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Cams 1st monotub 2
#26454637 - 01/27/20 07:02 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Hello Shroomery, and welcome to my 1st attempt at a full size monotub  I’m dedicating a thread for this as I expect to have a lot of questions along the way, or at least will be asking for a lot of reassurance on how things are looking and instead of clogging up General discussion, I can document my grow here. Going from 6qt shoeboxes to a 58qt monotub So to start: I am going to be running a Rustywhyte clone I have ran this culture in shoeboxes once so far.  I inoculated 4 pints of wbs via A2G on 1/15/2020 (the yellow is just a reflection, and the pint in the back was shook just before the pic )I am going to run four 58qt modified monotubs, dialed in with Pastywhyte's Easy Micropore Dialed Monos Each tub will get 4 quarts of spawn and 8 quarts of sub.
- For the expansion, I am going 1:4 pints-quarts
- WBS master to Oat receiving jars
Oats were hydrated by bringing water to a boil, then pouring over oats and covering. Let steep for 45mins, then drained and left to dry for about 16 hours (?) (Drained at 1:00am and I won’t be home to load jars and PC until 5:30pm)

They should be good and dry when I get home to PC. Jars are modified plastic lids with SFD filter  Post PC  The Expansion:Receiving jars were marked A-D to keep track of the 4 masters. This should allow me to see if things go bad, if it was spawn or technique Pretty confidant that the A group (shown in video) and the D group are solid. I may have got a little restless with the B and C set, time will tell G2G day, Day 3 Now for the monotub build: I used Spitball's Monotub Tek. Got ahold of a 1.25 hole saw and went to work  **this is a quick post from work, I will be updating with more pics as they come, as well as all the questions I'm bound to have. **Piggybacking the G2G expansion, I will be doing some more LC work as well with the RW culture (want to aspirate to syringe, and use on PF style jar grow)  Noced 1/27/2020
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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little update, post PC oats. 2 hours at 15psi *took 2 cycles to run 20 jars last night Even with all that dry time, I am praying they are not to wet. My pint masters should be ready for expansion by this weekend.
So in the days leading up:
- I am looking for my jars to absorb any moisture still on the outside of the hulls. As well as looking for any contaminants between now and inoculating.
Most of the lids were just made, so this should let me observe that my filters are working correctly, and also that I successfully sterilized the jars.
4 days should be enough for any nastys to show they face right?
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
#26456554 - 01/28/20 10:05 AM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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4 days sounds about right. I pooped one open by accident a little while ago and within a week it was full of death.
Glad I caught this one, I’ll be attempting a tub soon In the near future.
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Tracking well for the G2G expansion on Friday.

I wish I could take a good pic lol, this was at 5am this morning tho and the girlfriend was sleeping so I had to use my flash
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
#26461550 - 01/31/20 05:53 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Glad to have you here! This directly stems from the convo with you and Cron in another thread..that I cant seem to find Thanks for the push in the right direction
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
#26461610 - 01/31/20 06:41 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Monos with mp tape being the easiest / best fc? Yessir.
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Gonna stack right where that trampoline is at atm and use the shelving for spawn and plates per Cron
found 2" MP tape too 
G2G expansion is going down this evening, and like an athlete taking practice swings. I usually watch this a few times before going in
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stareatclouds said: Here's a quick video of how I perform G2G transfers in my SAB. All jars were wiped down once outside of the SAB and once again inside before filming. I'm used to expanding to 6 jars and went a bit light on these by accident. However, I do purposely leave some grain in the masters to sniff after.
Mistakes:
- One minor mistake I make is moving a jar out of the line barehanded from the bottom without wiping my hand before I touch the jar. I usually grab jars by the tops with the iso-towel, whoops. Not a major fuck up, but worth fixing.
- I shouldn't wipe down the master jar without securing the lid better. I usually place my index on the SFD and wipe around the rim. In the sped up intro you can see it popping open slightly twice.
Please drop any comments, especially advice or helpful criticism. While I have a very good G2G success rate, I can always get better.
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
#26462682 - 01/31/20 07:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Meet me in the laabbb, its goin down
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
#26462813 - 01/31/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Damn, that was a little more challenging to record then I thought I did 4 "sessions" with about 10 mins in between reloading and getting to work
This and the last went the best, but overall it was the same process repeated 4 times shown in the video
I'm labeling the receiving jars A-D so if a batch goes south I can hopefully trace it back to my technique or spawn and not left guessing if there was a pattern
Updated OP 1/31
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
#26462850 - 01/31/20 09:48 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I really didnt like that move with the third jar, looked like your left hand may have passed over the master jar, Otherwise it looked pretty decent.
A few pointers: 1. Get all your jars in place, so you dont have to move them around as much 2. Fully loosen the receiving jar lids before opening the master jar 3. Hold the lids from the edges and move them a little more clear before pouring, 4. Hold the master jar from the bottom instead of the sides so when you pour the hand isnt over your receiving jar at all.
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: AyePlus]
#26462857 - 01/31/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I really appreciate the feedback! that 3rd jar...lid got kinda stuck on me there.
Great call-out on where I am grabbing the master from, I didn't think twice about that
pointers well received, thanks for taking the time
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
#26466492 - 02/03/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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3 days later the myc is leaping onto my oats  Will update with pics this evening, and I promise not to keep showing you a slow progression of colonizing jars lol
1 jar in the "C" batch that ironically got the most donors grain is actually not recovering well. WBS hasn't fluffed back up in comparison to the other 15 jars
If it ends up as a loss, I do have a colonized RW quart that I was going to fridge while this project rolls and expand after. But I might use it in place of the lost "C" jar if she doesn't pull thru
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
#26466535 - 02/03/20 09:42 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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3 days is a long time for recovery. I like to see a light fuzz after 24 hrs and fully engulfed and spreading (if its a g2g or 15% from a2g) by day 3
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: AyePlus]
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jars are temp reading around 68-70 degrees, assuming the lower (if you even wanna call that lower) temps may have slowed things down a little.
My offhand depiction of them may not fully do what a picture can, I could see the fuzz the following day, just noting that last night I seen the myc threads and they are leaping onto the oats.
I expect to see some patches when I get home this evening, and will take some pics may even ask the GF snap a few while I go on lunch here in a min
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She came through with a couple pics
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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Anyone care to chime in on their experience with G2G time frames?
Today I am positive the 1 "C" jar in question is indeed toast. I'll be sure to watch the other 3 from that batch, but given that the rest all are looking good (afaik...see post above for yesterdays pic) I have to assume it was a big flaw on my technique with that particular jar.
I am hoping to see 100% by Sunday with rest
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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Camera93 said: RW LC

I have 30cc syringes and needles that are packaged still. I don't have to worry about any PC'ing before I use one to aspirate this to do I?
Also bought some "LC" needles awhile ago that are real long but aren't sharp and don't seem like they will puncture my SHIP 
can I just get a nudge in the right direction?  I'm assuming no, they are sterile out of the package, but I don't wanna make a stupid mistake
I've used the search function, I asked in GD...2x I want this in a syringe cause it may or may not be gifted to someone and also, I might the proud holder of an Enigma culture here soon and would like that in syringe as well. I can see in BODs LC tek he says that taking off the lid and sucking up is better then going thru the SHIP as well. ANY feedback is appreciated on aspirating, even if its just to tell me to go fuck myself
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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I’d hope you don’t need to pc it if it’s in sterile packaging lol.
If you’ve got solid SAB technique why not just crack the lid and suck it up??
I saw someone with a great set up for this, it was like a ship that had a tube that went to the bottom of the jar so you could suck up the myc blob without opening or tilting.
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I was kinda worried about having my hands over the wide open mouth of the jar
I'm trying to think how hard it would be to draw back the syringe all with one hand, while the other holds the LC jar at like a 45° angle?
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You could try making something to hold the jar at an angle, I made stuff out of styrofoam blocks that came in amazon packages.
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fucking genius! 
that is a great idea, thank you!
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#26473489 - 02/07/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just shske the shit out of it and pour it like a regular g2g. Waay easier than fucking around with syringes.
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: AyePlus]
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yeah, I ended up just opening it and sucking up 15cc then poured the rest over 4 quarts
I have split dish petries and I took a loop on 1 side to test the LC in the jar after it was used
and shot a squirt on the other side from the syringe to check it out.
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Pretty sure I'm going to lose a few more jars from the G2G expansion as well.. Most of them are at like 85%-90% (really just throwing %'s out there lol, they are pretty damn close to 100 tho)
but a few that I thought had just received less grain aren't keeping up and I shook one 2 days ago that wasn't looking hot this morning..
I am assuming bacterial, as the "C" jar I pitched for the same reason smelled pretty ripe 
If I get 4 good jars lol I'll be okay, I really wanna run this tub

gonna be PC'ing 10 quarts of WBS tonight, and I have a quart of RW fully colonized right now that I may expand to the 10
I'll post a pic of that jar tho before I attempt to expand it and see what the boards opinion is as far as my idea of "clean"
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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I personally dont see the point if LC unless you’re in a hurry to inoculate more than 10 things at a time. Otherwise g2g is superior IMO and even at 10 I’d go for LI over LC. If I wanted to inoculste like 50 jars at a time I might consider LC.
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: AyePlus]
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It's just fun to make and watch grow out
I have family that just moved and cant start back up with agar and bulk and I had ideas of *hypothetically* sending a LC syringe that they could use on half pint cakes and top fruit like in Bods tek for some easy mush in the meantime
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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This is the "clean" quart of RW that I want to expand to make up for the loss in the last G2G

Does she look good to the collective you? let me know if better angles are in order
Here a sample from the G2G I did

Most look like this, "sweating" can be seen on tops of the jars, they dont look creamy, but I am worried there is high bacterial load in there as 1 hasn't recovered from the shake yet. Might turn into a shoebox thread as I really don't want to waste it with other bad ones ina mono
all should be ready to spawn by Sunday my best guess
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Condensation is normal, at least for me lol.
I’ve never run oats but that looks good to me. I feel your pain man I was planning on having three 5qt tubs spawned 10 days ago but I keep having a jar or two that makes me nervous and g2g more.
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Ugh yeah, if I spawn them each to a SB and they all do great I am gonna wanna kick myself in the ass for not running the tubs other hand, I am scared to risk it and lose everything lol
a couple said the wbs jar looks good tho. I prepped less then I thought last night and only ended up with 5 quarts I'm about to PC for G2G
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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Photo of master is super out of focus, photo of g2g looks great, I’d even consider expanding that more. Sometimes jars/bags dont recover, bacteria in one jar/bag doesnt mean it necessarily came from the master, you coulda just botched the g2g or a2g. Sometimes hars take a super long time to recover because the grain is super dry but usually if it looks wet snd doesmt recover its bacteria.
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all four sides
really on the receiver?? all the condensation up top making me worried, and 2 so far did not recovered from a shake when I did. both also were a bit behind the rest to begin with
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Sometimes condensation is just from temp swings, its usually worse on jars/bags that are on the outside edges. I see nothing in that oat jar that looks questionable. For oats it looks great IMO.
Millet jar looks pretty decent too, i personally like to use masters before any consolidation happens, even if theres a grain or two not fully colonized, its moving into another sterile container, and I feel i get a more vigorous leap off and shorter recovery time because you have to shake less to break up the grain, and less myc is damaged and more of the mycelium is in the process of quick growth/expansion in all directions.
When in doubt of a master shake it a couple days before you want to expand and see how it reacts.
I do g2g 1:5-1:10 with jars then 1:10 again or~ 1:4bags but only with the nicest ones, the crappier ones go 1:1bag or get spawned from jars or tossed. So there are lots of levels of cleanliness if you’re paying attention, not just clean or contaminated, but even above and beyond that. Or kinda bacterial but still worth something...
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: AyePlus]
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I really appreciate the insight Aye, thank you!
It is a ton of help, even if mostly to calm my scrambling brain
I haven't done very much expansion yet. Mainly I was tiger dropping pasty plates to blenderless LI and nocing 5 or 6 quarts for my projects.
Its incredible how far a clean wedge of myc can go
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What kind of wbs do you use? I just ran out and bought a huge bag of this new kind that’s mostly millet like yours. It’s kind of a pain in the ass to tell if it’s colonized but I figure I’ll learn it quick enough and all the tiny seeds will make things go faster.
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lol just posted in GD
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Camera93 said: I have been having my best luck with a 24 hour cold water soak with WBS
drain about 15-20 mins load and PC
my PC is dropping temp atm with 5 quarts prepped in that manner, I can share a pic post PC if you'd like

I get it from walmart, I have gotten bags that have some gravel like shit in it that I hate, but this was fairly clean
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Oh right on that’s the same stuff I just got. For some reason a lot of times the myc seemed to not like some of the seeds in the other brand. There were these big red ones like the size of a pea that it would just go around until everything else was colonized then finally cover them.
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I think that is the red sorghum(?)
Feildman just said this in GD earlier
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feldman114 said: Looks healthy but them damn white millets are tricky as fuck. They don’t look colonized even when they are. That’s why I like to use pure red mullet when I can find it.
I wish I was smart enough to offer an opinion on why it seems to avoid it.
since I seen mushboy challenge the idea of sunflower seeds and floaters being good/bad and colonizing jar of just that, I don't really fret anymore on the mix
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: A.k.a]
#26474655 - 02/07/20 08:34 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yea its pretty wild but theoretically each clean master is capable of becoming 1000. And you could LI 1 plate into 100 if you used a syringe and only used a couple cc’s in each.
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: AyePlus]
#26474668 - 02/07/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah I was worried about sunflowers and corn at first but it’s never been a problem. I do usually scoop the floaters with a strainer but that’s more cuz I pour the water down the toilet and don’t want them going with it. Occasionally I’ll come across a piece of corn the size of a nickel and pick it out, but the myc seems to like sunflower seeds.
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: A.k.a]
#26481507 - 02/12/20 07:28 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Update
Well, I am not real confidant in the spawn. I spawned 1 mono on the 10th and 3 bags
The rest of the jars should be ready to go into something today, 7-8 quarts in total.
Debating on just going to bags with them 
The LC jars are looking good, I have 4 of them nocc'd on the 6th that will finish this week and go to a monotub
5 more were hit with 2cc of LC on the 10th as well.
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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I know this is a late reply, but if you look in the first picture there is an iffy err of bacterial splatter at about 3 on the jar. I downloaded the image and circled it but I do not want to upload with out your permission Cam.
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Sockadin]
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go for it man, I ended up putting that jar to bulk by its lonesome in one of the bags if its the wbs jar were talking about
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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Cool I will update in a minute--
Updated 
This is the section I thought looked suspect.
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Sockadin]
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Thanks for pointing that out Sockadin, I would have agree with you. That angle also wasn't the best tho, the jar has raised parts of an image and some lettering which I think is caught in this pic
But either way, it got spawned to a bag at 1:2 with the single quart only 4 looked worth the risk to combine into the monotub
Ill get pics of the remaining jars up this evening, but I think they will likely all go to individual shoeboxes or bags
but again my LC jars are looking great for day 6, I'll post them as well, but I am hoping to be able to combine those 4 for another monotub
as always, I greatly appreciate your and everyones feedback. Ya'll are a resource beyond measure to me
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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No big deal, you spawned it alone and didn't use it as G2G. I am excited to see how it turns out. I was just pointing out the kinds of things I look for in jars before I decide to do something with them. I would never dump a jar because of a bacterial contamination because my op is so small. If I had 100's of jars that would be different.
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Sockadin]
#26481872 - 02/12/20 11:58 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I dont know how premature my decision was on the 2 jars that I did dump.
They were both shaken up and after 48hrs were not aggressively recovering so I opened and they had that sweet/soury smell associated with bacteria. Would they have produced, did I wait long enough on the recovery, 
I shook another either 2 or 3 days ago..didn't date it I'll take a pic of that one too here in a few hours, but its another that Im worried wont do well based on its recovery
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
#26481940 - 02/12/20 12:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Damn ya Should have given it some more time. Honestly I would have left it alone until %100 positive signs of contam or bacteria. Even then depending on the problem and unless it’s trich or something else really baddddd, you can still get a decent flush or two a lot of the time. Just my 2 cents
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If i dont have full recovery and spreading in 36-48 hours I toss it. Tbh i start feeling skeptical around 24 hrs if I dont see at least a little bit of fuzz. For jars I’m using for g2g its 18-24 hr recovery( and full colonization in 4-5 days when shaken above 50% )
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: AyePlus]
#26482482 - 02/12/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Jars in various lighting

LC jars 6 days in
This is at least 2 days post shake
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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Well I got about everything spawned in one thing or another:
4qts in the monotub 5 bags 1qt each 3 shoeboxes: 2 at 2qts and 1 at 1qt
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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I have been trying to refrain from asking, but at this point its killing me. I noticed the white patch 2 days ago. Hasn't aggressively grown or gotten bigger. I would have expected to see green by now if its not just a bacterial reaction so another round of Trich or Myc??
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
#26493922 - 02/19/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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All look like myc to me
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: AyePlus]
#26493933 - 02/19/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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AyePlus said: All look like myc to me
well I'm upset with myself for noobishly asking, figured nothing would save me if trich anyways and I would know in another day or so. But hella relived to have the feedback Aye! Worked better then any benzo to calm the nerves lol
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Cam I would like to pay you a major compliment by saying that you are quite the amateur mycologist!!! You are so neat and organized with your skills, techniques, equipment, and posts. Only criticism I have is that you need to learn to trust your abilities and be confident. Keep up the good work bud, you're a natural.
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: bootedboy]
#26494064 - 02/19/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah it looks like normal happy growth! Excited to see the pinset in a few days! Nice grow Cam, please don't forget us when those tubs start flushing out.
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Sockadin]
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@Bootedboy the kind words are mush appreciated! 
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Sockadin said: Yeah it looks like normal happy growth! Excited to see the pinset in a few days! Nice grow Cam, please don't forget us when those tubs start flushing out.
Oh don't worry! It isn't the 4 monotub run I set out for, but I ended up with 4 shoeboxes, 5 bags, and 2 monos spawned a week apart 5 more quarts are colonizing now
should be plenty to see flushing over the next couple weeks and Ill be sure to share the show
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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Now that your busy flushing and harvesting. Please post pin porn!
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Sockadin]
#26500890 - 02/24/20 04:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not much to show yet. Everything spawned on the 10th does have some pins coming in. Ill get some underwhelming pictures up this evening
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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Congrats on you pins! Look like more air could help.
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Sockadin]
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Sockadin said: Congrats on you pins! Look like more air could help.
Thank you 
I'll post a better pic tonight of the pinset now that its filling in better and I'll likely remove 1 layer from the bottom holes if the more FAE consensus stands
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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Yeah it does appear that it could use more fae. Notice how the caps of the pins are so small. Probably due to a lack of fae. Try turning the fan on low in the room they’re in or move them to a location with more air circulation.
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: bootedboy]
#26505176 - 02/26/20 04:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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(1 of 2) monos
(1 of 4) 2qt shoebox
(1 of 5) bags a little eager compared to the rest
I will remove a layer of MP tape on the monotub tonight, as well as add little holes around sub level for the bags Hydrating about 16-20 quarts of oats for my 1st shot at bags tomorrow
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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Looks like you didn't case at spawning? Or did you?
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filthyknees said: Looks like you didn't case at spawning? Or did you?
pseudo-cased with coir
I should maybe change how I have been doing that tho. I mix my spawn and sub and then only use like another quart (as far as shoeboxes) of coir to cover the top. For the monotub, same thing, just enough to cover the top. Thinking I should start adding a thicker layer
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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I don't know what you mean in terms of covering shoeboxes.
I'm here for the mono, you use a qt coir to case it?
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maybe 2.5 however much to just cover the top.
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
#26508494 - 02/28/20 03:56 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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not the densest pinset
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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Looks good. Second flush should come in strong!
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Sockadin]
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869* wet, I took everything cause even the little ones looked like the vail was showing 20 days spawn to harvest keep missing even the most general BE  
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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They look good man and quick too.
How many quarts of spawn ended up in there?
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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Did you do a couple with that clone? Has-the clone been tested before?
Genetics play a bigger role than most people think. You can baby a decent culture that wont produce 1/2 of what a badass culture thats been abused to hell.
Other possibility is spawn wasnt as clean as you hopef. Either way, something is better than nothing!
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: AyePlus]
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A.k.a said: They look good man and quick too.
How many quarts of spawn ended up in there?
Thank you  I eneded up with 4 quarts in there
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AyePlus said: Did you do a couple with that clone? Has-the clone been tested before?
Genetics play a bigger role than most people think. You can baby a decent culture that wont produce 1/2 of what a badass culture thats been abused to hell.
Other possibility is spawn wasnt as clean as you hopef. Either way, something is better than nothing!
Only 1 other time in shoeboxes and I didn't hit the goal their either. I was chalking it up to me and just needing to get better at some part of it.
I have another mono going now spawned the 17th and 4 more quarts will be ready this week for another tub
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Camera93]
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Is it AA+? Looks awesome, grats on the pull. Nothing to complain about there.
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Re: Cams 1st monotub [Re: Sockadin]
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RW. Don't get discouraged man, it's your FIRST monotub.
The genetics search keeps things interesting.
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