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pacmanbreed



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Our sacrificial body 3
#26444521 - 01/21/20 09:33 AM (4 years, 27 days ago) |
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In our present dispensation, can anyone still offer a sacrifice to God? How? And what should we offer?
It is very evident today that many pastors ask their members to offer money and other material things for sacrifice. So it is but sensible to find out from the Bible if those are the rightful offerings and sacrifices that a Christian is required to offer God.
There are many sacrifices that can be read in the Bible, like the sacrifice of different kinds of animals. But it must be understood that when the Lord Jesus Christ came they were all stopped.
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Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body has thou prepared me: In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast no pleasure, Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.- HEBREWS 10:5-7 (KJV)
When the Lord Jesus Christ came to earth He said that God no longer wants sacrifices and offerings similar to what the Israelites had done. Remember that the Israelites sacrificed animals and offered them to God for different intentions. Those sacrifices are no longer what God requires from us because He had given the body of the Lord Jesus to be sacrificed.
When the Lord Jesus Christ came, He had something in Him which was to be sacrificed, and that was His body. His body was nailed on the cross as a sacrifice for our sins. This is the reason why we do not need to sacrifice animals anymore because the ultimate sacrifice had been rendered by the Lord Jesus Christ.
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By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. -HEBREWS 10:10 (KJV)
What the Lord Jesus Christ had done was a sufficient sacrifice. The offering of His body was once for all. But why do many pastors today teach people to sacrifice animals and, most especially, money? It is because it will profit them; it is because they have a great love for money.
If we want to offer sacrifices now, we have to see to it that our sacrifices are in accordance with the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.
ROMANS 12:1 (RSV) says,
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I appeal to you therefore, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.
This is the sacrifice taught to us by the Lord Jesus Christ. The verse tells us that we can present our bodies as a living sacrifice to God, which is our spiritual worship to Him. The question is, how can we present our bodies as a living sacrifice to God?
It says in ROMANS 6:13 (KJV),
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Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
To become a living sacrifice, we have to use ourselves as instruments of God’s righteousness. We need to be the instruments of God in doing good to other people. Just like what Job did.
JOB 29:15 (KJV) tells us,
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I was eyes to the blind, and feet was I to the lame.
Job used himself, his members or the parts of his body, to serve other people. He became an instrument of God’s righteousness. He became eyes to the blind and feet to the lame; meaning, he served the helpless and those in need. Job did good things to other people. In that way, he was able to sacrifice his own body as an offering of righteousness.
Therefore, in our dispensation, sacrifice is not only offering money and other material things as many pastors insist. According to the Scriptures, our body can be offered as a sacrifice to God by doing good and by showing kindness to others.
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While I read from a somewhat different text, I have to wholeheartedly agree with the conclusion you have come up with! We would all do well to remember this every day 
Goes to show there are many paths...
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Re: Our sacrificial body [Re: Forrester] 1
#26444681 - 01/21/20 11:21 AM (4 years, 27 days ago) |
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No matter what paths we currently are. GOD/UNIVERSE always directs our ways to the OLD PATH back to its roots.  
We would all really do well doin it. Glad to see yah on the same page with my daily bread. Shalom.
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Isn't the Eucharist supposed to be a sacrificial body of Christ?
Anyone can probably become Christ..and then use unleavened bread to transmit the idea of consummation..
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Re: Our sacrificial body *DELETED* [Re: BrendanFlock]
#26448045 - 01/23/20 11:48 AM (4 years, 24 days ago) |
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So what does sacrifice actually mean?
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BrendanFlock said: So what does sacrifice actually mean?

The Deed = US being driven by compassion and LOVE for thy fellow.
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Well sometimes you feel people sacrifice to make things better for themselves..in the long run..or make things better for other people..
So that type of sacrifice is based on devotion..which is positive in general..
I guess if magic is real..then sacrifices work for specific magical purposes as well..
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pacmanbreed said: In our present dispensation, can anyone still offer a sacrifice to God? How? And what should we offer?
In November I voluntarily laid down 50 hours of uninterrupted meditation, drug assisted, to completely run myself into the ground for the One On High.
What can you sacrifice?
Something of yourself.
A candle, some incense, a coin tossed in a wishing well, sacrificing part of your health.
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BrendanFlock said: Well sometimes you feel people sacrifice to make things better for themselves..in the long run..or make things better for other people..
So that type of sacrifice is based on devotion..which is positive in general..
I guess if magic is real..then sacrifices work for specific magical purposes as well..
A win win situation in for both thy fellow and self in the long run. It very magical indeed.
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Re: Our sacrificial body [Re: Asante]
#26453357 - 01/26/20 11:19 AM (4 years, 22 days ago) |
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Asante said:
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pacmanbreed said: In our present dispensation, can anyone still offer a sacrifice to God? How? And what should we offer?
In November I voluntarily laid down 50 hours of uninterrupted meditation, drug assisted, to completely run myself into the ground for the One On High.
What can you sacrifice?
Something of yourself.
A candle, some incense, a coin tossed in a wishing well, sacrificing part of your health.
That some serious 50 hours, Glad your fine.
Edited by pacmanbreed (02/13/22 03:30 PM)
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as i'm going to a church that dos'nt take donations, I don't know how truthfully I can answer this question, but for minimum happiness I hear $50.000 a year is minimum happiness, any more there will be complications and any less would still suck, my church puts out what they earn to native american charities once a year and such like like that while the pastor and family works a full time job, so I do believe churches do good with the money but there's always room for error.
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saintdextro said: but for minimum happiness I hear $50.000 a year is minimum happiness, any more there will be complications and any less would still suck
 I wonder if greater than $50.000, the complication might be an overwhelming flood of happiness. Pardon, it Thus sounds a fixed price membership for the right amount of happiness  Anyway its Good to hear it doesn't recklessly accept donations and does charitable works , which the majority(Churchianty) are very far from it.
Cause It really depends in our views of a church is? In my case it's mere US, it's plain WE, of a ONE BODY. Unfortunately Other consider & treat it as a proprietorship. Its very evident interms of corrupt leaders.
By that in this parts, we don't consider/call anyone pastors/reverend/priest etc along with their unique names. But rather a mere equal brothers, sisters in a congregation.
Its not a matter of donation/price/amount, but rather whom the source & the flow of it, for an untainted charitable works. Even the tithes(10%) fix amount donation practices must been abandoned long time ago (hebrew 7:12)(3 John, 1:7).
Thru experience, There are instances(most) that a penny is greater in its worth, than a thousands. (2 Corinthians, 9:7)(Mark 12:42-44).
Real Joy cannot be bought by a fixed/certain amount.
LOVE speed.
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pacmanbreed said: In our present dispensation, can anyone still offer a sacrifice to God? How? And what should we offer?
It is very evident today that many pastors ask their members to offer money and other material things for sacrifice. So it is but sensible to find out from the Bible if those are the rightful offerings and sacrifices that a Christian is required to offer God.
There are many sacrifices that can be read in the Bible, like the sacrifice of different kinds of animals. But it must be understood that when the Lord Jesus Christ came they were all stopped.
says in the scriptures
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Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body has thou prepared me: In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast no pleasure, Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.- HEBREWS 10:5-7 (KJV)
When the Lord Jesus Christ came to earth He said that God no longer wants sacrifices and offerings similar to what the Israelites had done. Remember that the Israelites sacrificed animals and offered them to God for different intentions. Those sacrifices are no longer what God requires from us because He had given the body of the Lord Jesus to be sacrificed.
When the Lord Jesus Christ came, He had something in Him which was to be sacrificed, and that was His body. His body was nailed on the cross as a sacrifice for our sins. This is the reason why we do not need to sacrifice animals anymore because the ultimate sacrifice had been rendered by the Lord Jesus Christ.
Quote:
By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. -HEBREWS 10:10 (KJV)
What the Lord Jesus Christ had done was a sufficient sacrifice. The offering of His body was once for all. But why do many pastors today teach people to sacrifice animals and, most especially, money? It is because it will profit them; it is because they have a great love for money.
If we want to offer sacrifices now, we have to see to it that our sacrifices are in accordance with the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.
ROMANS 12:1 (RSV) says,
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I appeal to you therefore, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.
This is the sacrifice taught to us by the Lord Jesus Christ. The verse tells us that we can present our bodies as a living sacrifice to God, which is our spiritual worship to Him. The question is, how can we present our bodies as a living sacrifice to God?
It says in ROMANS 6:13 (KJV),
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Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
To become a living sacrifice, we have to use ourselves as instruments of God’s righteousness. We need to be the instruments of God in doing good to other people.
First let me get out of the way, I have no doubt a great many churches are corrupt and take money from the congregation for their own profit. The Bible itself warns us of this sad reality. (The ancient Jewish religious authorities are routinely exposed for their corruption.... Even with Jesus' own innermost circle, 1 of the 12 Disciples, Judas Iscariot, has become corrupted by the love of money)
However, as far the body being a living sacrifice... (which is certainly true)
Is not money used to serve the human body? Why wouldn't a living sacrifice of your body include material wealth to otherwise increase bodily comfort?
Perhaps a better question is this...
Do you have a better idea of what to spend extra money on than the furtherance of the Gospel of Jesus Christ? In the long run, what is more important than that?
I'm not saying you have to start funneling all your extra money into a church, but consider where your heart is if you'd rather keep more money for your own personal desires. I'm addressing this to myself just as much as you. We should have a spirit of wanting to let it go, whether or not we've found the proper recipient.
I think oftentimes people forget the other side of the coin. Giving money is not only about helping others minister and preach God's Word.. it's about freeing your own heart from idols... It's about keeping your own self looking towards God and not the world... Spreading the glorious truth of Jesus Christ is like heaping up treasure in the heavenly Kingdom. By comparison, any treasure here in this fallen world is worthless.
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