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Amanita86
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It’s a rare man that can stand in the presence of temptation and walk away on the higher plane..
Don’t let the fuck faces bring you down..
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Orange clock, pencil "They threw me off the hay truck about noon..."
*Mark 15:34  Gam zeh ya’avor...
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watermelon mon
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: Amanita86]
#26453212 - 01/26/20 09:30 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Thank you man
You sound like that song
The Toasters - dont let the bastrds grind you down
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watermelon mon
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Ska music
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Gypsy Boy
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Ditto
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: Gypsy Boy]
#26453295 - 01/26/20 10:37 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Yeah man. That song is gey.
I'm in the doctor's office. Going to see a neurologist soon. This place is scary.
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: Antigov] 1
#26453599 - 01/26/20 01:50 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
Antigov said: My understanding is you have to believe in it to work.
ehhhh yes and no
if you genuinely disbelieve in all possibility of it without question, you can prolly cancel it but few humans actually are completely without belief in the possibility of the supernatural and curses function best when they can kind of dully gnaw away at that perception
someone who believes in curses is more likely to seek ways to break it
this is where the strength of belief comes back in tho best way to counter a curse is with intense belief and efforts to charm yourself there can't be an inexplicable bad juju messing with your vibes if you keep them insulated in positive charmed perceptions can't psychologically self-sabatoge from fear of cursed actions when convinced in self-support from confidence in charmed protections it's like placing a defensive circle before magic work; but instead extending it into a defensive bubble for less static functioning
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: Tantrika]
#26454639 - 01/27/20 07:03 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Scammers are very real.
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Barnaby
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: TIS87]
#26454699 - 01/27/20 07:43 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Lol. They delve deeply into black magic. They are just pieces of shit. The ignorant gets fucked over like my late father. Could not convince them out of the fraud but it was so plain. Old people and those that take advantage and steal from them.
Fuck them. Sell a fake fantasy. Would like to beat the living shit out of them.
Could curse them, I know how. Just tried to convince my dad they were conning him. Wouldn't listen. God I hate that time. Common sense is lost so much on the older generations.
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: Barnaby]
#26454714 - 01/27/20 07:57 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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I always take back my curses in time. Just my progression. Just because I know how to doesn't mean I want to anymore. Then going back and removing it. Life, time is a illusion. You can go back and shift things then there are things in ones progression that never can be undone.
That is all I regret. When one realizes how one influenced another to self destruct and yet somehow I am still alive, it sucks. Someone close to you commiting suicide the day after you talk to them. And then having idiot fucks come that sold the heroin to kill one off so they don't get arrested. Hurts like hell. I miss her.
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Barnaby
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: Barnaby]
#26454738 - 01/27/20 08:18 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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The most amusing thing to me by law is it is illegal to commit suicide. I influenced, though it was their choice, two people two do so when I was younger. I regret it and it will stick with me throughout life.
Can never be proven. Point being I tried 3 times. And it really sucks when trying to o.d. and can't piss for two weeks and car exhaust that is a 3 day sickness with no relief.
Have been to psychwards and I have come to the conclusion that it is better to live life. Have delved deeply in the black arts but I just don't want to. Nothing but self destruction and despair and it is horrid.
I can conjure things but oneself and body choosing to incarnate is of such value. Just my experience. Hard won wisdom. Middle aged now and just a family with two kids with a woman that I feel is a possibility with me. Is enough for me.
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: Barnaby]
#26456914 - 01/28/20 02:00 PM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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Are they real ? Yes indeedy
If there is a curse. how can I break it ? Consume a pint of garlic juice whilst kneeling before your Patrick Swayze shrine
Will grape juice and bread help ? If the grape juice has been blessed by a deacon and money always helps everything
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: Dilsnique]
#26464367 - 02/01/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I like that grimore from a witch that didn't burn it as I guess she died or just choose not to. Be careful with things like it. For those not learned in the craft...don't mess with it. I leaned the hard way.
Never use your own blood is the best warning I can give to people who have no clue as what they are doing.
Rituals are just to focus. Everything is within. EVERYTHING!
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: Barnaby]
#26464375 - 02/01/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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There are no curses in any true magical sense. People have genuine psychological/physical problems that people can exploit to make you think your cursed. Strong psychological suggestion and actual neurological and physical harm is what a curse is. And if your real smart possibly something like brainwave entrainment using audio waves outside the normal range of hearing or some other thing that I guarantee can be explained scientifically. Anyone claiming they've cursed you is just a megalomaniac piece of trash that thinks they have the right to fuck with people's health. Any curse that you believe you have that others haven't "put" on you is just your own physical/neurological/psychological short comings that are getting the best of you. Get healthy meditate and get away from crazy people. That's how you break a curse.
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: azramb]
#26464412 - 02/01/20 10:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Right. Everyone chooses dark and white magic daily. But if you believe it all can be explained scientifically or through those words you use which is amusing, no demeaning but it is real and the is the cutoff in modern society.
Would be fun to prove it to you for those who have the mindset like you seem to that everything can be explained. No, no it can't. You have no clue man. People find safety in what they can explain especially in this society that is so far removed from anything of worth and within, spiritualism instead of materialism which will crumble.
Do a ritual from a something of worth and see if you can explain it. Elon Musk said A.I. is like entering into the world like those who conjure demons and how does that usually work for them?
Don't lose the mystery of the world. What you choose is your choice of course. Will and choice. Mind, science, look at history. Arrogant man I sense your arrogance and ignorance. Really do some real research. Wouldn't recommend it but science in 2020 explains everything right? Just look at the world around us, how is it doing?
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: Barnaby]
#26464442 - 02/01/20 11:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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The "unexplainable" part is the psychological aspect. Maybe not explainable in the traditional scientific sense. Like through physics or something. Although maybe to some degree. Who knows. But psychology is, in a way, a form of science. I've done plenty of meditation. This is my "ritual". It can induce deep altered psychological states. States of awe and wonder. Psychedelics and "astral projection" or lucid dreaming can have these other wordly "unexplainable" type of effects. But it's psychology from my point of view. It's science. We may be underdeveloped in the scientific sense for these particular areas but that will likely change. Magical? Yes you could say that. Actual magic? No not from my point of view. I have a better idea than you assume. I don't judge you for thinking of these things as magic. And just to clarify I don't think people who believe in magic are crazy. When I say crazy people I'm talking about people who actively participate in trying to "curse" people. If somebody actively trys to "curse" somebody else they are a genuine and dangerous psychopath and anyone trying to heal themselves should stay far away from these crazy people.
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: azramb]
#26464450 - 02/01/20 11:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Belief and will is more powerful then all that jargon. Seriously, do a ritual and write how it went if you choose. I can pick one for you but not sure I would want to from my experiences but I know it would change how you view it. 
Really, feel safe explaining it away.
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: azramb]
#26464457 - 02/01/20 11:20 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I believe in much more "magical" types of things than people probably assume based on the way I talk. I just look at it differently. I believe you can "sense" the emotions of others around you. I believe people put off a certain "aura" when they're in certain moods. I believe in-and have experienced-something like astral projection-lucid dreaming-on a few occasions. I just look at these things differently. To me it's psychology, it's body language, it's magnetic interactions between two bodys, it's science. It's programming/information processing. It's the frequency and resonance of your brainwaves. It's the electrochemical/electromechanical processes in your mind and body. You have your way of looking at things though and that's fine. And I agree will is a powerful thing. Explain to me how I should do a ritual? Is meditation not a ritual in your eyes?
Edited by azramb (02/01/20 11:33 PM)
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: azramb]
#26464533 - 02/02/20 01:13 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's just interesting cause you say you know it would change how I view it and that it would be fun to prove it to me. But you won't even tell me how I should go about doing one of these rituals. You just give me arbitrary explanations about how your experience tells you you shouldn't. There's no why or how or what to your explanation. Just that you know better than me and that's the end of it. I'm open to trying your ritual out on my own time with no external influence to see how I feel about it. You won't even tell me how. It's just interesting is all. From my experience people hide knowledge to control or to keep there beliefs safe more than for any other reason. I'm not saying i know for a fact that's your intention. But I think it kind of seems like your scared that i wont believe like you after the fact and so your hiding your rituals to keep your beliefs intact. But who knows you tell me.
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Barnaby
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: azramb]
#26464668 - 02/02/20 05:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, do a ritual. Will you? All it takes is a black ball point pen and cardboard and an invocation. Simple. Summon a demon. Will give you the, god I could really fuck you over but I won't, so you have a choice as everyone does but that is one of things they get you with like you don't, but you do.
Pick. Or I will pick for you. Just joking, your will and choice has to be involved weird science man.
I sense it is unclear to you. So pick any ritual and demon you want. Just google it. You will regret it I know but it will get you out of this societal conditioned construct that so many words....lol.
No mystery in the world. You know how ignorant that sounds. Like science from a decade ago? Do you even research history?
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Re: curses & black magic [Re: Barnaby]
#26465275 - 02/02/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh that type of ritual. I've done that type of stuff. Writing things on paper/card board and directing your intentions can be a powerful tool for self suggestion in your psyche. Or you could use it to put suggestions in other peoples head. But again it's not magic to me. I've never had success summoning anything with it. Maybe demons don't like me lol. The only time I've ever had anything like "entity contact" is on DMT. And to me those are just archetypes in my own mind represented to me in the 3rd person. They're not "demons" or "gods" or anything like that from my perspective. It's just me, my subconscious. And I never said there was no mystery in the world. Science isn't mutually exclusive from wonder. In fact in my opinion science increases the wonder of the world. The fact that it all makes sense is much more mysterious than magic to me. Much more interesting. Just my POV.
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