true, they certainly lie in the realm of physical (effect) rather than mind/spirit (cause)...  but they have the potential to affect great change, especially if one stops to ask why they have chosen such a state!


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Re: What do you consider to be the spiritual significance of disease? [Re: Forrester]
    #26460179 - 01/30/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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In the end, diseases are more on the material plane than the spiritual, at least for me. But as I have said, they can affect the spiritual side of things. But probably not determine them.




Very true, they certainly lie in the realm of physical (effect) rather than mind/spirit (cause)...  but they have the potential to affect great change, especially if one stops to ask why they have chosen such a state!





you seem to categorise 'mind/spirit' together, like somehow mind and spirit are the same...

have a look at this article:

CNN:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/30/health/flu-deadly-virus-15-million-infected-trnd/index.html


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The Centers for Disease Control predicts at least 12,000 people will die from the flu in the US every year. In the 2017-2018 flu season, as many as 61,000 people died




This coronavirus is just a western media propaganda


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Re: What do you consider to be the spiritual significance of disease? [Re: banquet]
    #26461120 - 01/30/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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you seem to categorise 'mind/spirit' together, like somehow mind and spirit are the same...




Ah yes, I do.  I guess that would require a lot of explanation and I don't wanna derail the thread, in short it's a Course in miracles belief.  Understand I mean the mind, not the brain.

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This coronavirus is just a western media propaganda




Wouldn't surprise me at all.  Anything to keep the fear level up.  Look at anything reported in mainstream media and if it's not vapid celebrity nonsense it's probably something "you should" be afraid of :rolleyes:


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