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Re: Rapist Dies in Helicopter Crash [Re: feldman114] 1
#26455358 - 01/27/20 02:43 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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That's enough this is a MEMORIAL thread. You're clearly flaming everyone trying to mourn and doing things like going in and editing the Original posters MEMORIAL thread as "Rapist dies in a helicopter crash" is unacceptable here. If you don't have good things to say in this memorial thread for mourning get the fuck out stop breaking site rules and flaming and shame on Koods for participating in this. It's unbearably sanctimonious, condescending and you're just using this man's AND his daughter and 7 other people's deaths to sound woke which is just fucking sickening
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lol, I hadn’t noticed the title..
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Re: Rapist Dies in Helicopter Crash [Re: Amanita86]
#26455387 - 01/27/20 02:59 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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Should have made it “non-consensual fornicator”
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Re: There, I changed the title for you. [Re: feldman114]
#26455392 - 01/27/20 03:00 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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Thanks you're welcome.
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Seriously_trippin said: just fucking sickening
Sort of like rape?
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Re: Rapist Dies in Helicopter Crash [Re: chibiabos]
#26455403 - 01/27/20 03:06 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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What if your best most honorable friend or parent just died and you just begun grieving and someone walks in the room and reveals some rape charges that friend/parent had that you didn't know about, would you stop crying and reminiscing their life right there?
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Re: Rapist Dies in Helicopter Crash [Re: feldman114]
#26455405 - 01/27/20 03:06 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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feldman114 said: Should have made it “non-consensual fornicator”
How about you don't change the Original posters clear MEMORIAL thread tribute to a tasteless joke to sound woke.
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Re: Rapist Dies in Helicopter Crash [Re: feldman114] 1
#26455407 - 01/27/20 03:09 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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feldman114 said: Still stuck on the H bomb? Only reason I brought up Hitler and Weinstein is cause someone cited Kobe’s charitable donations as an excuse for the Alleged (happy?) rape.
Maybe you misunderstood, or I wasn't clear, but by no means was I "excusing rape" because he donated a lot of money to charities.
That incident in Colorado is still cloudy. Maybe he did rape her. Maybe he didn't. The only two that will know the truth is him and his accuser. All we know from afar is she said he did it. He said it was consensual. He did settle out of court, and to some that's an admission of guilt. Fair enough. But we also know celebrities with enormous bank accounts have more than once in the past settled just to hurry the entire thing to an end.
For me personally it's not clear enough, not beyond a reasonable doubt anyway, that he raped her. Not for me to judge anyway. All I know is the case was ultimately dismissed.
You, I, or anyone else here knows beyond a reasonable doubt what happened that night. If he did it though -- then yes, that's an awful crime. Obviously.
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trees said: What if your best most honorable friend or parent just died and you just begun grieving and someone walks in the room and reveals some rape charges that friend/parent had that you didn't know about, would you stop crying and reminiscing their life right there?
Pfff haha you’re Kobe’s kid now? Pretty sure his kids aren’t on the site dude.
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feldman114 said: Should have made it “non-consensual fornicator”
How about you don't change the Original posters clear MEMORIAL thread tribute to a tasteless joke to sound woke.
I didn’t, you spaz. I don’t think I can even... it was OP or a mod prolly
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Re: Rapist Dies in Helicopter Crash [Re: trees]
#26455417 - 01/27/20 03:15 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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trees said: What if your best most honorable friend or parent just died and you just begun grieving and someone walks in the room and reveals some rape charges that friend/parent had that you didn't know about, would you stop crying and reminiscing their life right there?
Kobe Bryant isn't your dad.
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Re: Rapist Dies in Helicopter Crash [Re: Niffla] 2
#26455423 - 01/27/20 03:18 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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feldman114 said: Still stuck on the H bomb? Only reason I brought up Hitler and Weinstein is cause someone cited Kobe’s charitable donations as an excuse for the Alleged (happy?) rape.
Maybe you misunderstood, or I wasn't clear, but by no means was I "excusing rape" because he donated a lot of money to charities.
That incident in Colorado is still cloudy. Maybe he did rape her. Maybe he didn't. The only two that will know the truth is him and his accuser. All we know from afar is she said he did it. He said it was consensual. He did settle out of court, and to some that's an admission of guilt. Fair enough. But we also know celebrities with enormous bank accounts have more than once in the past settled just to hurry the entire thing to an end.
For me personally it's not clear enough, not beyond a reasonable doubt anyway, that he raped her. Not for me to judge anyway. All I know is the case was ultimately dismissed.
You, I, or anyone else here knows beyond a reasonable doubt what happened that night. If he did it though -- then yes, that's an awful crime. Obviously.
Sorry, you’re not the one who said charity cancels it out. I think I accidentally replied to you instead or something.
But yeah, we can’t KNOW. But there’s just so many little tell-tale things...like, ok, here: “On September 1, 2004, Eagle County District Judge Terry Ruckriegle dismissed the charges against Bryant, after prosecutors spent more than $200,000 preparing for trial, because his accuser informed them that she was unwilling to testify.”
Yet, after she “for some unknown reason” didn’t testify, she went on to a civil suit and won. If she didn’t testify because she made up her allegation, it’d end there. No civil suit for millions of dollars. But if she was paid/scared off, this would make perfect sense.
Some reporter got canned today for mentioning the allegation in a tweet. Jesus, people sure love their NBA.
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Re: Rapist Dies in Helicopter Crash [Re: Niffla]
#26455426 - 01/27/20 03:19 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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feldman114 said: Still stuck on the H bomb? Only reason I brought up Hitler and Weinstein is cause someone cited Kobe’s charitable donations as an excuse for the Alleged (happy?) rape.
Maybe you misunderstood, or I wasn't clear, but by no means was I "excusing rape" because he donated a lot of money to charities.
That incident in Colorado is still cloudy. Maybe he did rape her. Maybe he didn't. The only two that will know the truth is him and his accuser. All we know from afar is she said he did it. He said it was consensual. He did settle out of court, and to some that's an admission of guilt. Fair enough. But we also know celebrities with enormous bank accounts have more than once in the past settled just to hurry the entire thing to an end.
For me personally it's not clear enough, not beyond a reasonable doubt anyway, that he raped her. Not for me to judge anyway. All I know is the case was ultimately dismissed.
You, I, or anyone else here knows beyond a reasonable doubt what happened that night. If he did it though -- then yes, that's an awful crime. Obviously.
But it's so much easier to just speculate that someone committed a rape because it makes you feel better about yourself.
It almost like being accused of rape doesn't even have much stigma today because the allegation has become meaningless from endless false accusations and speculations from people that just 'feel' a rape might have happened, despite having zero evidence.
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Re: Rapist Dies in Helicopter Crash [Re: qman]
#26455431 - 01/27/20 03:22 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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feldman114 said: Still stuck on the H bomb? Only reason I brought up Hitler and Weinstein is cause someone cited Kobe’s charitable donations as an excuse for the Alleged (happy?) rape.
Maybe you misunderstood, or I wasn't clear, but by no means was I "excusing rape" because he donated a lot of money to charities.
That incident in Colorado is still cloudy. Maybe he did rape her. Maybe he didn't. The only two that will know the truth is him and his accuser. All we know from afar is she said he did it. He said it was consensual. He did settle out of court, and to some that's an admission of guilt. Fair enough. But we also know celebrities with enormous bank accounts have more than once in the past settled just to hurry the entire thing to an end.
For me personally it's not clear enough, not beyond a reasonable doubt anyway, that he raped her. Not for me to judge anyway. All I know is the case was ultimately dismissed.
You, I, or anyone else here knows beyond a reasonable doubt what happened that night. If he did it though -- then yes, that's an awful crime. Obviously.
But it's so much easier to just speculate that someone committed a rape because it makes you feel better about yourself.
It almost like being accused of rape doesn't even have much stigma today because the allegation has become meaningless from endless false accusations and speculations from people that just 'feel' a rape might have happened, despite having zero evidence.
Not as easy as dismissing the victim🤷🏻♂️ He was a multimillionaire NBA star and she was some girl. He lied about having sex with her. That should be enough to take her seriously.
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Re: Rapist Dies in Helicopter Crash [Re: feldman114]
#26455443 - 01/27/20 03:30 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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In December 2003, pre-trial hearings were conducted to consider motions about the admissibility of evidence. During those hearings, the prosecution accused Bryant's defense team of attacking his accuser's credibility.[11] It was revealed that she wore underpants containing another man's semen and pubic hair to her rape exam the day after the alleged incident.[12] Detective Doug Winters stated that the yellow underwear she wore to her rape exam contained sperm from another man, along with Caucasian pubic hair. Bryant's defense stated that the exam results showed "compelling evidence of innocence" because the accuser must have had another sexual encounter immediately after the incident. She told investigators that she grabbed dirty underwear by mistake from her laundry basket when she left her home for the examination. On the day she was examined, she said she hadn't showered since the morning of the incident. The examination found evidence of vaginal trauma, which Bryant's defense team claimed was consistent with having sex with multiple partners in two days.
Bryant's defense lawyer Pamela Mackey asserted that the accuser was taking an anti-psychotic drug for the treatment of schizophrenia at the time of the incident. Lindsey McKinney, who lived with the accuser, said the woman twice tried to kill herself at school by overdosing on sleeping pills. Before the alleged incident, the accuser, an aspiring singer, tried out for the television show American Idol with the song "Forgive" by Rebecca Lynn Howard, but failed to advance.[17] In addition to the woman's moral character and reputation being challenged by Bryant's defense lawyer, she received death threats and hate mail[18] and her identity was leaked multiple times.[19]
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Edited by Seriously_trippin (01/27/20 03:31 PM)
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feldman114 said: Should have made it “non-consensual fornicator”
How about you don't change the Original posters clear MEMORIAL thread tribute to a tasteless joke to sound woke.
I didn’t, you spaz. I don’t think I can even... it was OP or a mod prolly
Nobody has changed the thread title. What anyone can change is the subject line of any of their own posts in the thread.
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Right, exactly. Kobe’s army of lawyers and PR experts smeared the shit out of her. Fans sent her death threats, doxed her, etc.
You’re demonstrating why “he wasn’t convicted” is a lame argument
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Re: ... [Re: psi]
#26455455 - 01/27/20 03:40 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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feldman114 said: Should have made it “non-consensual fornicator”
How about you don't change the Original posters clear MEMORIAL thread tribute to a tasteless joke to sound woke.
I didn’t, you spaz. I don’t think I can even... it was OP or a mod prolly
Nobody has changed the thread title. What anyone can change is the subject line of any of their own posts in the thread.
Oh. Well, shit, guess I’m still a n00b
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Well Kobe beef sure knows how to pick'em, eh? Such a fine upstanding citizen , so pristine and lovely. Fuck all those people. (not on the copter of course, only the players and the freaks around them)
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Re: ... [Re: psi] 1
#26455461 - 01/27/20 03:42 PM (4 years, 20 days ago) |
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feldman114 said: Should have made it “non-consensual fornicator”
How about you don't change the Original posters clear MEMORIAL thread tribute to a tasteless joke to sound woke.
I didn’t, you spaz. I don’t think I can even... it was OP or a mod prolly
Nobody has changed the thread title. What anyone can change is the subject line of any of their own posts in the thread.
Yeah the Original post stays the same I get it but editing the subeject line on a MEMORIAL thread to call someone a rapist is still fucked up and blatant flaming right psi?
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Edited by Seriously_trippin (01/27/20 03:43 PM)
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psi
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I mean it's not a memorial of a member here or anything like that. I think it's fair game to bring up the negatives.
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