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AZZI
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#26455089 - 01/27/20 12:35 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Has anyone else noticed that thoughts are more potent than words?
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Diego


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Re: Weird [Re: AZZI]
#26455092 - 01/27/20 12:38 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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I feel the opposite. Thoughts never feel real until i say them out loud
-------------------- Some do it for the income But we do it for the outcome Some of us are active While others just let their mouths run - Chali 2na & Jurassic 5
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Re: Weird [Re: Diego]
#26455194 - 01/27/20 01:24 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Ah yeah.. well, def. try it sometime.. next time you have a great desire, don't say anything about it. I think you will be surprised, if not amazed. It's very curious.
But other times it's good to talk about stuff for sure.
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Re: Weird [Re: Diego] 1
#26455197 - 01/27/20 01:25 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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I find, sometimes, that the transcription can potentiate the thought. But, more often, the thoughts subsist of more than the words can describe. It's an aspiration of mine to speak and understand a variety of languages - one of the main desires being that I can further elaborate the potential of any thought.
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AZZI
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I'm fluent in a couple. It's worth while for sure.
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footpath said: I find, sometimes, that the transcription can potentiate the thought. But, more often, the thoughts subsist of more than the words can describe. It's an aspiration of mine to speak and understand a variety of languages - one of the main desires being that I can further elaborate the potential of any thought.
O yeah same experiment I recommend 
Btw footpath, you like Moondog right?
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Re: Weird [Re: AZZI]
#26455307 - 01/27/20 02:18 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Unfortunately, my foundation is the U.S. education system. If it weren't for my own fascination and thirst for my language, I'd probably only be half as literate in my native tongue. Anything beyond English is simply just to get by when visiting other places. Maybe a little extra Spanish.
Love Moondog when he's composed. A lot of it is pretty trying for the ears to get through.
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I understand. I read Goethe at 15 coz I was wanting to get more educated. Then Dostoevsky at 17. But, don't get it wrong, we learn good things here.
China, Russia, North Korea, all probably less pleasant places to go to school.
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Re: Weird [Re: AZZI]
#26455369 - 01/27/20 02:51 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Nah but I know. Less than 100% of people are perfectly sane, and they hound some things into you..
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Re: Weird [Re: AZZI] 1
#26455573 - 01/27/20 05:01 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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In my view thoughts are words which haven’t been expressed, but are you meaning emotion or feelings? I had a cry the other night just listening to music and smoking weed with a drink while I was tripping. Seems like mushrooms know how to bring tears which I heard is pretty common. But it is like when the circumstances seem right that the trip just gets real.
It’s like a trip but it is a real trip (not trying to say most trips aren’t real)
Also just wanted to say I was thinking that
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No I guess I meant direct will.
Try this,
In any setting, talk less.
Now tell me if this is not a direct proportion, limitless correlation between not talking and effeciency.
But I do mean that it extends beyond 'observable'.
So if you are desiring something.
Actions are okay, but don't talk about it.
I promise if you try this, you will be amazed.
Want to get married?
Just wish for it, keep quiet, you'll be there.
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Re: Weird [Re: AZZI] 2
#26456081 - 01/27/20 10:13 PM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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My thoughts are words.
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nooneman said: My thoughts are words.
Within my head.
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Might have been openmind I was thinking about.
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Re: Weird [Re: AZZI]
#26456776 - 01/28/20 12:43 PM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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I like to think thoughts are made of words even if you are a visual person. Emotion is more grey area if they are based on words or not.
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Emotions are best understood by actually experiencing it. Words just don't quite sum up the experience.
And with psychedelics, theres a deeper understanding and experience of emotions mid-trip that I find other-worldly and Sacred.
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I find that my word-thinking is usually in context to something that I may have even the slightest chance of needing convey - an occurrence or data, inclusive of the description of a feeling. I don't simply just say 'I was scared.' I take note of the glistening saliva on the teeth, the moistness of the breath, and the deep, inaudible frequencies of the roar. But my free-thought - that that is mine and mine alone - is often more of an input/response sort of impression on my memory. And I find that most everything that I experience has a duality of both of these planes of thought. The tangible and the disguised. Surface and subsurface information. I suppose you could just call that feeling or emotion, but there often seems to be some sort of adjoined cryptic analysis that's going on in tandem with my word-thinking. So much that I could put my feeling/emotional response into a third category of its own. This isn't to say that my word-thought and/or my emotions don't feel complete in their representation of a given experience - they often do. I suppose I may just need to expand my vocabulary or comprehension. Or maybe I'm just not so great at expressing my feelings. But that seems too cut and dry.
To tie this into an actual psychedelic experience, Sometimes 'bad trips' are simply just arduous bouts of being mauled by your regrets (like... all of them - compounded into a 5 hour experience) ... but how many words are actually being generated as you go through these thoughts? Of course, much of that vernacular absence can be supplemented by emotional input; you can easily say, 'well, it felt...' But it wouldn't make much sense to simply dive through your recollections in a strictly sensory/emotional perspective. There's analysis, there's consideration, there's quantification. And so much of that has an identity that is not complete with words and emotions alone. There's something else hiding in the shadows.
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The line between thoughts and words blurs on psychs
-------------------- "That you are here—that life exists, and identity; That the powerful play goes on, and you will contribute a verse.” ― Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass

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The Mycologist said: The line between thoughts and words blurs on psychs
 Can't even express my thoughts into words half of the time.
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It's great to see all you guys' replies. I find, wisdom comes in many forms and I agree, there's an essence beyond words... Many things suggest 'opposite view' of perception base to be real.
Like, do we create the world, or etc.
"External nature is just internal nature writ large."
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